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Sorry but connect the dots here. How does having an affair lead to any of those things, other than as a result of puritanical attitudes in society at large?
 

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Sorry but connect the dots here. How does having an affair lead to any of those things, other than as a result of puritanical attitudes in society at large?
Same old same old :). Man breaks his word and risks hurting someone he loves for a bit of sex. Can we count on him to not break his word and not risk hurting his country if someone offers him a bit of sex? Or a lot of sex? Or 40 virgins?

The sex is less important that the lack of honour and respect of commitments :). Unmarried men are allowed affairs unless the woman is married ;)
 

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I don't see how an affair is a national security risk. At all.
Besides the points I have already made - shall we say that it certainly goes to a lack of judgment and discretion. Which when one is the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, one of the President's senior advisers and in charge of worldwide intelligence assets is important
 

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Same old same old :). Man breaks his word and risks hurting someone he loves for a bit of sex. Can we count on him to not break his word and not risk hurting his country if someone offers him a bit of sex? Or a lot of sex? Or 40 virgins?

The sex is less important that the lack of honour and respect of commitments :). Unmarried men are allowed affairs unless the woman is married ;)
Excellent post.
 

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If you get the opportunity to spend time with Kyra it does not take much time to notice she is very and I mean very bright. Excellent business mind!!!
I enjoy having Kyra and other women post here. I really think the trashing on SPs who post as merely trolling for clients is uncalled for in this case.
 

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Same old same old :). Man breaks his word and risks hurting someone he loves for a bit of sex. Can we count on him to not break his word and not risk hurting his country if someone offers him a bit of sex? Or a lot of sex? Or 40 virgins?

The sex is less important that the lack of honour and respect of commitments :). Unmarried men are allowed affairs unless the woman is married ;)
Oh, give it a rest already. This is not a forum on the Good Housekeeping website.
 

mrsCALoki

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Oh, give it a rest already. This is not a forum on the Good Housekeeping website.
Married public figure has affair, people find out, married public figure no longer has job.

Gee sounds simple to me. Cheating = lack of trust.

You may not like it, you may thing cheating is ok. The majority does not agree. If they did cheaters would not be loosing their jobs when caught.

Reality is reality. Who gives a royal fuck if you do not "think it is right". It is what it is.
 

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Besides the points I have already made - shall we say that it certainly goes to a lack of judgment and discretion. Which when one is the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, one of the President's senior advisers and in charge of worldwide intelligence assets is important
How is it a lack of judgment? Sounds like some puritanical idea you have there.
 

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Anybody being considered for a top level security clearance position is scrutinized 5 ways to Sunday; if there are skeletons in your closet, its likely they have already been uncovered through the vetting process. Hopefully, your disclosure statement will match the results of the security check, otherwise you're out. You can be denied for an outstanding, undisclosed debt, or an undisclosed drinking problem or an undisclosed infidelity. There's no expectation that the candidate is a saint, everyone makes mistakes or has vices, but it comes down to are the mistakes or vices manageable, and is the candidiate forthright in his disclosure - qualified candidates for positions requiring high clearance generally aren't easy to come by, and these type of positions are generally very stress-inducing, so some form of outlet is expected, so very often the organization will work with the candidate to clear up any possible areas of concern.
"Sexual misconduct", like having an affair or using the services of a professional, is generally NOT a disqualifier for security clearance with full disclosure and a "passage of time without recurrence" clause.
It was Broadwells harrassment of another woman that triggered the FBI investigation that "revealed" the affair, the affair alone wasn't necessarily the thing that required the resignation if Petraeus had disclosed that when required to do so.

So, who's going to join me for a beer? Sundowner, any time after 10pm tonight.
 
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Aardvark154

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Ok folks I'm going out on a limb here, my money is on Fuji has never having held: a) a Canadian or NATO security clearance b) a Queen's Commission.
 

Aardvark154

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Anybody being considered for a top level security clearance position is scrutinized 5 ways to Sunday.
If I had been married to (or even dating) my ex-wife (a Russian National) at the time, my clearances would have been revoked. If I had been on TERB likewise.
 

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Same old same old :). Man breaks his word and risks hurting someone he loves for a bit of sex. Can we count on him to not break his word and not risk hurting his country if someone offers him a bit of sex? Or a lot of sex? Or 40 virgins?

The sex is less important that the lack of honour and respect of commitments :). Unmarried men are allowed affairs unless the woman is married ;)
that is a long winded way of saying what i said. your long winded way of saying what i said sounds better than saying what i said cuz i kept it short knowing fuji wouldn't read it or care about the logic behind it. you will get the person saying "this is an escort forum, that doesn't matter here" but the reality is that terb is not the way the world thinks. well said yo.
 

danmand

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Married public figure has affair, people find out, married public figure no longer has job.

Gee sounds simple to me. Cheating = lack of trust.

You may not like it, you may thing cheating is ok. The majority does not agree. If they did cheaters would not be loosing their jobs when caught.

Reality is reality. Who gives a royal fuck if you do not "think it is right". It is what it is.
It is the reality in puritan US only. In Europe, mistresses routinely show up at important men's funeral. I consider it a comedy, and I must add that I find your Ann Landers impersonation hillarious. The situation is, in case you do not know, that some women have a thing for powerful men.
 
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Maybe I've seen to many James bond and other spies movies, the fact he did this doesn't bother me at all, but the fact it got found out does, someone in his position should know how to keep secrets.
 

Aardvark154

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It is the reality in puritan US only. In Europe, mistresses routinely show up at important men's funeral.
Perhaps you meant to write "on the Continent?" In the past few year one of H.M.'s Ambassadors as well as a senior General Officer have both been shown the door after being caught "with their hand firmly stuck in the cookie jar."
 
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