Chief Saunders Resigns

Darts

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Chief Saunders resigns. Was already mentioned in passing in another thread but I thought he deserves his own thread.

He hinted about possibility of politics (like Bill Blair). Will not nominate a successor.
 
good. guy was useless. an affirmative action hire
made the city more dangerous by scrapping carding and tavis
now his master tory also must resign
good riddance
 
The guy also had a kidney transplant. He probably just wants to spend time with his family and enjoy life. Kidney transplants dont last forever.
 
I think you will see more policemen if they able too leaving.

I have a young friend who was taking courses with the goal of becoming a policeman. I've been trying to talk him out of it. I think this last week is making him question it. There is really no upside to being a policeman these days.
 
A Friend of mine was a cop in Toronto for 12 years and left the force 2 years ago.

His sentiment was that Saunders did nothing for them and wasn't well liked by the rank and file.

He also said that policing was an uphill battle against the gangs in the big city and that the stress was taking a toll on him.

He's happy he is out.......
 
chief saunders resigns. Was already mentioned in passing in another thread but i thought he deserves his own thread.

He hinted about possibility of politics (like bill blair). Will not nominate a successor.

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I may be wrong, but as soon as I saw this I figured that he is looking to follow his predecessor and move into politics. Is this a sign that the Liberals are planning an election? With the Conservatives in the middle of a lacklustre leadership campaign and the NDP in the irrelevant column, it would not be surprising...
 
Did he say why? He seems to be a nice guy, but I don't know details. I think the union didn't like him much. Who decides the next chief?
 
His contract was set to expire in April 2021 so he's leaving about 9 months early. I think Chief Saunders is a decent guy and I don't think he is disliked by the rank and file. I gave him respect for having his officers back in the smearing accusation regarding the girl who fell off the balcony a couple weeks back. But he oversaw a lot of negatives and displayed weak leadership at times. Under his watch we've seen spikes in shooting and violent crime 4 years running. His decision to shut down proactive measures to curb crime and gang violence to appease the bleeding hearts and his silence on the elimination of the school resource officer program really did not sit well with the membership.

Policing needs to be proactive, not reactive. And you can't blame just him - there's enough of it to go around. Starting at the top with Tory.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they choose a woman.

The Toronto Police Chief is a political appointment from Queen's Park so I doubt it will be a female or a minority for the successor. Doug Ford allowed Chief Saunders who was a Wynne appointment to stay around.
 
I don't see my fav occupation mentioned as an alternative to policing -- funeral directing! You get to wear nice clothes and meet interesting widows and daughters. Get to drive a limo too.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they choose a woman.

I think Stacey Clarke is at the Inspector Level. I'm not sure we want a long string of black chiefs. Maybe alternate between black, white and Asian.

Peter Sloly who was passed over in 2015 is now Ottawa police chief. Still not sure why he left Deloittes where he was probably making north of $400,000 to go back into policing.
 
Always better to walk out of your office than be carried out.

Guess the PR Dept will be looking for a suitable replacement.
Any guesses?
 
The Toronto Police Chief is a political appointment from Queen's Park so I doubt it will be a female or a minority for the successor. Doug Ford allowed Chief Saunders who was a Wynne appointment to stay around.

I think you`re wrong about that. The Toronto Police Services Board makes the decision who to hire for the position. Mayor Tory is a member of the board and I heard him say today that they had been going to hire a headhunter firm to assist and now they would have to speed up the process. No mention of Ford being involved.
 
I think you`re wrong about that. The Toronto Police Services Board makes the decision who to hire for the position. Mayor Tory is a member of the board and I heard him say today that they had been going to hire a headhunter firm to assist and now they would have to speed up the process. No mention of Ford being involved.

The Toronto Police Service Board is heavily influenced by Queens Park as are all of the Police Boards across Ontario. This was apparent in Julian Fantino being appointed police chief in London until the position in Toronto was ready and then he became the Toronto Police Chief. It is no coincidence that Bill Blair and Julian Fantino went on to Federal Politics, Blair to the Federal Liberals and Fantino to the Federal Conservatives, the same parties at the provincial level that appointed them Police Chiefs. Perhaps Mark Saunders is being courted by the Trudeau Liberals ?
 
Did he say why? He seems to be a nice guy, but I don't know details. I think the union didn't like him much. Who decides the next chief?


My theory is that he's now stuck between a rock and hard place. Being a black police chief, having to oversee a force that's is going to be totally paranoid now to as much as lay a finger on a black person, he was caught between a rock and a hard place. Either support your boys in blue, or BLM.
 
I was thinking Ron Taverner but he's 73 years old. Also, the liberal/NDP lefties don't like him because he would be too competent a police chief.