Chief Mark Saunders

[bestman007]

Like him. Think he'll keep it gangsta!!!

 

[red]

When Bill Blair was appointed chief he said:

"Won't waste scarce and expensive police resources hassling consenting adults engaged in sex behind closed doors." Wonder if Chief Saunders shares the same attitude.

Was that comment in reference to gays or prostitution?

 

[red]

Treat cops like the human beings they are and they will treat you like the decent human being you are.

That's true but they should treat everyone with respect and courtesy- even those who mouth off.

 

[Asclepius]

I had one cop tell me to plead guilty with explanation and the Justice of the Peace will most likely reduce the ticket by half and she did.

Another time my friend was caught by an undercover peeing against a tree outside the old CB. He said he couldn't use the CB washroom because bio-hazard. The cop understood and just gave him a warning and no ticket.

Treat cops like the human beings they are and they will treat you like the decent human being you are.

I agree. The cops I know are good people. When in “cop” mode, cops are trained to take control of any situation and will respond to even the slightest aggression with super aggression and are taught to interpret a little lip as attitude and attitude as aggression that needs to be controlled.

When caught in their control zone, it's like being caught in an undertow. Don't panic and fight it. Just swim with the current and slowly steer out of the stream to get to safety.

 

[red]

I agree. The cops I know are good people. When in “cop” mode, cops are trained to take control of any situation and will respond to even the slightest aggression with super aggression and are taught to interpret a little lip as attitude and attitude as aggression that needs to be controlled.

When caught in their control zone, it's like being caught in an undertow. Don't panic and fight it. Just swim with the current and slowly steer out of the stream to get to safety.

Do you not see how wrong this is. The public has to watch itself and make sure we don't give lip or what the officer perceives as lip to prevent us being subject to a police takedown and trumped up charges?

Why should we fear the police? You say the cops you know are good people but when in cop mode they are controlling freaks who respond with super aggression- how does that reconcile with them being good people?

 

[Asclepius]

Yes, but however wrong, it's the current reality, simply because it's so much easier and cheaper to train people to be military style robots than it is to train them how to carefully diffuse complex situations.

 

[red]

Yes, but however wrong, it's the current reality, simply because it's so much easier and cheaper to train people to be military style robots than it is to train them how to carefully diffuse complex situations.

Not really. But even if that's correct why on earth would we want to be controlled by military style robots?

When with your cop friends are you free to speak your mind or do you worry about giving them attitude?

 

[SkyRider]

The public has to watch itself and make sure we don't give lip

I treat cops with the same respect and courtesy as I do with any human being. It's amazing how people nicely respond when you are nice to them. For example, I was nice to a female sales clerk once and she gave me 5 extra batteries for free. Many other similar examples.

 

[SchlongConery]

Yes, nice that she stole from her employer for you!

 

[red]

I treat cops with the same respect and courtesy as I do with any human being. It's amazing how people nicely respond when you are nice to them. For example, I was nice to a female sales clerk once and she gave me 5 extra batteries for free. Many other similar examples.

That's great. And we should be polite to the police but we shouldn't do so out of fear.

 

[red]

Yes, nice that she stole from her employer for you!

Lmao

 

[SkyRider]

These are still very early days but I like what I see and hear from the new chief so far. He said being black is "fantastic". He is proud of his blackness (as he should be). No whining, no "woe is me", no blaming "the man", etc. He rose from street cop to chief on sheer merit. No doubt some in the black community and liberal lefties will call him an "Uncle Tom" but for a black man that comes with the territory ("black man's burden").

 

[jcpro]

These are still very early days but I like what I see and hear from the new chief so far. He said being black is "fantastic". He is proud of his blackness (as he should be). No whining, no "woe is me", no blaming "the man", etc. He rose from street cop to chief on sheer merit. No doubt some in the black community and liberal lefties will call him an "Uncle Tom" but for a black man that comes with the territory ("black man's burden").

If he doesn't stop carding. he is Uncle Tom. BTW, I'm really proud of my color, too. And the place of birth. What else can I be proud of that I had no control over whatsoever?

 

[nottyboi]

Sadly I think he is an Uncle Tom. He was the choice of the rank and file, and considering the deep cultural problems in the police force, he was the wrong choice. There is a small chance he was playing the game to get ahead and now will try and make a difference, (I hope) but unlikely and I don't really see ANY change on the horizon. Things will probably get worse.

 

[SkyRider]

First 3 days on the job and Chief Saunders is getting questions and criticism mainly on carding. Looks like few if anybody is concerned about violent crimes, only carding. We must live in the safest city in the world.

 

[Danolo]

Toronto Police won't get respect until they start acting respectable...I don't think the new chief will change much.

 

[red]

First 3 days on the job and Chief Saunders is getting questions and criticism mainly on carding. Looks like few if anybody is concerned about violent crimes, only carding. We must live in the safest city in the world.

We do and thanks to demographics crime is decreasing

 

[jcpro]

Well it's official. The new chief is not different from the old chief. Oh, well...

 

[Nickelodeon]

If he doesn't stop carding. he is Uncle Tom. BTW, I'm really proud of my color, too. And the place of birth. What else can I be proud of that I had no control over whatsoever?

Is your identity mainly made up of your skin colour and where you were born? I would say look forward to becoming what you accomplish in your life not where you came from.

I may have come from a poor immigrant background but it is not a source of pride or shame; it's where life started and you move on and grow up.

 

[Frankfooter]

Sadly I think he is an Uncle Tom. He was the choice of the rank and file, and considering the deep cultural problems in the police force, he was the wrong choice. There is a small chance he was playing the game to get ahead and now will try and make a difference, (I hope) but unlikely and I don't really see ANY change on the horizon. Things will probably get worse.

I agree.
Too bad for Toronto and race relations.