Cheating issue

[Cycleguy007]

LOL

And there is always Pusser's Rum

http://www.pussers.com/

I've actually had the pleasure of tasting Pusser's Rum... In the British Virgin Isl of Tortola... There is actually a Pub called Pusser's Outpost. We had lunch there while visiting the Island on a Caribbean cruise. Excellent jerk chicken sandwich and a Pussers Rum drink of course!

 

[papasmerf]

I've actually had the pleasure of tasting Pusser's Rum... In the British Virgin Isl of Tortola... There is actually a Pub called Pusser's Outpost. We had lunch there while visiting the Island on a Caribbean cruise. Excellent jerk chicken sandwich and a Pussers Rum drink of course!

On my list of places to go. I was introduced to the rum maybe 10 years ago and no question it is the Single Malt of rums. I like it in a snifter, neat and with a cigar..............Of course the cigar is optional.

 

[Cycleguy007]

On my list of places to go. I was introduced to the rum maybe 10 years ago and no question it is the Single Malt of rums. I like it in a snifter, neat and with a cigar..............Of course the cigar is optional.

I think that was one of our favourite day's on the cruise. Did some shopping in the morning, lunch and drinks at Pusser's and swim with the Dolphins in the afternoon. We had our kids with us, and they STILL talk about swimming with Poseidon! (That was the Dolphin's name...)

 

[fuji]

You really don't get it do you. It's her choice to come away with me. She is going away this weekend and if you think that she wants to fuck around behind my back well then you are not as intelligent as I gave you credit for earlier.

Go ahead, keep on trying to deny that women have an urge to cheat. See if you can convince yourself that you are so great your wife would never, ever be attracted to another man.

Just like you would never ever be attracted to another woman, other than those hotties down at the SC that jack you off.

Stifling myself? What the hell are you talking about? Are you just trying to get me going?

Nope. I'm assuming you are human like the rest of us. That means you have a deep instinctual desire to fuck as many women as you possibly can. You either accept that desire and act on it, or you stifle it.

You stifle. I act.

 

[fuji]

Is it possible that Fuji has banged Lawyerman's wife as one of his "civilian" conquests?

It is possible, but we don't know who each other are, so we will never know.... maybe she's the one with the list.

 

[bigtimedude]

Unfortunately i think Fuji is right, regardless of whether or not you think he is a jerk and a slimeball. I agree with his thoery Ive just decided to live in denial.

 

[papasmerf]

I think that was one of our favourite day's on the cruise. Did some shopping in the morning, lunch and drinks at Pusser's and swim with the Dolphins in the afternoon. We had our kids with us, and they STILL talk about swimming with Poseidon! (That was the Dolphin's name...)

Very cool

I have yet to do that but I have had a dolphin steak for dinner. Was quite good. No Pusser's with that dinner it was well south of the border.

 

[fuji]

The biologically optimal sexual strategy for a human female:
-- Get pregnant by the male with the best available genes
-- Raise the family with the male with the most resources

Women are hard-wired to cheat. They instinctually want to marry a rich man and then cheat on him with some young stud. For millions of years it's been their optimal reproductive strategy.

In other words--marry a rich guy like lawyerman, and then bang some hot muscular stud.

Men aren't much better, their optimal strategy:
-- Impregnate as many women as possible
-- Spend resources raising only your own offspring
-- Trick other men into spending their resources on your offspring

Men are hard-wired to jealously protect and guard their own families against cheating, all the while doing everything they damn well can to impregnate someone else's wife.

We are all born to cheat. This horrible conflict is built right into our genes by millions of years of natural selection.

These instincts manifest themselves in men as burning sexual desire for other people's wives, and outrageously painful hurt when yours cheats on you. In women they manifest as a strong desire to be a loving, devoted wife to a rich and stable man, coupled with a burning desire to get some on the side from a genetically gifted bad boy.

This is the way we are made. Either embrace it, because it's who you are, and love your conflict filled life--or try your damndest to suppress these emotions that define you.

People in "open" relationships are trying to suppress the jealousy. People in "old fashioned" relationships are trying to suppress the lust. I'm willing to fuck both their wives and jealously protecting my own family against interlopers makes me feel strong and successful.

 

[james t kirk]

Absolutely. I get satisfaction out of fucking multiple women on many levels, physical, emotional, even intellectual.

SP's are the least fulfilling in that there's no challenge, but they are a damn good physical experience. I like to put it this way: An SP is better than porn, and I enjoy porn, so why wouldn't I enjoy an SP? Like porn you are buying physical, biological satisfaction wrapped up in a fantasy.

Next most satisfying is a mistress situation where you build up an ongoing relationship with a single individual. You're still paying, so it's still not much of a challenge, but they're pickier about their patron and there are additional emotional levels and exchanges that happen.

Most satisfying of course is banging a civilian woman, that brings all of it together--a physical experience, the emotional interchange, and of course, the satisfaction of knowing that you are her choice for that moment. The downside of course is that it's much harder--I can bang an SP any moment I feel like it, whereas I generally bang civilian women on their schedule rather than mine--and much less often than I can bang an SP.

As for my wife--other than the most superficial details I won't discuss her with you, my relationship with her is sacred and I refuse to consider her in relation to anybody else. She's not the top of a list, she's on a different plane.

I wouldn't give up any of it, nor would I give up having a wife. If my wife does find out and leave me I will be devestated for awhile, I imagine my life will be hell for a good six months.

Sooner or later, though, I will just go get myself another wife, and maybe better than the present one--probably younger.


You're an even bigger hypocrit than I am. So what, an SC is not cheating because she gets you off by rubbing your cock with her knee and ass, rather than her pussy or mouth?

Give me a big fucking break.

I enjoy SC's too, and MPA's, and I consider it all cheating.

I was giving you some latitude in your posts right up until you made the statement above.

Now, I just figure that it would serve a sanctimonious prick like you to get caught by your wife and her to leave you.

 

[james t kirk]

Laugh out goddamn fucking loud.

Here we have a couple of anonymous guys on a hooker board posting under aliases, bragging about how hot, attractive, intelligent and faithful their wives are.

Brilliant post.

I have to agree.

 

[fuji]

I was giving you some latitude in your posts right up until you made the statement above.

Now, I just figure that it would serve a sanctimonious prick like you to get caught by your wife and her to leave you.

I bet you'd like that. Too bad life ain't fair.

 

[richaceg]

Can't vouch for Lawyerman's SO... But I can assure you my wife and Ang's SO would make a great DUO pairing!

i'll wait for the review when that happens CG.

 

[CheekyChick]

Don't know your SO but most women are ready to drop their panties whenever a "brad pitt" is around.

George Clooney, thanks.

 

[johnhenrygalt]

Women are hard-wired to cheat. They instinctually want to marry a rich man and then cheat on him with some young stud. For millions of years it's been their optimal reproductive strategy.

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Men are hard-wired to jealously protect and guard their own families against cheating, all the while doing everything they damn well can to impregnate someone else's wife.

Also keep in mind that most women want their husband/boyfriend to be jealous. Even if you are running around cheating and even if she knows or suspects it, and even in an open or semi-open relationship, a typical woman will lose respect for the guy who doesn't demonstrate some jealousy.

This is the way we are made. Either embrace it, because it's who you are, and love your conflict filled life--or try your damndest to suppress these emotions that define you.

Sure, but suppressing and/or redirecting animal instincts is what civilization is all about. Many of us suppress on a daily basis the urge to inflict bodily harm on people who piss us off. Many of us suppress the urge to hit on the hot secretary in the office.

 

[fuji]

Sure, but suppressing and/or redirecting animal instincts is what civilization is all about. Many of us suppress on a daily basis the urge to inflict bodily harm on people who piss us off. Many of us suppress the urge to hit on the hot secretary in the office.

All I'm saying is you are confronted with this choice: hypocrisy or self-denial. You can't have it both ways.

I respect that some people choose to stifle themselves. Just as some people think abstinence is a credible alternative to teen sex, there are some people who think that fidelity is a credible alternative to extra-marital sex. Some people probably even manage to pull it off.

My biggest problem is with people who cheat, and then lie to themselves about cheating. They go to a SC and have orgasms with hot women and then lie to themselves and say it isn't cheating becuase their dick didn't penetrate anybody. Give me a huge fucking break.

A different way to stifle yourself is to styfle your jealousy, and try and accept cheating by your partner. This is just as hard, if not harder, than stifling your desire to cheat. It's a viable choice too though for people who can manage it--open relationships. Another form of self-denial.

Nevertheless stifling, abstinence, etc., are viable choices and should be respected.

I am happy with my choice to be hypocritical about it.

 

[johnhenrygalt]

My biggest problem is with people who cheat, and then lie to themselves about cheating. They go to a SC and have orgasms with hot women and then lie to themselves and say it isn't cheating becuase their dick didn't penetrate anybody. Give me a huge fucking break.

Why is that a problem? It's self delusion, but most of us lie to ourselves regularly just to keep our sanity. You lie to your wife to avoid self-denial; these guys lie to themselves to make the hypocrisy more palatable.

Most couples who are planning to marry don't get into a detailed negotiation as to what constitutes "cheating". Most women in my experience would get pissed if their husbands are getting turned on by other women or are "checking out" other women. It won't be a cause for divorce or breakup, but you'll be in the doghouse for a while. Most guys however, will not accept such a narrow view of fidelity, but to keep the peace, will only let their eyes wander in the absence of their wives. Is this therefore "cheating" since the wife doesn't approve of it? Other guys draw the line at going to SCs, but not getting dances. Other guys think all is OK if they don't orgasm. Others are OK if they keep their pants on. Others are OK with oral. Others are OK with full sex as long as a condom is used. "Cheating" cannot simply be anything you won't tell your wife - most guys won't tell their wives "Wow the new receptionist we hired is so hot, she was wearing this tight sexy miniskirt today, I got wood just looking at her" - so are these guys "cheating"?

 

[Danolo]

In my opinion, we are hard wired to have multiple sex partners.

Society and religious standards (restrictions) keep us from doing so without guilt.

I think Fuji is right and his apparent lack of guilt shows his adaptation to those standards. Guilt is a complete waste of energy.

I cheat, my wife does not. That's the way I am and that's the way she is...
So what? I try my best to avoid having her find out, mostly out of respect for how she would feel.

If she were to find out, I would feel bad for a short time, but we'd both soon adapt to that and carry on with our lives. Guilt is a complete waste of energy.


But I will never stop being a hobbyist.

 

[fuji]

You lie to your wife to avoid self-denial; these guys lie to themselves to make the hypocrisy more palatable.

Fair enough. I guess my problem is with guys who do this and then turn around and call me a hypocrit, like several on this thread.

At least I'm true to SOMEONE--myself--they're not true to anyone.

...Is this therefore "cheating" since the wife doesn't approve of it?

In my view? Absolutely yes. It is just another element in the spectrum of the instinctual conflict between men and women in sexual relationships.

My view is there is no real way to avoid cheating, no real way to avoid the conflict, so you might as well learn to enjoy and love living a life in which sexual conflict is an inherent part of all sexual relationships.

I enjoy cheating.

"Cheating" cannot simply be anything you won't tell your wife - most guys won't tell their wives "Wow the new receptionist we hired is so hot, she was wearing this tight sexy miniskirt today, I got wood just looking at her" - so are these guys "cheating"?

Yes it can be. My view is wholly consistent here: All that behavior is cheating, and all cheating is healthy and normal.

Also healthy and normal is to take steps to repress cheating by your partner. The resulting conflict, games, etc., is something I love about life.

 

[james t kirk]

See I'm different.

I get off on hot promiscuous women. I encourage my GFs to have sex with other men either in front of me, or when I'm not there (just tell me about it).

The cuckhold lifestyle I suppose, except I fuck other women. (See my posts on my swinger's club experiences - if you want to fuck another guy's wife, he gets to fuck yours.)

I figure all women cheat anyway at one time or another (they do) so why not accept it and get something out of it. By finding it sexually exciting and encouraging them to cheat, it removes the drama from my life and keeps it very simple.

If she likes the other guy better and leaves me for him - so be it. There's other women around. (But I've been told by more than 1 GF that I'm far above average in the sex department so I'm not worried.)