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Of course that's the lesson you would take from this. How about doing the job without kneeling on a guy until long after he stops breathing?
TPS wouldn't waste valuable resources on a $20 non-violent crime. Surprised that Minneapolis dispatched 4 officers to the scene. For what propose? Even if Floyd complied peacefully to jail, a liberal judge would have released him anyway.
 

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Money in the family does give a huge safety factor. I casually know a couple people in their late 30's who are still living on and freely spending parents money. Meanwhile for racialized poor people, they have very little room for error (or even bad luck).
I couldnt agree more. I do question how responsible of a parent was raising their children when at age 30 they are still sucking off their parents tits.

imo poverty has nothing to do with race(statistically they are races with higher levels of poverty,). funny story. one of my former coworkers who is black lived in toronto housing in a extremely crime dense area. he had many friends of other ethnicities who live in housing with him. that was the life he knew and he knew no other way to live. it wasnt till he moved out to the sticks in coburg he noticed that he could like another life. he also realized that making the decisions his mom made by having kids out of wed lock that she couldnt afford was a terrible idea. he chose to wait tilll he was above 18 and married to have kids.

he also mentioned that white people taught their children differently than black people. he called he called it learning from the white people hand book. another black friend who did not come from poverty because his parents chose to not have children out of wedlock and only what they could afford.

you can say race plays a factor in poverty but how do you explain the statistical success of asians and other non black races who are not poor.
 
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you can say race plays a factor in poverty but how do you explain the statistical success of asians and other non black races who are not poor.
The reason race plays a role is because people in power tend to be of one skin colour and whether out of a natural preference to be around people they are used to or because of more overt racist views make it harder for racial minorities to get the opportunity. This happens with businesses run by people of other ethnicities but in this country, white men generally hold the keys to the kingdom. And societal stereotypes about race aren't the same for every culture so of course their treatment is different. But in case you missed it, there has been plenty of anti-Asian racism.

Sure is a more reasonable explanation that your story about white and black parents teaching their kids differently.


p.s. I was raised in very poor, multicultural places. I have known plenty of people who were at least as smart and hard working as me but I know that I had benefits that many of them didn't in the way that teachers and employers treated them. To fit in when meeting with the Granit Club types, all I need to do is speak like them. Numerous friends of mine didn't have that option.
 

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I couldnt agree more. I do question how responsible of a parent was raising their children when at age 30 they are still sucking off their parents tits.

imo poverty has nothing to do with race(statistically they are races with higher levels of poverty,). funny story. one of my former coworkers who is black lived in toronto housing in a extremely crime dense area. he had many friends of other ethnicities who live in housing with him. that was the life he knew and he knew no other way to live. it wasnt till he moved out to the sticks in coburg he noticed that he could like another life. he also realized that making the decisions his mom made by having kids out of wed lock that she couldnt afford was a terrible idea. he chose to wait tilll he was above 18 and married to have kids.

he also mentioned that white people taught their children differently than black people. he called he called it learning from the white people hand book. another black friend who did not come from poverty because his parents chose to not have children out of wedlock and only what they could afford.

you can say race plays a factor in poverty but how do you explain the statistical success of asians and other non black races who are not poor.
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The reason race plays a role is because people in power tend to be of one skin colour and whether out of a natural preference to be around people they are used to or because of more overt racist views make it harder for racial minorities to get the opportunity. This happens with businesses run by people of other ethnicities but in this country, white men generally hold the keys to the kingdom. And societal stereotypes about race aren't the same for every culture so of course their treatment is different. But in case you missed it, there has been plenty of anti-Asian racism.

Sure is a more reasonable explanation that your story about white and black parents teaching their kids differently.


p.s. I was raised in very poor, multicultural places. I have known plenty of people who were at least as smart and hard working as me but I know that I had benefits that many of them didn't in the way that teachers and employers treated them. To fit in when meeting with the Granit Club types, all I need to do is speak like them. Numerous friends of mine didn't have that option.
I do agree that racism(the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another) is prevalent in society; however, I would not say its the predominate factor.

I dont believe in the power theory. I do believe in own group preference which I dont believe is about racism. its about safety or the feeling of safety or commonness. hence why there are pockets of people(chinatown, little jamaica, greektown, religious beliefs, etc) own group preference isnt racism since biologically our lizard portion of our brain is wired for safety and safety in numbers in a group works.

if an all black company has a preference to hire only blacks this would not be considered racist. I dont think that black employers think that white people are inferior but perhaps it has to do with wanting to be a only black company.

there is also laws for discrimination, hiring quotas(enrolment quotas in schools which discriminate against those who have higher scores but enroll those with lower scores eg. asians being denied access to schools versus black persons). I believe that the political influence by typically old white men to curb discrimination is racism.

yes societal(depending on which society and country) is different, but it isnt just a white thing. its across the board. this group shits on that group. hell it happens with engisg canadians shitting on the french canadians.

sure there has been an asian backlash in light of covid but I would consider it scapegoating. unless we know the context of the individual we cannot fully understand if they are racisr, attempting to scapegoat. making comment that are known to inflame and outrage(which is extremely effective).

I understand your view points and have my own view points that are anecdotal as well. I try not to look at the anecdotal evidence and more data, facts, stats. evidence, etc and from what I have learned over the years aside from feelings(which from my point of view have become more important) it doesnt add up to me. as I seen it racism has shrunk year over year with the passing of each generation. generations and views die off( im a huge fan of this). the media escalate race and other hot topics since it needs to make money and feed the machine.

its a hot topic, and one that wont be solved over an escort review board. I respect your point of view since I found your post to be respectful. I guess just differing opinions.
 
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I dont believe in the power theory. I do believe in own group preference which I dont believe is about racism. its about safety or the feeling of safety or commonness. hence why there are pockets of people(chinatown, little jamaica, greektown, religious beliefs, etc) own group preference isnt racism since biologically our lizard portion of our brain is wired for safety and safety in numbers in a group works
Sir, you are a brave man for saying this. Just be aware you are going to be in a world of pain (falsely accused of racism) from the lefties for being honest.
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I do agree that racism(the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another) is prevalent in society; however, I would not say its the predominate factor.

I dont believe in the power theory. I do believe in own group preference which I dont believe is about racism. its about safety or the feeling of safety or commonness. hence why there are pockets of people(chinatown, little jamaica, greektown, religious beliefs, etc) own group preference isnt racism since biologically our lizard portion of our brain is wired for safety and safety in numbers in a group works.

if an all black company has a preference to hire only blacks this would not be considered racist. I dont think that black employers think that white people are inferior but perhaps it has to do with wanting to be a only black company.
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Exactly. Even outside of overt racist views, white upper-middle class people are more likely to hire white upper/middle class people. In THIS country at least white people are the decision makers in a significant percentage of corporations so it is harder for minorities to get ahead in the corporate world. If I were in Shanghai or Osaka, I would be disadvantaged but last I checked, the discussion was about the US (and Canada?).

Regardless of the intent, the opportunities for minorities is less and the current stereotypes of black people are more negative than many other ethnic groups.
 

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3 of the 4 male executives in the top row look East Indian/Arab/Muslim. Maybe talent counts more than color.
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...and maybe it's affirmative action. That's the problem with the politics of race, creed and religion-you never know and the social pressure hides, equally, the racists, the patronizing bastards and the good people. We must return the the ideals espoused by Dr. King- a color blind society is the only answer because what is being done right now only leads to(it's actually here already) tribalism, hate, division and mistrust.
 

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I couldnt agree more. I do question how responsible of a parent was raising their children when at age 30 they are still sucking off their parents tits.

imo poverty has nothing to do with race(statistically they are races with higher levels of poverty,). funny story. one of my former coworkers who is black lived in toronto housing in a extremely crime dense area. he had many friends of other ethnicities who live in housing with him. that was the life he knew and he knew no other way to live. it wasnt till he moved out to the sticks in coburg he noticed that he could like another life. he also realized that making the decisions his mom made by having kids out of wed lock that she couldnt afford was a terrible idea. he chose to wait tilll he was above 18 and married to have kids.

he also mentioned that white people taught their children differently than black people. he called he called it learning from the white people hand book. another black friend who did not come from poverty because his parents chose to not have children out of wedlock and only what they could afford.

you can say race plays a factor in poverty but how do you explain the statistical success of asians and other non black races who are not poor.
I don't agree with your claim that poverty has nothing to do with race. I have seen first hand how people of minority races are automatically starting off on a negative footing. Children out of wedlock had zero to do with it. Poverty is poverty. If you earn less than you can afford to keep your family safe and secure even if you're married, you're screwed a lot of times if you're a minority.

Things are infinitely better here in Canada than in the U.S. though. Horror stories are all over the place there. But it still exists here where higher education from some places are given more weight than other due to "where" the country is. Hint....usually your degree is ignored or disregarded the more pigment you have.

It's a bit like that family guy meme where the stop Peter and compare his skin colour to a a palet.
 

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Exactly. Even outside of overt racist views, white upper-middle class people are more likely to hire white upper/middle class people. In THIS country at least white people are the decision makers in a significant percentage of corporations so it is harder for minorities to get ahead in the corporate world. If I were in Shanghai or Osaka, I would be disadvantaged but last I checked, the discussion was about the US (and Canada?).

Regardless of the intent, the opportunities for minorities is less and the current stereotypes of black people are more negative than many other ethnic groups.
I believe that its not just one thing. for example visible minorities make up only approximately one quarter of the population.. if we continue to analyze this further and look at the demographics for post secondary non white students how many where in enrolled compared to whites. what did they major in, etc... this would correlate to the low number of non whites in positions. racism or own group preference plays a part but an insignificant part when you look at the many other variables.

for example in the stem field is highly disproportionately male driven field with a small percentage of women. women tend not to want to work in stem fields but in social, helping and person centred employment.

my point is there are multi variable reasons why people are where they are. saying its just one thing is an easy answer to a question that is way more complicated than that. its not just one thing but many things. people make choices and choices reflect where they are at and their children.
 

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I don't agree with your claim that poverty has nothing to do with race. I have seen first hand how people of minority races are automatically starting off on a negative footing. Children out of wedlock had zero to do with it. Poverty is poverty. If you earn less than you can afford to keep your family safe and secure even if you're married, you're screwed a lot of times if you're a minority.

Things are infinitely better here in Canada than in the U.S. though. Horror stories are all over the place there. But it still exists here where higher education from some places are given more weight than other due to "where" the country is. Hint....usually your degree is ignored or disregarded the more pigment you have.

It's a bit like that family guy meme where the stop Peter and compare his skin colour to a a palet.
" If you earn less than you can afford to keep your family safe and secure even if you're married"

they made a choice to have a family they could not afford to have. if people are scraping by barely able to afford paying their for their own needs its completely irresponsible of them to have children.

statistically people are less apt to live in poverty if they complete high school and wait to be married before having children.
 

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I agree that someone with wealth will have more opportunities; however, people who have disadvantages can change their lives despite being dealt certain cards. I have seen it many times in many different scenarios where people have overcome. granted its not everyone, nor could I guess a percentage of those who overcome what they have been dealt.

not all people who work hard will achieve wealth. it requires so much more than just working hard. being financially intelligent, living below your means, not living in excess, making responsible choices, getting married before you have kids, picking a suitable partner, having a business plan, etc.

the pareto distribution illustrates this point. there will always be inequity among humans. there will always be the poor(unless its star trek), the middle class, wealthy and everything in between.

wealth distribution has also changed over history as it was held by less people in the world. now its distributed over more people.
Disadvantaged can prosper, with luck. One in a hundred? One in a thousand? If you start out with money and privilege your odds are a lot better...
 

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for example in the stem field is highly disproportionately male driven field with a small percentage of women. women tend not to want to work in stem fields but in social, helping and person centred employment.
I've attended 3 "tier 1" universities. It is not unusual to see male Asian majority STEM students in class.
 
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