Charas Hit....with intent?

[Malibook]

The more I see the replays, the more I say it was dirty or at least reckless.
Chara makes initial contact with his arm down low and he could have easily kept it there and taken P out of the play but he lifts his arm up and out to drive P up and out.
Even if there was glass all along there, P's face would have got pushed into it quite hard and he still could have been hurt by the glass and/or a divider, although obviously not nearly as bad.
At the moment of impact, Chara's hand was right on P's head maximizing the damage.
http://www.torontogolfnuts.com/showthread.php?t=73619&page=3

It was an illegal play that resulted in a very serious injury.
No intent should still be a couple of games.

 

[splooge]

Chara should be banned! Police should investigate! Max should sue Chara, Claude Julien, Boston Bruins and the NHL. Ok, maybe that's a stretch but hockey isn't fun to watch anymore.

What is interesting, is that Julien just had a time-out 15 seconds before this incident!

 

[Kilgore Trout]

They should'nt have exposed hard edges like that at rinks and if they have to it should be covered in 8 inches of foam padding like the bottom of football goalposts.

 

[2canchew]

I was told that Sportsnet ran the hit in low motion and you could see Chara looking up just before he shoved Pacioretty, talk about opportunity.
It's human nature, when you get pissed off at a player in a contact sport, that your going to look for a opportunity for payback and when it comes you take full advantage of it and when you do you wiil have enough time to work on your Academy Award speach, when you get interviewd, so hopefully you won't get punished and you've gotten what you wanted........ REVENGE.
I'm just saying.

 

[2canchew]

FANTASTIC, well said guyroch, however there is one thing we have to remember, this type of hockey stems from guys who aren't goal scorers, but fighters. Please let me explain. When I was a kid the players took hard hits, went to the bench and wondered what the hell just hit them ( Tim Horton, Pat Quinn, to name a few ) and noboby came to your defence, you took it like a man. Then came the enforcer, the guy signed because he could fight, intinmidate and if he scored it was a bonues ( Bob Probert, Dave Simanko ( sp ) Tie Domi ). then came the hard hitting, rough player who you new, when your going for that puck and you look over your shoulder,your going to find him barreling in on you, you know your going to pay a price, and they could score ( Wendle Clark, Rick Tocchet ). Now you have what we are seeing now, players, instead of seperating the player from the puck, they are trying to seperate the player from there uniforms and god help the player who gives a CLEAN LEGAL hit, he gets jump because the other teams players didn't like the hit, bullshit, be like the players of old, take the hit, go to the bench and suck it up buttercup, be a man, and while this evalution of hockey continues, who is watching this? our kids, who want to be NHL players and coaches, who want to coach in the NHL!
I'm jusy saying

 

[Questor]

Quebec prosecutor asks police to investigate Chara hit

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...tor-asks-police-to-investigate-chara-hit?bn=1

NHL could lose Air Canada sponsorship over headshots

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/951618--nhl-could-lose-air-canada-sponsorship-over-headshots

The fact that the police are investigating the incident and that Air Canada are threatening to withdraw sponsorship is very positive.

 

[richaceg]

every hit is intentional, but i don't think he intentionally want to hit him in that specific spot. wrong place

 

[fmahovalich]

Intent is ONE thing....

Was he reckless?? Is another!!

I think he was.

For a long time I have been tired of guys running a player LONG AFTER they have dumped or passed a puck. Finishing a check its called.

THAT NEEDS TO BE ELIMINATED..as it borders often on INTERFERENCE!!

 

[richaceg]

i've seen worst hits than what chara gave. it wasn't the cleanest of shots but if Pacioretty never got hurt and it was just the glass. I'm pretty sure you'd hear some ooohhss! & aahhss.

 

[Questor]

This is the clearest photo I have seen of the incident. For me, the videos are not that clear, even in slow motion. Chara's hand is up and pushing Pacioretty's head into the stanchion.

Okay, it happened in a split second. It can be argued that he intended to push him over the boards, just as it can be argued that he intended to take his head off. It was dangerous, reckless, and negligent. Minimum 25 games, regular season and playoffs. I hope the authorities press charges - assault. And I hope Pacioretty brings a civil suit against Chara.

Maybe with Air Canada and the police getting involved, the NHL will begin to take the safety of its athletes seriously.

http://twitpic.com/47s8ub

 

[Ironhead]

I know what to do.





Zdeno Chara, born March 18, 1977 in (then)Trencin Czechoslovakia.
You will report to the Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada on Saturday March 19, 2011 at 11:00 AM where you will be prepared for execution at 12:00 noon.

This by the order of the Province of Quebec.








I am sure the Quebec judicial system and Air Canada would just as upset if it were the other way around and it was a Bruin hurt and a key Montreal player facing the 20 - 30 game suspension.

I find myself in a difficult situation. Not wanting to see another player injured, but knowing it will happen.
I would absolutely love to see the reaction by all the big mouths both in Quebec and the sports media if next week PK Subban hits Alex Ovechkin and OV falls, hits his head and is concussed, on an arguably legal/illegal play.

 

[kirmit129]

LOL


I ask 'what about Pacioretty ?' Does he not have to be aware of where he is ?

No. Pacioretty was the receiver. If you are standing on the sidewalk near the street and I push you on to the street and you get hit by a car, would you accept: "Well you should have been aware of where you were."? Pacioretty did not skate into the post. He was directed into it. Had he skated into the post, then yes he should have been aware of where he was.

 

[wigglee]

fact: if it had been ovechkin or a leaf player who had his carreer ended like this the reaction in toronto would be 180 degrees different.

 

[smuddan]

You got that right ... Imagine if a stupid act ended Luke Schenn's career ...

This is not a rational argument. We are human and naturally our opinions would always be tilted if the issue involves oneself or his loved ones; but if you want to find solution to a problem, you must first remove yourself from the emotions to think logically.

 

[smuddan]

Don't get me wrong ... My observation just came to me ... This should be a wake up call ... MLSE should go downstaris tonight and don't wait for the NHL and put padding on those areas ... Why not fix your work enviorment and so you don't lose Schenn or any other Leaf to a act like this ..

That would be a very smart thing to do. A condition may not be dangerous in one workplace but an extremely dangerous one in another type of work environment.

Players know that that particular area in the rink is where you can get hurt badly so should NHL's head office. Unfortunately it's one of those dangerous situations that the League would not do anything about it until a serious injury or death occurred. It was the same situation about the netting around the rink, they knew about the possibility but didn't do anything until a young girl was killed by a flying puck.

 

[Dawgger]

Where is the players association in this? This is a serious problem and I'm not hearing much if anything from them. They should be screaming about unsafe working conditions.!) Get those things fixed and 2) put an end to some of the dangerous acts.

 

[big dogie]

I don't see the argument that the hit is fine or part of the game, NO RESPECT was given and is often void in the game now. I know if anyone did something like that to me they would feel my wrath! The act was sub human.

b d

 

[Ironhead]

I don't see the argument that the hit is fine or part of the game, NO RESPECT was given and is often void in the game now. I know if anyone did something like that to me they would feel my wrath! The act was sub human.

b d

LOL, whatever.



OK. From now on the D have to let a player by when near the boards.

In fact why not take hitting right out of the game ?



You want to use Schenn ? What if Schenn is the next D to nail a guy and gets charged in whatever jurisdiction they are in at the time.

 

[Ironhead]

No. Pacioretty was the receiver. If you are standing on the sidewalk near the street and I push you on to the street and you get hit by a car, would you accept: "Well you should have been aware of where you were."? Pacioretty did not skate into the post. He was directed into it. Had he skated into the post, then yes he should have been aware of where he was.

God I love these 'Bob McCown' idiot arguments.


I do not accept that something even remotely like that is commonplace in everyday society.



If you and I are playing hockey and you high stick me and cut me for a few stitches, I accept that.
The difference is it is apart of the game, even though there are rules to govern it, it still tends to happen.



Again two examples.

1. We are two players in a game.
I slash you.
I get 2 minutes.
It is apart of the game. We both accept that when we decide to play hockey.


2. We are on the street.
Two private citizens going about their business.
You are in my way and I happen to have a stick with me so I 'slash' you with it.
That is assault on me.

 

[splooge]

Consider that the hit itself was an interference call- That alone should make it suspendible. Refs saw it as dirty.