Couldn't find a single review of any of your encounters with SP's that you talk about, how about posting about some of your quality encounters.
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Couldn't find a single review of any of your encounters with SP's that you talk about, how about posting about some of your quality encounters.
I would never give my real name , occupation or any real social media information. Stick to reputable agencies. At the very least if the session goes badly through no fault of your owm, the good ones usually make it right where as the indy will just brush it off as YMMV.
I used to enjoy SPs back in the mid 90s when I was in Uni & here is what I have noted upon my return 2 years ago.
1. You see what you get - Back in the day, all you had to go by is what the SP had in her Eye or NOW! tabloids, the Yellow Pages? Forget it. If you truly wanted to see what yo were getting you had to drive around Church & Carlton, pressed my luck a few times, but not for the faint hearted.
2. BBBJ, DFK, LK - Not an option in the 90s, I was shocked when I got back to hobbying and I lay on the bed and the SP started the BBBJ.
3. SPs in the 90s where a lot more feminine - SP in the 90s had a lot more femininity, even though SPs today are generally leaner, prettier and more dolled up, they dont have the same feminine grace that SPs back then had. With the exception of the street walkers, they were like the majority of SPs of today.
4. Price - back in the mid 90s prices were about $100-120 for hh and about $200 for an hour. Considering inflation, SPs were making a lot more back then, keep in mind though law enforcement was a lot more aggresive back then as well.
5. Logistics - Meeting up was a pain in the ass, you would call from one payphone and if you got through, you were directed to go to another payphone and sometimes you had to keep trying from that payphone/leave your pager # and reconnect.
In closing, I would trade it all for the mid 90s for the simple fact the SPs of the 90s had genuine femininity, that is how much I personally truly value femininity.
1. You see what you get - Back in the day, all you had to go by is what the SP had in her Eye or NOW! tabloids, the Yellow Pages? Forget it. If you truly wanted to see what yo were getting you had to drive around Church & Carlton, pressed my luck a few times, but not for the faint hearted.
2. BBBJ, DFK, LK - Not an option in the 90s, I was shocked when I got back to hobbying and I lay on the bed and the SP started the BBBJ.
3. SPs in the 90s where a lot more feminine - SP in the 90s had a lot more femininity, even though SPs today are generally leaner, prettier and more dolled up, they dont have the same feminine grace that SPs back then had. With the exception of the street walkers, they were like the majority of SPs of today.
4. Price - back in the mid 90s prices were about $100-120 for hh and about $200 for an hour. Considering inflation, SPs were making a lot more back then, keep in mind though law enforcement was a lot more aggresive back then as well.
5. Logistics - Meeting up was a pain in the ass, you would call from one payphone and if you got through, you were directed to go to another payphone and sometimes you had to keep trying from that payphone/leave your pager # and reconnect.
In closing, I would trade it all for the mid 90s for the simple fact the SPs of the 90s had genuine femininity, that is how much I personally truly value femininity.
I do love how guys here without even mentioning a name of a lady think that if a session goes wrong it has to be the guys fault. It's as if they think every lady in this biz is 100% professional all the time and they never make a single mistake.
Get used to it. They're part of the small-minded 'well, that's never happened to me, so it must not be true' band of idiots.
I've had SPs from a certain agency (won't name who), where they heard I had a nice place and was a nice guy. And there was more detail than that, which only someone whose visited my place would know.
So as for privacy, some SPs are no better. Some probably all share stories which each other about which places are good and bad.
No problem really since I got brownie points, so I took it as a complement.
Also, another anti-privacy thing they do (which I don't really care, but it happens), is that agencies claim they don't keep your address and info. That's BS. They track your info in some kind of database.... address, phone number, probably a bunch of bullet pts etc..... There have been times the agency phone person would bring up my address (based on the phone number they see me calling from), even though I didn't even say my address yet. And it's a cell phone number. So it's not like they are quickly googling my number and see a yellowpages.ca listing for my number. I've googled my number and nothing comes up. And I doubt they have photographic memory from 4 months ago....... "Ok great..... and you're still at XXXXXXX?".
Again, not a big deal as I don't think anything bad will come of it. And I treat all SPs nice with a clean place. But for any indie or agency that claims "we don't keep any personal info"...... take that with a grain of salt. You never know who is tracking it and who isn't.
As for an SP asking for detailed info on your personal info, employer, job title etc.... avoid at all costs.
I definitely think many providers feel entitled now. I post in the adult section looking for semi-pro's and it's totally different than it was 5 years ago. I used to post and would get a bunch of responses with pics of females wanting to provide the service because I guess they understood they would be making more one hour, then what many people in a day. Now I post an ad, and they want pics of me, asking me a million questions. Pics of me??? So I gotta pay but you also have to be okay with how I look? I'm paying you because I probably can't score a female as hot as you if I don't pay...lol.
Thanks to internet and certain websites, the market has become totally saturated on both sides. Girls who want to make some quick money, can simply start with almost zero over head and within a day. Take a few pics with your phone, post for very minimal money and voila! Your now an SP. The john's can also post way more easy and with email and smart phones, it so much easier to communicate with SP's. You don't have to be that creepy guy anymore driving down Jarvis, or sneaking around on phones so nobody hears you. So essentially, if an SP doesn't like your offer, (your money, looks, of the services you want), there always the next client that is willing to see her on her terms. For the John's, if they exercise some patience, they may find the gem they're looking for as so many females doing this now.
Thanks to internet and certain websites, the market has become totally saturated on both sides. Girls who want to make some quick money, can simply start with almost zero over head and within a day. Take a few pics with your phone, post for very minimal money and voila! Your now an SP. The john's can also post way more easy and with email and smart phones, it so much easier to communicate with SP's. You don't have to be that creepy guy anymore driving down Jarvis, or sneaking around on phones so nobody hears you. So essentially, if an SP doesn't like your offer, (your money, looks, of the services you want), there always the next client that is willing to see her on her terms. For the John's, if they exercise some patience, they may find the gem they're looking for as so many females doing this now.
Privacy and discretion: that's a quaint thing of the past.
Agencies keep extensive files on clients. Escorts talk about you to other escorts, whether it is girls in the same agency or Indies commiserating. Many escorts will confide in you about their other clients. It happens all the time. Due to social media though, it sort of goes both ways. I've stumbled across several escort's civilian profiles by accident, saw pictures with their boyfriends, family members etc. Frankly, if you're paranoid or have a lot to lose, I'd stay away from this lifestyle.
I can't relate to the YMMV thing, I must admit. I would say that financial desperation (or in some cases, good-old-fashioned Greed) is pushing women into this business who lack the temperament for it, and who in many cases simply suck at their job.
Agencies keep extensive files on clients. Escorts talk about you to other escorts, whether it is girls in the same agency or Indies commiserating. Many escorts will confide in you about their other clients. It happens all the time. Due to social media though, it sort of goes both ways. I've stumbled across several escort's civilian profiles by accident, saw pictures with their boyfriends, family members etc. Frankly, if you're paranoid or have a lot to lose, I'd stay away from this lifestyle.
I can't relate to the YMMV thing, I must admit. I would say that financial desperation (or in some cases, good-old-fashioned Greed) is pushing women into this business who lack the temperament for it, and who in many cases simply suck at their job.
I think that is why so many use fake pics or don't worry about the service they provide because there are so many guys out there now that they don't care if most guys don't ever come back
I'm not assuming anything, I am just relating my own experience. As regards to money,, when I say a "fat" wallet, its not how much you have but how much your willing to spend, You can be one fat ugly bastard but if you have $2500 per hour to spend I bet you don't get the ymmv thing.
You did assume, you said hit or the gym or have a fat wallet.
So you assume either I need to lose weight to be more attractive to the ladies or be willing to spend a lot more.
You think because you lost weight your experiences has changed. Whereas you think all need to follow a similar path. I am basically the same now as I was when I started, possibly in better shape now. Yet I find ymmv a lot more common now than five years ago. The difference is really the quantity of ladies in this biz now versus five years ago. Now there are a lot more woman thinking they can make quick and easy money doing this job and they don't care about customer satisfaction like girls years ago.
So an SP who found me started up a conversation. Young woman who is incredibly attractive and seems like someone I would like to visit. So after some conversation the topic of booking finally arises and she sends me an email with her screening process:
First and Last name
Birth Date (DD/MM/YY)
LinkedIn/Facebook
Occupation
Phone
Review Board ID
and then introduce myself
Is it more and more common that these ladies ask for such detailed information about us?
First and Last name
Birth Date (DD/MM/YY)
LinkedIn/Facebook
Occupation
Phone
Review Board ID
and then introduce myself
Is it more and more common that these ladies ask for such detailed information about us?
I only see popular ladies
- Valeria Belize
- Sinthia
- liberty love
All have extensive reviews.
No, it's not. Instead of speaking in generalities, why don't you name some of the girls that you're referring to?
I see enough guys white knighting ladies behaviour when I speak in general terms. Don't want to see an uproar of guys trying to protect the image of a lady they have a crush on.
Besides, the point isn't to center out or shame any particular lady for how she conducts business. The point is I was checking to see if this has become normal behaviour.
Would you not post a review for the same reasons? If you speak about a specific SP, maybe there are others who can say that they have had a similar experience.
There are some fools who actually give the ladies what they want
I keep myself totally anonymous and refuse share any personal info
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