What Basketcase is saying selfish people like you who are constantly complaining about businesses being shut down yet at the same time boasting about taking their CERB payments and seeing SP's are full of nonsense and hypocritical at best. Common sense would tell a rational person who is struggling to stop complaining and take care of necessities.
CERB Abuse
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What Basketcase is saying selfish people like you who are constantly complaining about businesses being shut down yet at the same time boasting about taking their CERB payments and seeing SP's are full of nonsense and hypocritical at best. Common sense would tell a rational person who is struggling to stop complaining and take care of necessities.
canada-man
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wanting to work and earn a living is not selfish. you sheeple who blindly believe lies from the fake media and the govt and ignoring the rise in domestic and child abuse, suicides and drug use caused by these lockdown is selfishness.
The Liberals got hammered over this in the Commons today.
A CERB extension is highly unlikely.
And I though the capitalist ideal was to be responsible to yourself.
I fully support the government stepping in to provide essentials to help people survive. I don't think its the government's role to to pay for people's luxuries like visits to your favourite provider.
You just admitted you have the money to save for prostitution. It's your own damn fault if you're going hungry because of it.
Pretty common that when you scratch the surface of alleged libertarian types like you, they expose themselves as simply selfish. Government is bad when it supports others (but amazing when it supports them).
Sorry but hobbies are not a right. You are not complaining about a living but rather a high standard of living. I want my tax dollars to help people afford food and rent, not people who want to get their dick wet.
canada-man
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i never mentioned any hobbies i said i want to work and earn a living can't you read?
So if one person saved money the last few years, they should get less because they lived frugal and within their means? but on the other hand, some person that beyond their means now derserves the same because they didn't save any money?
Why don't we make a list of things we might need, submit it to the govern't and they can break it down to the penny for each one of the millions of people that lost their jobs. Does that work for you?
Are you saying paying escorts is a essential service?
Sorry but you got in this thread to complain about cerb abuse and then say you're using your cerb payments on prostitutes.
People like C-M are arguing that we need to stop restrictions because they are starving but he's made it quite clear he isn't. Instead he admits he is putting the money away to pay for escorts. That is class-A hypocrisy.
As a base level, emergency government support should be for people who's survival depends on it, not so people can maintain their standard of living. And yes, I'm talking from experience. Because of circumstances beyond my control, my childhood went from solid middle class to relying on welfare and food banks. I'm glad there is government support for those in need but people are wrong if they believe the government has a responsibility to pay for luxuries.
And no, I have little sympathy for people who chose to accrue significant debt by living beyond their needs.
Hammered? BY jokers who couldn't do any better?
What's the alternative though? Don't some people cheat on their taxes? Is this what auditing is for?
If someone is flagged for tax evasion, it doesn`t make sense to go ahead and give them their tax refund and hope to get it back later.
At the very least, they should stop paying the flagged fraudsters and put the onus on them to show if they qualify.
Ordering CRA employees to turn a blind eye is what really irked a lot of people, and rightly so.
The prospect of no follow-up also pisses people off.
So this is where your wrong. You can't shut down the economy, have millions of people those their jobs and then say "we're only going to give the money to XYZ group of people". I had 3 jobs before this thing started working 55 hours a week, all 3 got wiped out. People that were working once a week are getting the same amount as me. Is that fair?? no. There's no perfect and fair way to do this, so get over it.
Look, the reality is this....
Millions of people lost their jobs, all with different financial situations for different reasons. You can't start picking and choosing who should get what and why. "you lost your job because we shut down the economy? Yes we'll cut you a check once a month for a while for 2Gs to tie you over". If CM lost his job but has been driving around in a shit box so that he can save money, he can do whatever the fuck he want's with the 2gs. The guy that's been driving a BMW but stretched his dollar to the limit to live this lavish life, well....sorry buddy, your going to have to cut way down on other stuff like fulfilling your sexual needs to try and make those BMW payments or sell it. Or keep the BMW but eat kraft mac and cheese for the few months. Choice is yours. Canada Man lost his job because the government shut down the economy, the 2gs are his and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. See escorts, or don't,save the money for another rainy day or whatever....
I can't but the government can. They have been doing it ever since welfare programs began. They have quite clearly dictated how much money you can make to get welfare and have implemented all sorts of rules to determine who can access subsidized housing etc.
A guy who can't afford to eat because he bought a BMW is the same as someone who claims to need government support because he couldn't afford escorts otherwise. In both cases they can afford to eat but choose not to and therefore their complaints ring hollow.
For people who have lost their job, it sucks but they are the ones who now need to decide what changes they need to make instead of demanding government handouts to keep their luxuries. if anyone needs support to survive then they should get it but not hypocrites like CM and your BMW driver.
No they absolutely fucking do not. The government shut us down and caused us to loose our jobs, so don't tell me I have to change my life style because the government shut down some retail stores and restaurants, but not other retail stores like the beer store. I bet Canada man like me, has been paying into EI for 30 years and probably was never going to get a dime out of it until this pandemic came along. In the mean time, rogue shitty cops get suspended for months or even years with pay on my tax dollars. If you don't think it's right we spend the money on hookers because we saved well or whatever, your barking up the wrong tree because I'm pretty I can speak for us all when I say we don't give a fuck. Bottom line is, as you say "the government can pick who should get what and why". They made that decision and we qualified, its our money to spend as we see fit.
So why have they been doing so for decades?
And sorry but I sure have a right to complain about people using cerb to pay for luxuries just like I have a right to complain about welfare fraud. We can disagree on this but I am sure as hell going to shit on C-M since he constantly bitches about groups taking advantage of the government but has exposed himself as being willing to do the same.
canada-man
Well-known member
show me a post where i bitch about groups taking advantage of the government. provide documented evidence if you are going to accuse another member here
People who have no money aren`t going to be blowing CERB on luxuries.
For people who do have money, CERB goes into the bank account and it is no different than any other money in there.
If someone pays rent, buys groceries, and hires a hooker, it doesn`t make sense to say the CERB money paid for the hooker and the other money paid for the essentials.
That being said, I do separate some cash at times, like when I receive a present and want to do something specifically with those funds.
My parents give me some cash for Christmas and I make a conscious effort to make sure I don`t hand those particular bills over to a stripper or masseuse.
I like to use those bills to buy some clothes and shoes, rather than just stick it in the bank with my other cash.
For people who do have money, CERB goes into the bank account and it is no different than any other money in there.
If someone pays rent, buys groceries, and hires a hooker, it doesn`t make sense to say the CERB money paid for the hooker and the other money paid for the essentials.
That being said, I do separate some cash at times, like when I receive a present and want to do something specifically with those funds.
My parents give me some cash for Christmas and I make a conscious effort to make sure I don`t hand those particular bills over to a stripper or masseuse.
I like to use those bills to buy some clothes and shoes, rather than just stick it in the bank with my other cash.
This time they don't because they're getting CERB. And okay, he's not using his CERB money to get hookers, he using for rent and his other money is going to hookers? Happy?
Liberals, Conservatives, and New Democrats are using the CEWS to pay their employees.
Maybe some of that cash is going to pay hookers? :Eek:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/poli...ir-workers/ar-BB14tkeN?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds
Maybe some of that cash is going to pay hookers? :Eek:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/poli...ir-workers/ar-BB14tkeN?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds
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