Carrot dangling

[Vera.Reis]

Prior consent to sexual services cannot be given, consent is always ongoing, so I don't think that services can be "carrot dangled". Everyone should know this, it sucks if she never had the intention, but there's no way of knowing that unless several clients have it happen to them with the same provider, but just once we don't know what happened. Also given that the majority of people here go to agencies/spas, it's not the girl carrot dangling but the bookers. But I'm sure other things can be carrot dangled, that she doesn't normally take outfit requests unless it's a regular, that if you see her often she will give you extra time, or a special rate, type of thing.

The absolutely most annoying carrot that clients try to dangle is "give me a good price I will be your regular" first off, they are full of shit because they cant know that they will want to see me again before seeing me the first time... and why would I want a cheap regular???? I just offered one of my good regulars (he sends me money for xmas, my bday, valentines day, lingerie etc) my old rate for our next 12hr date and he said no, he will pay my currently rate because i deserve it. He still would be a good regular if he took the offer, but that's because I OFFERED.

 

[Cbr20152012]

Prior consent to sexual services cannot be given, consent is always ongoing, so I don't think that services can be "carrot dangled". Everyone should know this, it sucks if she never had the intention, but there's no way of knowing that unless several clients have it happen to them with the same provider, but just once we don't know what happened. Also given that the majority of people here go to agencies/spas, it's not the girl carrot dangling but the bookers. But I'm sure other things can be carrot dangled, that she doesn't normally take outfit requests unless it's a regular, that if you see her often she will give you extra time, or a special rate, type of thing.

The absolutely most annoying carrot that clients try to dangle is "give me a good price I will be your regular" first off, they are full of shit because they cant know that they will want to see me again before seeing me the first time... and why would I want a cheap regular???? I just offered one of my good regulars (he sends me money for xmas, my bday, valentines day, lingerie etc) my old rate for our next 12hr date and he said no, he will pay my currently rate because i deserve it. He still would be a good regular if he took the offer, but that's because I OFFERED.

I agree with the consent comment (which significantly falls under YMMV but has a greater overall meaning), the booker/agency/etc comments (at least one agency is poor with this) and the comments in her final paragraph (which all professionals).

I had taken previous SP centric carrot dangle comments to be in the vein of false advertising (which based on documented experiences on this site seems pervasive at least in some parts of this world - eg Leolist where contact is direct with the SP) and not in instances covered by YMMV/consent.

 

[MarcoHardOnFire]

No carrot dangling. I will fuck you and then I will pay you the agreed price to leave and not bother me until I want your services again.

 

[xix]

No carrot dangling. I will fuck you and then I will pay you the agreed price to leave and not bother me until I want your services again.

And no extra gifts? or add ons.

When you buy from almart I don't expect to give them extra money.

 

[Vera.Reis]

I agree with the consent comment (which significantly falls under YMMV but has a greater overall meaning), the booker/agency/etc comments (at least one agency is poor with this) and the comments in her final paragraph (which all professionals).

I had taken previous SP centric carrot dangle comments to be in the vein of false advertising (which based on documented experiences on this site seems pervasive at least in some parts of this world - eg Leolist where contact is direct with the SP) and not in instances covered by YMMV/consent.

I agree, like I said it sucks if they never had the intention to provide a service in the first place.

Though I would caution against assuming you are speaking with the provider directly even if she's indy of leolist. Lots of "managed" providers in Ontario and the bar for getting on LL is low so its a more commonly used site by unscrupulous people(to clarify, im not saying everyone there is sus, im just saying its the more commonly used site by those who are sus). I'm doing research for a paper on the material benefit (aka living off the avails) law, and the vaaaaaaast majority of cases are from Ontario even though I'm looking federally.

 

[Josephine]

One I saw 6 times...and it never happened. Not saying the six sessions were not good, they were. But she dangled a certain service but just never delivered.

Only 6 times? I heard 7 is a charm. (Lol)

Edit: sorry but you deserve to be a tiny bit roasted here. It's all love.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

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It creates expectations that won’t be met and it can quickly deteriorate the relationship you have with the provider. You also lose credibility and you risk the sex worker not wanting to vouch for you.

It is totally ok if you don’t have the means to spoil a woman you see every now and then. I have said many times that tips/gifts are never expected but always appreciated.

Are you intentionally doing that or did you just not realize how annoying it could be?

I would guess that guys who do this with escorts do this in other areas of their lives, too. They are the kinda guys who go around bragging and boasting about things they don’t actually own, stuff they haven’t actually done, places they’ve never been, people they’ve never met, etc.

They are losers. They are annoying in all facets of life but probably worst in their dealings with women.

 

[blueray]

Only 6 times? I heard 7 is a charm. (Lol)

Edit: sorry but you deserve to be a tiny bit roasted here. It's all love.

lol. I probably would have seen her a 7th time, but she left the industry. I was young(er) and smitten. I learned my carrot dangling lesson.

 

[kherg007]

I had a mate who suffered from dangling carrot but his doctor gave him some meds that straightened him out

 

[Kusa]

Prior consent to sexual services cannot be given, consent is always ongoing, so I don't think that services can be "carrot dangled". Everyone should know this, it sucks if she never had the intention, but there's no way of knowing that unless several clients have it happen to them with the same provider, but just once we don't know what happened. Also given that the majority of people here go to agencies/spas, it's not the girl carrot dangling but the bookers. But I'm sure other things can be carrot dangled, that she doesn't normally take outfit requests unless it's a regular, that if you see her often she will give you extra time, or a special rate, type of thing...

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I am of a divergent view concerning your initial statement. I believe that advance consent may be granted for specific sexual services/acts under agreed-upon circumstances, it's crucial to recognize that such consent is not perpetual and can be revoked at any moment.

Given the dynamic nature of consent, it seems plausible that in the future, individuals might get consent to have sex but not get consent to ejaculate.

 

[Josephine]

The most annoying carrot dangling for me are the "clients" that only very rarely book you, but spend their time in your dms starting convo for sweet nothing. Finishing with a "I will see you soon". I NEVER sollicit my clients because I feel like I am not entitled to their time and money. I don't understand why people are doing this to me. My most important clients never text me for nothing. This behavior is really weird to me. Just don't say anything at all....why?

 

[blueray]

The most annoying carrot dangling for me are the "clients" that only very rarely book you, but spend their time in your dms starting convo for sweet nothing. Finishing with a "I will see you soon". I NEVER sollicit my clients because I feel like I am not entitled to their time and money. I don't understand why people are doing this to me. My most important clients never text me for nothing. This behavior is really weird to me. Just don't say anything at all....why?

I think for some, the fantasy is not being with a beautiful escort, it's just the idea of being with a beautiful escort. Hence the never ending messages that fuel the fantasy but ultimately go nowhere. I am sure you have gotten pretty good at identifying this early.

 

[Josephine]

I think for some, the fantasy is not being with a beautiful escort, it's just the idea of being with a beautiful escort. Hence the never ending messages that fuel the fantasy but ultimately go nowhere. I am sure you have gotten pretty good at identifying this early.

Now yes, but how many time did I waste when I started. It's sad too because sometimes, you end up having to cut off people you actually liked seeing even if it was sporadic.

 

[squeezer]

One I saw 6 times...and it never happened. Not saying the six sessions were not good, they were. But she dangled a certain service but just never delivered.

My rule is that if I am only offered a CBJ, I never return. I don't whine or give the lady a hard time, I just don't go back. Luckily it doesn't happen often or I'd be in trouble.

 

[Vera.Reis]

The most annoying carrot dangling for me are the "clients" that only very rarely book you, but spend their time in your dms starting convo for sweet nothing. Finishing with a "I will see you soon". I NEVER sollicit my clients because I feel like I am not entitled to their time and money. I don't understand why people are doing this to me. My most important clients never text me for nothing. This behavior is really weird to me. Just don't say anything at all....why?

This, my best clients only msg me to book, and do so in 2 or 3 msgd. It's the 1hr clients, who try to drain everything they can from a session, and only come around every few months, that want to text all day. I quickly shut it down and say "I look forward to hearing from you when you are ready to book our next date" if they continue trying to chat I tell them that the amount of time and attention they need, compared to what they pay me, isn't working for me and I'm ending our professional relationship as it is not mutually beneficial. Hopefully this makes them think twice about acting like this with someone else, but I sadly doubt it.

 

[Josephine]

This, my best clients only msg me to book, and do so in 2 or 3 msgd. It's the 1hr clients, who try to drain everything they can from a session, and only come around every few months, that want to text all day. I quickly shut it down and say "I look forward to hearing from you when you are ready to book our next date" if they continue trying to chat I tell them that the amount of time and attention they need, compared to what they pay me, isn't working for me and I'm ending our professional relationship as it is not mutually beneficial. Hopefully this makes them think twice about acting like this with someone else, but I sadly doubt it.

There must be a gap between your 1hr clients and your multihours one indeed. Never thought of it. I guess as much as we take off the 15/20 min bng because it's always the guys that want more for less. Your hour session is often like the session of the guys that want luxury but can't really afford it so he will drain everything he can of his 600$.

I don't think there is a correlation with the lenght of the session and the lenght of the carrot for me at least.

 

[Vera.Reis]

There must be a gap between your 1hr clients and your multihours one indeed. Never thought of it. I guess as much as we take off the 15/20 min bng because it's always the guys that want more for less. Your hour session is often like the session of the guys that want luxury but can't really afford it so he will drain everything he can of his 600$.

I don't think there is a correlation with the lenght of the session and the lenght of the carrot for me at least.

For me it was the same when I was 350/hr, but maybe we just attract different client regardless of rate