None of this would have a chance of happening if Trump wasn't running the 3 ring circus with his dumbassery style. If Kamala was running things right now, everything would be purrring along and there would be stability without fears of major layoffs.
Carney To Visit White House Next Week - Trump Calls Him "Nice Gentleman"
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The housing crisis was going to happen either way, go do some research on mortgage defaults, insurance rising, and interest rates, the stock market has been inflated for awhile and due for a correction. Both Gaza and Ukraine would be the same. Layoffs started last year. UPS laid off 15,000 under Biden, now 20,000. Intel 12,000 last year, 15,000 this year as examples.
Trump is just accelerating the inevitable. He didn't create all the underlying problems will the US economy, but he sure as he'll didn't mitigate them, instead he is doing everything wrong to worsen them.
Mortgage defaults in Canada are very low—fact. Interest rates have already come down and would have dropped even further if Trump hadn’t decided to throw a tantrum with tariffs and spark another round of chaos.
And as for jobs under Biden? DUDE, seriously—get your facts straight. Once again, you’re bending over backwards to smear the Democrats just so you can hand the GOP a lifeline or an excuse. It’s honestly hilarious watching you try so hard to twist reality into something that flatters the "Repugs." Maybe try facts next time—it might be a refreshing change.
Overall Job Growth (Jan 2021 – Jan 2025):
- Total jobs added: ~15 million
- Unemployment rate (Jan 2025): ~3.9%
- Unemployment rate (Jan 2021): ~6.3%
- Net private sector job growth: Strong across most sectors, especially in health care, hospitality, and construction.
Key Highlights:- Recovery from COVID-19 recession: Much of the early job growth was a rebound from pandemic losses. By mid-2022, the U.S. had regained all jobs lost in 2020.
- Manufacturing jobs: Over 800,000 added since 2021—helped by infrastructure and CHIPS Act investments.
- Wage growth: Nominal wages have risen, though inflation moderated real wage gains until 2023.
It has nothing to do with partisan politics. It's reality. When I criticized Harris and Biden it's because of facts. He was in Cognitive decline and she is an incompetent but functioning alcoholic. Both showed that on national TV.Mortgage defaults in Canada are very low—fact. Interest rates have already come down and would have dropped even further if Trump hadn’t decided to throw a tantrum with tariffs and spark another round of chaos.
And as for jobs under Biden? DUDE, seriously—get your facts straight. Once again, you’re bending over backwards to smear the Democrats just so you can hand the GOP a lifeline or an excuse. It’s honestly hilarious watching you try so hard to twist reality into something that flatters the "Repugs." Maybe try facts next time—it might be a refreshing change.
Overall Job Growth (Jan 2021 – Jan 2025):
- Total jobs added: ~15 million
- Unemployment rate (Jan 2025): ~3.9%
- Unemployment rate (Jan 2021): ~6.3%
- Net private sector job growth: Strong across most sectors, especially in health care, hospitality, and construction.
- Recovery from COVID-19 recession: Much of the early job growth was a rebound from pandemic losses. By mid-2022, the U.S. had regained all jobs lost in 2020.
- Manufacturing jobs: Over 800,000 added since 2021—helped by infrastructure and CHIPS Act investments.
- Wage growth: Nominal wages have risen, though inflation moderated real wage gains until 2023.
Unemployment numbers are fudged by not including those off Unemployment insurance and no longer looking for work. As well the actual pay is shitty on many of those jobs. Non unionized. Google doesn't tell the tale on ground.
More is coming. And yes Trump is to blame. But so is the cyclical US economy.
I hope Carney offers Trump no concessions and treats this trip purely as a fact-finding mission. The international community must remain united in standing up to Trump's tactics. Any compromise by Carney could set a dangerous precedent, signaling to other nations that they, too, should appease the “Orange Thug.” The outcome Trump is likely seeking is a chain reaction of countries offering him concessions.
China appears to have adopted the most effective strategy. Refusing to engage or negotiate with someone using extortion as a tactic. Tariffs won’t hold up indefinitely. When American store shelves begin to empty and consumer prices skyrocket, the political backlash will be swift. The people backing Trump may turn on him once economic hardship hits home. The MAGAs will riot and the Proud Boys will turn into the Loud Boys when they are hurt in the pocket. Canada and other nations should prioritize diversifying their trade relationships and seek out new markets.
China appears to have adopted the most effective strategy. Refusing to engage or negotiate with someone using extortion as a tactic. Tariffs won’t hold up indefinitely. When American store shelves begin to empty and consumer prices skyrocket, the political backlash will be swift. The people backing Trump may turn on him once economic hardship hits home. The MAGAs will riot and the Proud Boys will turn into the Loud Boys when they are hurt in the pocket. Canada and other nations should prioritize diversifying their trade relationships and seek out new markets.
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you maybe right or wrong about how to handle a bully
but this part is nonsense
he is president for the next 3 and a half years
3 and a half years of tariffs will devastate and permanently shrink our economy
75% of our trade is with the US
Canada (and Mexico) is far more exposed than other countries
Countries always act in their own self interest
And Carney has a responsibility to act in the best interest of Canada , not other countries
your premise is flawed
if Carney takes this globalist position we are screwed
diversifying trade should always be a priority, not just now
you are dreaming if you think we can replace 75% of our trade
logistics & distance dictate huge margin erosion
we will need a deal with the US
our economy is export dependant, while the us economy is domestic orientated
if this stretches out into 2026 our economy will implode
Ah yes, the “just the facts” approach, complete with armchair diagnoses and sweeping generalizations as the usual Butt Facts. Very objective. , Harris is a "functioning alcoholic", and all this is based on... what? Your expert medical opinion via Trump Echo Chamber clips? If that’s how we’re doing “facts” now, I’d hate to see what your fiction looks like.
As for unemployment, sure, it's not a perfect metric. But saying it's all “fudged” is like blaming your bathroom scale when you don’t like the number—it’s a bit more complicated than that. Wages and unionization are real concerns, yes, but they didn’t suddenly start being problems in 2021. Funny how those details get left out.
Yes I doubt there is going to be any deals cut today.
Best I can hope for is that they first align on the agenda that they will be negotiating on in the first place.
And may be get Trump to lay off the 51st state comments moving forward.
I'd consider that progress.
Based on her performance from Hawaii, and numerous sources reporting on it.
The big take away is this was pre recorded and yet still released. Shows a staff that hates her(former Biden staffers probably, or one's she was abusive too). Who releases something looking this bad?
And if you don't think the administrations fudge numbers for political purposes you are naive. Trump is doing it too.
Canada has become too comfortable when it comes to trade, business, and industry. We’ve focused on easy deals to make the most profit. Trading with the U.S. has been convenient because it’s close by and shipping costs are low. It is unlikely that Canada will lose 75% of its trade. There will always be some trade between Canada and the U.S., even with tariffs in place.
Trump’s policies are pushing Canada to trade more with countries farther away. These countries also want to trade with Canada, and if we can make up for the 25% tariffs by raising prices or finding better deals, the impact might not be so bad.
When do we truly need to trade with the U.S.? These tariffs won’t last. Congress might take back control over trade decisions, especially if people get upset. If store shelves start to empty and prices go up, pressure will grow. Protests are already happening, not just in the U.S., but in other parts of the world too.
you are dreaming if you think we can replace lost US trade
if it were not so sad it would be highly amusing to hear loonie lefties pretending they understand international trade or understand business at all
so go out and find international orders for millions of tons of steel, and Aluminium
just give your rolodex a whirl, and conjure up an order for millions of tons of canolea that china was going to buy before the liberals Tariffed China to protect Canada's non -existent EV industry
You do not have a clue
Canada's economy is 2/3 dependant on trade
the US economy is 2/3 dependant on domestic consumption
we can not afford to try and wait this out for an extended period of time
Po Boy,
Go back and read post #52
Po Boys hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest. I said
"It is unlikely that Canada will lose 75% of its trade. There will always be some trade between Canada and the U.S., even with tariffs in place". and " Congress might take back control over trade decisions ".
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go back and read post #53
you are dreaming if you think we can replace lost US trade
if it were not so sad it would be highly amusing to hear loonie lefties pretending they understand international trade or understand business at all
''some trade'' with the US will still be economically crippling for Canada
Congress might not take back control over trade decisions
The republican controlled congress may not wish to stage a revolt vs. the executive branch
Trump says he has a number of trade deals in the works , so they are likely to give him lots of latitude before staging a revolt
Do not count on the republican controlled Congress creating inter party political turmoil for Canada
you do not get it
Canada's economy is 2/3 dependant on trade
the US economy is 2/3 dependant on domestic consumption
we can not afford to try and wait this out for an extended period of time
You do not get it..............................
The whole world is against the mad man, his policies will not stick, I will give you some good advice to not hang around with Trump. When the crowd Mussolini him they might hang you upside down next to him.
no you are one who is not paying attention
then why are all the world leaders rushing to Washington to try and get tariffs lifted from their specific countries ?
countries act in their own best interest
if Canada was offered an acceptable deal tomorrow we are not going to turn it down to secure the removal of Tariffs on China or Mexico
and they are not going to walk away from a deal for our sake
he is playing a high stakes poker game, no doubt and it may not play out no doubt
but he has leverage as every country wants/ needs to sell into the US market
and the US economy is far less dependant on trade than export oriented countries like Canada / Mexico
he will do a deal with one of those two and then squeeze the other
not a nice friendly partner approach, however that is the nature of leverage by a prick
stow that nonsense traitor rhetoric, you would sell Canada out to a world wide socialist / commie movement at the drop of a hat
do not dare to pretend you are more patriotic than any other Canadian
no one in Canada asked for this trade war
I will give you some good advice
use normal colored / sized fonts ( its a nightmare quoting your nonsense) and stop hanging around 8 feet in the air
you need a more grounded perspective
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Yes, and a good portion is trade they can't do without. Energy, building materials, fertilizer. They have no choice.
I like Carney, and I think he'll do a good job, but hearing trump say that is faint praise. He wouldn't recognise a 'nice gentleman' if he had instructions and a diagram.
Carney gave Trump a set of golf clubs as a present
I assume Carney knows Trump is a meglomaniac, extreme narcissist, sociopath, rapist, criminal, incompetent and pathological liar and is kissing up for the good of Canada
But, is this a Carney mistake?
Trump has and will turn on a dime. Trump had insulted Trudeau many times thusly insulting Canada.
He still tells lies about how we will all be rich if we become a state, how the USA subsidizes us
etc etc and is trying to tear our country apart with his takeover lies and we say nothing
Deferring to Trump is deferring to a crazy spoiled manchild and thinking it will work
The only thing Trump respects is adults with power who decry his lies
I would rather have a Carney who leads the world in the anti Trump movement by giving Trump a set of elbows up instead of a set of golf clubs
Zelenski kissing up I understand but I disrespect other countries who do it
so why should I want our PM doing it ?
I assume Carney knows Trump is a meglomaniac, extreme narcissist, sociopath, rapist, criminal, incompetent and pathological liar and is kissing up for the good of Canada
But, is this a Carney mistake?
Trump has and will turn on a dime. Trump had insulted Trudeau many times thusly insulting Canada.
He still tells lies about how we will all be rich if we become a state, how the USA subsidizes us
etc etc and is trying to tear our country apart with his takeover lies and we say nothing
Deferring to Trump is deferring to a crazy spoiled manchild and thinking it will work
The only thing Trump respects is adults with power who decry his lies
I would rather have a Carney who leads the world in the anti Trump movement by giving Trump a set of elbows up instead of a set of golf clubs
Zelenski kissing up I understand but I disrespect other countries who do it
so why should I want our PM doing it ?
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