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Carney Folds again: Carney ends most counter-tariffs as Trump trade talks continue

DesRicardo

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CUSMA is up for review in 2026. Ever think this is just a money grab against USA taxpayers and an attempt to move the goalposts for those negotiations?

So really it comes down to Trump has no desire to actually negotiate in good faith. And if he won't then there is no point in worrying over it. Carney will continue to have the trade diplomats engage Trump's team, meanwhile he can use his connections to open other trade possibilities.
Well DUH, CUSMA is up for review next year, so is it best to wade into a full blown, antagonistic trade war now or, knowing its coming, we instead use the year we have, to prepare as best we can for the coming storm? Yes its a stall tactic, not just to admit the current reality but to better prepare for whats ahead. In the meantime the US economy is starting to suffer, and there is a very good chance Trump may get weaker leading up to the mid terms.
I swear, no matter what Carney does you guys spin it right round. :ROFLMAO:

 
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Frankfooter

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And that's the thing with Carney, he only tells the public the end result. It's all secrets and stalling for time.

Everyone is kept in the dark and the outcome keeps looking worse than the previous day.
So you have no idea what Carney's going to do?
But you're sure its going to be wrong, whatever it is?
 

Ceiling Cat

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What did he get for dropping Tariffs then? For like the 5th time now? Another phone conversation with Trump?:ROFLMAO:
Lao Tzu - The philosopher General

The soft, gentle, and seemingly weak can overcome the hard and strong through persistence and non-resistance, as illustrated by water wearing down stone.

By dropping tariffs he is opening up sales for Canadian companies. there is nothing signed, and tariffs can be reimposed. Trump may be up to his neck in his own doo-doo soon with the Epstein situation. It is easier to negotiate with Trump when his own citizens get hit by inflation from higher prices cause by tariffs. It will be easier to get a better deal when Carney negotiates with Trump with a mob of other countries beside him. The courts have ruled Trump's presidential tariffs illegal, so the tariffs may be removed soon.

 

richaceg

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Is it folding or part of negotiations? If you give nothing then you will get nothing, especially from a guy like Trump. There are no deals signed yet, so maybe it is a stalling tactic.
If we follow your logic, Trump didn't fold with Putin? And negotiated? 😆 🤣 😂 😹
 
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lomotil

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PeePee would be kneeling at tRump's feet polishing his boots.
And that is exactly what Carney is doing right now...
The problem is that Trump is a vain glorious peace of shit. He is however attempting to carry out as the elected POTUS the mandate that he was elected to perform.
Forget who is the PM of Canada and folding because this country is far too small and economically insignificant to challenge America on many fronts.
Standing up to Trump is an oxymoron in terms as Carney, Poilievre and Trudeau are personally wealthy and no matter what, heir dinner plate is guaranteed to be perpetually full . It is the average or marginal Canadian that will be slaughtered if a Canadian PM doesn’t “ fold”
The best strategy with Trump is to mitigate the potential damage to Canada by risking antagonizing Trump and wait this. mother fucker out ok .
 

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Trump is perhaps fattening Carney and Canada for the kill. In preparation for the 2026 CUSMA , Canadian will be rocked with even more austere tariffs before the negotiations start. Trump will also backstop the looming Alberta sovereignty referendum as much as he can further destabilizing Canadian unity.
Trump is working towards the annexation of Canada or at least the choice provinces like
energy rich Alberta and potash rich Saskatchewa where enjoys undeniable support.
Carney may well be one of the last PM to govern an intact Canada if not the last PM as MAGA Trump goes for the jugular of Canada.
Trump is screwing the US economy in every respect. No doubt that he will get spanked in the mid terms, and that is why he is desperately trying to rig those elections!!
He is a very crooked individual, who bankrupted his numerous businesses. Once again the majority of Canadians have no intention of being "annexed" by the USA and as the 51st State. That stupidity was pulled out of Trump's ass. Even in Alberta and Saskatchewan there is only a small minority who are okay with breaking from Canada. Danielle Smith will have egg all over her face with her dumbness in this respect. Of course only Trump's cult followers on this Board believe his myth about the 51st State and how his tariffs will bring jobs back to the USA!! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Trump is screwing the US economy in every respect. No doubt that he will get spanked in the mid terms, and that is why he is desperately trying to rig those elections!!
He is a very crooked individual, who bankrupted his numerous businesses. Once again the majority of Canadians have no intention of being "annexed" by the USA and as the 51st State. That stupidity was pulled out of Trump's ass. Even in Alberta and Saskatchewan there is only a small minority who are okay with breaking from Canada. Danielle Smith will have egg all over her face with her dumbness in this respect. Of course only Trump's cult followers on this Board believe his myth about the 51st State and how his tariffs will bring jobs back to the USA!! :ROFLMAO:
Now looky looky what the cat went and drug in....
 
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bver_hunter

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He doesn't know how to handle him. Carney gets gets instructions from the EU and does what he told.

You voted in a puppet government.
Carney has managed to boost trade relationships with the EU and Mexico that will benefit Canada and hurt several USA States in the long run!!
Carney handily won the elections, so suck up to it. We know that only the alt righties keep on bawling their eyes out when Pee Pee even lost his own seat!! :ROFLMAO:
Now that he will be back in Parliament, no doubt we will hear the usual groans and moans from him, that will push his popularity further and further down into the doldrums!!
 
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richaceg

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So you want Carney to put in reprisal tariffs?
Like I said, negotiations happen all the time.... carneybdidnt fold at all...you get the best deal you can...same with Trump...but you keep denying when Trump does it...your hypocrisy knows no bounds....
 
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