Canadians Now Paying Lower Income Taxes Than Americans, OECD Data Shows

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Canadians Now Paying Lower Income Taxes Than Americans, OECD Data Shows

And families with children are paying much, much less than Americans.

By Daniel Tencer

Here's an unexpected factoid: The tax rate for a married couple with one income and two kids in the U.S. is 12 times as high as the tax rate on the same family in Canada.

No, that's not a typo.

It's among new data from the OECD, which shows that the old belief Canadians are a higher-taxed people than Americans is no longer true.

The OECD's study, "Taxing Wages 2018," found that the employee net average tax rate for a single person in Canada with no children was 22.8 per cent in 2017, the 11th lowest among 35 OECD countries. The U.S. clocked in at 26.1 per cent.



The difference is much more extreme when it comes to households with children, thanks to the Liberals' expanded child benefit.

"The employee net average tax rate for an average married worker with two children in Canada was reduced to 1.2 per cent in 2017, which is the 32nd lowest in the OECD," the report noted.

In other words, an average one-income household with two children now keeps 98.8 per cent of their gross income, once the child benefit is factored in.

In the U.S., the same family would pay 14.2 per cent in taxes, a tax rate some 12 times higher than in Canada.



Back In 2000, that same one-income, two-child family would have paid 23.1 per cent in taxes in Canada, compared to 21.2 per cent in the U.S. How times have changed.

The numbers are all the more remarkable when considering how much more value for money Canadian wage earners get for their taxes than Americans — our universal health care system being one obvious example.

Of course, the U.S. taxpayer is footing the bill for some things Canadians don't, such as the world's largest, most expensive military.

And these days, the Canadian business community is worried that**our corporate tax rates are no longer competitive with the U.S., after the large tax reform package passed by the U.S. Congress late last year.

But we can certainly take pride in our personal tax rates. Canada's high-tax monster has been slain.

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/05/03/income-taxes-canada-lower-us-oecd_a_23426460/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001
 

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Hey larue!!!!

Where are you johnnylarue?

Looks like you're going to have to vote for Justin now!
 

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Thanks to Trump's tax bill reforms, the middle class will eventually pay even higher taxes.
Trudeau is doing a great job, and no wonder his popularity ratings are still the highest among the leaders of all the parties in Canada.
 

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Hey larue!!!!

Where are you johnnylarue?

Looks like you're going to have to vote for Justin now!
God you are stupid

That looks like Federal taxes only
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...rates-individuals-current-previous-years.html
Federal tax rates for 2018
15% on the first $46,605 of taxable income, +
20.5% on the next $46,603 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 46,605 up to $93,208), +
26% on the next $51,281 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $93,208 up to $144,489), +
29% on the next $61,353 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 144,489 up to $205,842), +
33% of taxable income over $205,842.

https://careers.workopolis.com/advi...earning-the-average-canadian-wages-right-now/
As of September 2017, the average wage for Canadian employees was $986 a week – or just over $51,000 a year.

Layer in provincial taxes , sales taxes, gasoline taxes and the myriad of other tax grabs and we are much closer to 50% on average,
Way more than the Americans

Why are you so stupid?
 

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Hence the US tax cut.
 

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God you are smart

That looks like Federal taxes only
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...rates-individuals-current-previous-years.html
Federal tax rates for 2018
15% on the first $46,605 of taxable income, +
20.5% on the next $46,603 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 46,605 up to $93,208), +
26% on the next $51,281 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $93,208 up to $144,489), +
29% on the next $61,353 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 144,489 up to $205,842), +
33% of taxable income over $205,842.

https://careers.workopolis.com/advi...earning-the-average-canadian-wages-right-now/
As of September 2017, the average wage for Canadian employees was $986 a week – or just over $51,000 a year.

Layer in provincial taxes , sales taxes, gasoline taxes and the myriad of other tax grabs and we are much closer to 50% on average,
Way more than the Americans

Why are you so smart?
Nope, once again you failed.
This is a study that includes taxes and social benefits, which includes federal and provincial taxes.

You better vote liberals, since we're now paying less taxes then the US and we get healthcare.
 

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Nope, once again you failed.
This is a study that includes taxes and social benefits, which includes federal and provincial taxes.

You better vote liberals, since we're now paying less taxes then the US and we get healthcare.
Do honestly believe that average Canadian pays only 21% * 51,000 = approx $10,000 total tax????
do you honestly think the average total tax bill is less than in the US ??

You are just too stupid

the average Canadian pays that amount by April- May
 

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Do honestly believe that average Canadian pays only 21% * 51,000 = approx $10,000 total tax????
do you honestly think the average total tax bill is less than in the US ??

You are just too smart

the average Canadian pays that amount by April- May
That includes social benefits.
Its not just taxes paid.
Canada has lots of tax breaks for families.

Your opinion is once again uninformed and clueless.
 

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I find it quite hilarious and ironic that the Huffington Post and our Liberal friends in this forum are actually touting lower taxes. Aren't these the same folks that continually bash the US for not charging enough taxes? But I digress.

On to the topic at hand. This OECD study has two main flaws:

1. It ignores that the average American employee makes about $10-$13K more than the average Canadian employee. Hence the higher average tax rate.
2. The study of the American vs Canadian one income earner with two children treats the Canadian Child Tax Benefit as a reduction of taxes. But that's not what it is. It is a social transfer program that is based on income level. Hence it should not be included in the equation.

Furthermore, income taxes are only 1 component of the overall tax burden. When we look at sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, user fees and now carbon taxes the average Canadian household pays far more per year than the average American household. I won't even get into how we Canadians get ripped off on prices of most goods relative to our American counterparts. That is in essence a hidden tax.

In 2017 Tax Freedom Day in Canada was June 9. In the U.S. it was April 23.
 

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I find it quite hilarious and ironic that the Huffington Post and our Liberal friends in this forum are actually touting lower taxes. Aren't these the same folks that continually bash the US for not charging enough taxes? But I digress.

On to the topic at hand. This OECD study has two main flaws:

1. It ignores that the average American employee makes about $10-$13K more than the average Canadian employee. Hence the higher average tax rate.
2. The study of the American vs Canadian one income earner with two children treats the Canadian Child Tax Benefit as a reduction of taxes. But that's not what it is. It is a social transfer program that is based on income level. Hence it should not be included in the equation.

Furthermore, income taxes are only 1 component of the overall tax burden. When we look at sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, user fees and now carbon taxes the average Canadian household pays far more per year than the average American household. I won't even get into how we Canadians get ripped off on prices of most goods relative to our American counterparts. That is in essence a hidden tax.

In 2017 Tax Freedom Day in Canada was June 9. In the U.S. it was April 23.
False: According to the website numbeo.com, the average income of an American and a Canadian are approximately the same amount. Canada's after-tax monthly income is about $3,000 which totals around $36,000per year. The U.S. sits just below Canada at approximately $2,942 per month, or roughly $35,300 per year.

Canadians receive better social benefits such as healthcare, paid maternity leave and greater subsidization of their post-secondary schools. Both countries generally have around the same annual income. However, the cost of living in the United States is remarkably less. While Canadians may pay less for larger-life events, Americans pay less for day-to-day expenses such as eating and housing costs. Maybe it all evens out in the end, or perhaps one place really is better to live than the other.

University can be another extremely large cost in a person's life. It puts many students tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Individual states have the choice on whether or not they want to grant funding to large state-run universities. Despite these grants, schooling is still very expensive for the average American. A bachelor's degree in the U.S. can run from about $37,600 for an average public college to over $160,000 at prestigious schools such as Harvard. In Canada, the average cost of an undergraduate degree starts at $8,000 (Quebec) and increases to about $26,000. The most expensive undergraduate programs in Canada will cost around $50,000, which is approximately one-third the cost of a degree from Harvard University.
 

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False: According to the website numbeo.com, the average income of an American and a Canadian are approximately the same amount. Canada's after-tax monthly income is about $3,000 which totals around $36,000per year. The U.S. sits just below Canada at approximately $2,942 per month, or roughly $35,300 per year.

Canadians receive better social benefits such as healthcare, paid maternity leave and greater subsidization of their post-secondary schools. Both countries generally have around the same annual income. However, the cost of living in the United States is remarkably less. While Canadians may pay less for larger-life events, Americans pay less for day-to-day expenses such as eating and housing costs. Maybe it all evens out in the end, or perhaps one place really is better to live than the other.

University can be another extremely large cost in a person's life. It puts many students tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Individual states have the choice on whether or not they want to grant funding to large state-run universities. Despite these grants, schooling is still very expensive for the average American. A bachelor's degree in the U.S. can run from about $37,600 for an average public college to over $160,000 at prestigious schools such as Harvard. In Canada, the average cost of an undergraduate degree starts at $8,000 (Quebec) and increases to about $26,000. The most expensive undergraduate programs in Canada will cost around $50,000, which is approximately one-third the cost of a degree from Harvard University.
Well that website you are using is wrong. That being said my statement was also incorrect I was quoting the average income (not just employee) of an American vs Canadian.

1 Monaco 186,080 $ 15,507 $
2 Liechtenstein 116,300 $ 9,692 $
3 Switzerland 82,090 $ 6,841 $
4 Norway 81,980 $ 6,832 $
5 Luxembourg 71,590 $ 5,966 $
6 Macau 65,130 $ 5,428 $
7 Denmark 56,990 $ 4,749 $
8 United States 56,850 $ 4,738 $
9 Iceland 56,760 $ 4,730 $
10 Sweden 54,770 $ 4,564 $
11 Australia 54,230 $ 4,519 $
12 Ireland 53,970 $ 4,498 $
13 Singapore 51,880 $ 4,323 $
14 Netherlands 46,610 $ 3,884 $
15 Austria 45,880 $ 3,823 $
16 Finland 45,040 $ 3,753 $
17 Germany 43,940 $ 3,662 $
18 Canada 43,880 $ 3,657 $
19 Hong Kong 42,940 $ 3,578 $
20 Belgium 42,610 $ 3,551 $
21 United Kingdom 42,370 $ 3,531 $

https://www.worlddata.info/average-income.php
 

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This is too much
The loonies must not think Canadians are very bright if they are trying to paint the Liberals as tax friendly.
Nothing could be farther from the truth, especially the current lot of free spenders at both the Federal and Provincial level
 

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Well that website you are using is wrong. That being said my statement was also incorrect I was quoting the average income (not just employee) of an American vs Canadian.

1 Monaco 186,080 $ 15,507 $
2 Liechtenstein 116,300 $ 9,692 $
3 Switzerland 82,090 $ 6,841 $
4 Norway 81,980 $ 6,832 $
5 Luxembourg 71,590 $ 5,966 $
6 Macau 65,130 $ 5,428 $
7 Denmark 56,990 $ 4,749 $
8 United States 56,850 $ 4,738 $
9 Iceland 56,760 $ 4,730 $
10 Sweden 54,770 $ 4,564 $
11 Australia 54,230 $ 4,519 $
12 Ireland 53,970 $ 4,498 $
13 Singapore 51,880 $ 4,323 $
14 Netherlands 46,610 $ 3,884 $
15 Austria 45,880 $ 3,823 $
16 Finland 45,040 $ 3,753 $
17 Germany 43,940 $ 3,662 $
18 Canada 43,880 $ 3,657 $
19 Hong Kong 42,940 $ 3,578 $
20 Belgium 42,610 $ 3,551 $
21 United Kingdom 42,370 $ 3,531 $

https://www.worlddata.info/average-income.php
Effect of the new tax law:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/10-tax-changes-you-need-to-know-for-2018.html

That single household with one income and two kids would pay:

$56,800 - $24,000 (standard deduction) = taxable income of: 32,800

Fed tax rate of 12% = $3,936 of income tax - $4,000 child tax credit = federal income tax of -$64

There are state income taxes in most states and payroll tax for retirement and Medicare on top of this.

This doesn’t assume any of the income was put in a 401k Account, if so that would directly reduce the top line $56k
 

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God you are stupid

That looks like Federal taxes only
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...rates-individuals-current-previous-years.html
Federal tax rates for 2018
15% on the first $46,605 of taxable income, +
20.5% on the next $46,603 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 46,605 up to $93,208), +
26% on the next $51,281 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $93,208 up to $144,489), +
29% on the next $61,353 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 144,489 up to $205,842), +
33% of taxable income over $205,842.

https://careers.workopolis.com/advi...earning-the-average-canadian-wages-right-now/
As of September 2017, the average wage for Canadian employees was $986 a week – or just over $51,000 a year.

Layer in provincial taxes , sales taxes, gasoline taxes and the myriad of other tax grabs and we are much closer to 50% on average,
Way more than the Americans

Why are you so stupid?
Frankie is soooooooo stupid!
Need to add in the Carbon TAX / Carbon Cap & Trade too! To save environment bullshit ' aka globe warming " rebranded as climate change so it give the government perfectly excuses to get more taxes form guillable taxpayers " aka revenue tools" .
 

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Frankie is soooooooo smart!
Need to add in the Carbon TAX / Carbon Cap & Trade too! To save environment bullshit ' aka globe warming " rebranded as climate change so it give the government perfectly excuses to get more taxes form guillable taxpayers " aka revenue tools" .
Unfortunately both you larue are unable to understand that when you add taxes and benefits you end up paying less to the government for families here then in the US.
larue just goes back to insults and repeatedly posting tax rates only.
Not the sharpest crayon in the pack.
 

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That includes social benefits.
Its not just taxes paid.
Canada has lots of tax breaks for families.

Your opinion is once again uninformed and clueless.
You are the clueless one if you ignore the sales tax, carbon tax, gasoline taxes & all the other grabs our govts make
There is no way in hell Canadians are taxed less than the americans
 

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Unfortunately both you larue are unable to understand that when you add taxes and benefits you end up paying less to the government for families here then in the US.
larue just goes back to insults and repeatedly posting tax rates only.
Not the sharpest crayon in the pack.
Too funny
you should go out and buy a clue
They cost $1 in the US and $2.75 in Can
 
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