Canada's Quality of Life index - is it plummeting?

K Douglas

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I'd say for the average joe it has definitely decreased from when Trudeau stepped into power in 2016 to present day. Wages have not kept up with inflation and taxes. Money is fleeing the country. Look at 4:30 of this video.

I'm not sure that its this extreme but I personally know of 3 high net worth individuals who have left Canada permanently. One to Israel, one to Florida and one to Mexico.
 

Butler1000

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These various surveys and ranking are really dependent on what criteria is used for determining the final number. Add in if you look at the overall score we haven't changed much.

Then look at how close most numbers are. Basically anything top 30ish you have the probability of a good life with choices.
 

Butler1000

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I'm also curious what caused some of these jumps, and why some are now on the list? What did Luxemberg, Oman, Lithuania, Iceland and Croatia suddenly do to rise so high? And not be on the list at all before?

Looking like bad AI to me.
 
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JohnLarue

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What do you declare as the cause of this problem and how do you propose to fix it?
  1. remove from office the fools (the liberal party of Canada) who created the problem
  2. shrink the size of government (federal and provincial) dramatically
  3. generate a surplus
  4. start to chip away at Justin's mountain of debt
  5. advise our children, grandchildren that their futures were destroyed by irresponsible loonie left fools & hope we can clean up this mess for the great grand kids
  6. sadly kiss universal health care goodbye
 

Frankfooter

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  1. remove from office the fools (the liberal party of Canada) who created the problem
  2. shrink the size of government (federal and provincial) dramatically
  3. generate a surplus
  4. start to chip away at Justin's mountain of debt
  5. advise our children, grandchildren that their futures were destroyed by irresponsible loonie left fools & hope we can clean up this mess for the great grand kids
  6. sadly kiss universal health care goodbye
Oh great, the flat earther has returned to once again argue for Reagonomics.

Arguing to end universal health care will make you even more unpopular then declaring climate change doesn't exist.
 

K Douglas

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What do you declare as the cause of this problem and how do you propose to fix it?
1. Reduce immigration to sustainable levels. At 0.5% of the population that would mean approx. 220,000 max. Not the 800,000 plus we're seeing.
2. Suck it up and get a trade deal done with the US
3. Get rid of DEI policy throughout the government. Bring CRA workers back to the office full time.
4. Work on removing interprovincial trade barriers. How can we espouse free trade with US and Mexico when we don't even do it domestically.
5. Control spending.
6. Improve productivity.
7. Use our extensive natural resource base to our advantage.
8. Judicial reform. Consecutive sentencing for violent crimes. A three strikes you're out policy.
9. Look long and hard at healthcare reform. Our Canada Health Act is antiquated.
10. Bring back wealth to this country with more favorable tax laws. Reduce the top marginal rate so nobody pays over 50% in income taxes.

I could go on.
 

Frankfooter

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1. Reduce immigration to sustainable levels. At 0.5% of the population that would mean approx. 220,000 max. Not the 800,000 plus we're seeing.
2. Suck it up and get a trade deal done with the US
3. Get rid of DEI policy throughout the government. Bring CRA workers back to the office full time.
4. Work on removing interprovincial trade barriers. How can we espouse free trade with US and Mexico when we don't even do it domestically.
5. Control spending.
6. Improve productivity.
7. Use our extensive natural resource base to our advantage.
8. Judicial reform. Consecutive sentencing for violent crimes. A three strikes you're out policy.
9. Look long and hard at healthcare reform. Our Canada Health Act is antiquated.
10. Bring back wealth to this country with more favorable tax laws. Reduce the top marginal rate so nobody pays over 50% in income taxes.

I could go on.
Most of those things are happening right now or are totally unrelated to wages.
Reducing the top marginal rate would be very unpopular and only add to debt.
We see this in Ontario where DoFo cuts spending but then cuts revenue even more resulting in way, way bigger deficits.

Immigration is lowered, you can't make a deal with trump, DEI makes us more competitive by including the full population, CRA crackdown should be on the higher income and trusts, inter provincial barriers are down, judicial reform is unneeded as crime is low and DoFo is already privatizing health care and all its doing is making it way more expensive to the province and its people.

This is the problem
 

boobtoucher

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1. Reduce immigration to sustainable levels. At 0.5% of the population that would mean approx. 220,000 max. Not the 800,000 plus we're seeing.
2. Suck it up and get a trade deal done with the US
3. Get rid of DEI policy throughout the government. Bring CRA workers back to the office full time.
4. Work on removing interprovincial trade barriers. How can we espouse free trade with US and Mexico when we don't even do it domestically.
5. Control spending.
6. Improve productivity.
7. Use our extensive natural resource base to our advantage.
8. Judicial reform. Consecutive sentencing for violent crimes. A three strikes you're out policy.
9. Look long and hard at healthcare reform. Our Canada Health Act is antiquated.
10. Bring back wealth to this country with more favorable tax laws. Reduce the top marginal rate so nobody pays over 50% in income taxes.

I could go on.
I love seeing people write down their news silos.
1:You're counting non-permanent residents. Students emigrate because provincial governments stopped funding colleges and unis. Workers emigrate because businesses misuse the TFW program. Fund post secondary education and put business owners in jail, and this problem is solved.
2: What if that trade deal puts unemployment to 15%? What if it means giving up rights to minerals/oil/whatever. How does that affect #7?
5: How? Be specific
6: How? Be specific
7: See (5) and (6). Are we doing a Norway and socializing the benefits of our resources, or are we just selling to the highest bidder and waiting on a trickledown?
8: This is unconstitutional. Why do you hate our constitution, and by extension this country?
9: Can you point to a specific thing you would change
10: You can not pay more than 50% income tax in Ontario. In every other province, you have to me making more than 253,000/year and taking NO deductions. If you're smart enough to make 250k, you should be smart enough to get your tax burden down.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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2. Suck it up and get a trade deal done with the US
Kowtowing to Nazis isn't going to improve your quality of life. It will make it worse.
3. Get rid of DEI policy throughout the government.
DEI improves quality of life, unless you only want to measure quality of life for rich white people, which we don't do.
8. Judicial reform. Consecutive sentencing for violent crimes. A three strikes you're out policy.
And massively increase prison population because that is going to solve issues, like we haven't learned from the shit hole down south with those exact same laws that don't work.
9. Look long and hard at healthcare reform. Our Canada Health Act is antiquated.
Agreed.
Coverage should be expanded to prescription drugs, dental, vision, mental healthcare, long term care and home care.
5. Control spending.
Government spending is the biggest contributor to quality of life.
So it needs to increase, not decrease.
PS: This does not include cutting wasteful spending.
6. Improve productivity.
For which we'd need young people, which we are short of.
That would require more immigration, that goes against, your #1.
10. Bring back wealth to this country with more favorable tax laws. Reduce the top marginal rate so nobody pays over 50% in income taxes.
Yes, let us increase debt too. That's a great idea.
And how would you fund healthcare and other services?
 

nottyboi

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1. Reduce immigration to sustainable levels. At 0.5% of the population that would mean approx. 220,000 max. Not the 800,000 plus we're seeing.
2. Suck it up and get a trade deal done with the US
3. Get rid of DEI policy throughout the government. Bring CRA workers back to the office full time.
4. Work on removing interprovincial trade barriers. How can we espouse free trade with US and Mexico when we don't even do it domestically.
5. Control spending.
6. Improve productivity.
7. Use our extensive natural resource base to our advantage.
8. Judicial reform. Consecutive sentencing for violent crimes. A three strikes you're out policy.
9. Look long and hard at healthcare reform. Our Canada Health Act is antiquated.
10. Bring back wealth to this country with more favorable tax laws. Reduce the top marginal rate so nobody pays over 50% in income taxes.

I could go on.
How do you get a trade deal with the USA when they have said CLEARLY they intend to destroy our car, steel and Alum industries? The rest is mostly tariff free or low tariff
 
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nottyboi

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  1. remove from office the fools (the liberal party of Canada) who created the problem
  2. shrink the size of government (federal and provincial) dramatically
  3. generate a surplus
  4. start to chip away at Justin's mountain of debt
  5. advise our children, grandchildren that their futures were destroyed by irresponsible loonie left fools & hope we can clean up this mess for the great grand kids
  6. sadly kiss universal health care goodbye
We had years of consecutive surpluses until Harper came to power.
 

JohnLarue

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I love seeing people write down their news silos.
too funny
i really love hate seeing socialist ignore reality
it is an indictment of our education system

1:You're counting non-permanent residents. Students emigrate because provincial governments stopped funding colleges and unis. Workers emigrate because businesses misuse the TFW program. Fund post secondary education and put business owners in jail, and this problem is solved.
so you separated immigrants into silos to justify unsustainable immigration

the bottom line is we have a housing crisis and our health care is being overwhelmed because the moron Justin Trudeau brought in too many people


2: What if that trade deal puts unemployment to 15%? What if it means giving up rights to minerals/oil/whatever. How does that affect #7?
what if there is no trade deal ?
75% of our exports go to the US
we are currently losing private sector companies and private sector jobs @ an alarming rate

Ontario is the largest non-soverign debtor in the world
Ontario is going to lose much of its auto sector tax base


5: How? Be specific
6: How? Be specific
both are self explanatory
5. federal public sector headcount is up 40% since 2015 our economy has grown 1% to 2% -- assuming you are educated figure it out
6. productivity can be greatly increased by rolling back the Trudeau regulations and eliminating the productivity killing / evil industrial carbon taxes
industrial carbon taxes will force small and midsized companies to relocate to the US or just stop operating


7: See (5) and (6). Are we doing a Norway and socializing the benefits of our resources, or are we just selling to the highest bidder and waiting on a trickledown?
Canada has tried national oil companies twice (1940s and 1980s)
both times they were miserable failures

Norway benefited from the exploration in the North Sea by UK based private sector oil firms
Norway also was very lucky in their timing and drilling program


you can not nationalize the oil industry
Alberta / Sask would separate immediately

besides the oil industry pours billions into govt coffers via royalties / taxes

govt's in Canada do no have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem

8: This is unconstitutional. Why do you hate our constitution, and by extension this country?
crime has become a serious problem in Canada
Why do you hate victims of crime, the law abiding population and by extension this country?


9: Can you point to a specific thing you would change
a) the bureaucracy in our health care system consumes huge amounts of tax payer dollars leaving less for doctors nurses, equipment and medicine
b) lower immigration is required >>> reduce some utilization pressure FYI we have an aging population, health care utilization is going to increase dramatically
universal health care will become unsustainable in Canada soon- you can thank Justin Trudeau for that

10: You can not pay more than 50% income tax in Ontario. In every other province, you have to me making more than 253,000/year and taking NO deductions. If you're smart enough to make 250k, you should be smart enough to get your tax burden down.
50% or anywhere near 50% is a massive disincentive to invest / work harder/ grow your business/ take on operational / financial risk

you obviously day dream of a utopian socialist world and have not even casually considered the risks / realty of your false utopian fantasy
 
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