As I said before, they are a political deterrent to prevent a Russian invasion. To paraphrase Clausewitz, political acts can stop the continuation to war.
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Actually they fled for their lives in amid a civil war, and the Israel govt passed laws along racial lines to size the property of arabs. Then they refuse to allow the displaces people back completing their partial ethnic cleansing and ensuring a jewish majority for their jewish state....Now they are just waiting for those people to die and for their claims to die with them. Fuji will disingenuously claim offers of compensation have been made, but those are very vague and have all kinds of impossible conditions attached that is a polite way of saying "when hell freezes over"Nope. You are lying. That is not what happened. The Palestinians themselves left after losing the illegal abs racist war they started.
Untrue. Most of them left before Jewish forces were in their area. Arabs who stayed for full citizenship and were well treated.Actually they fled for their lives in amid a civil war
...The Palestinians and Arab states (except Jordan and Egypt) still refuse to make peace from the war the declared.Actually they fled for their lives in amid a civil war, and ...
And no matter how you want to spin it, Olmert's offer in 2008 was completely in line with what the UN, Quartet, and Arab League see as fair. No 'impossible conditions' unless you agree with Franky that Hamas should keep their weapons.
My mistake, those same articles are available from multiple sources, I was looking for the documents and didn't check the source.Man that is one fucking disgusting white supremacist site you are quoting from. Why am I not surprised that is where you get you version of reality from?
Apologies.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/26/british-secret-documents-palestine-partition
and the originals can be found here.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/
Nonsense, those same Jewish terrorists became members of the Israeli government.BTW. Arab terrorism against Jews dates back to 1919, long before there were any Jewish terror groups. And as fuji mentioned, one of the first acts of the Israeli government was to forcibly disarm the Jewish terror groups. When it comes to Palestinians though, you think disarming terrorists is an impossible condition. Your support of Palestinian terrorists groups right to attack Jews isn't surprising considering the hate sites you read.
Which, according to you, should justify all kinds of heinous war crimes and attacks on Israel since they are 'terrorists'.
Double standards?
First, not nonsense. Organized Arab terrorism against Jews started in 1919. There were no Jewish terrorists for another decade....
Nonsense, those same Jewish terrorists became members of the Israeli government.
Which, according to you, should justify all kinds of heinous war crimes and attacks on Israel since they are 'terrorists'.
Double standards?
Second there is no double standard. I have repeatedly stated that for peace to happen, Hamas needs to become a purely political organization and give up on terrorism. If Hamas were to give up on terrorism and be involved in peace negotiations, I would be fine if the Hamas terrorists are given an amnesty as has happened in numerous conflicts around the world. For some reason though you disagree with Hamas disarming and agree with your friends at the national vanguard that attacks on Jewish civilians aren't worth commenting on.
Are you trying to claim that Jewish terrorism is totally acceptable because there was Arab terrorism as well?First, not nonsense. Organized Arab terrorism against Jews started in 1919. There were no Jewish terrorists for another decade.
By that argument you should have no problem with Hamas terrorism now, since clearly there was Jewish terrorism before that.
Total garbage argument.
So you excuse Jewish terrorism then try to blame the lack on peace on Palestinian terrorism.Second there is no double standard. I have repeatedly stated that for peace to happen, Hamas needs to become a purely political organization and give up on terrorism. If Hamas were to give up on terrorism and be involved in peace negotiations, I would be fine if the Hamas terrorists are given an amnesty as has happened in numerous conflicts around the world. For some reason though you disagree with Hamas disarming and agree with your friends at the national vanguard that attacks on Jewish civilians aren't worth commenting on.
Total double standard.
The fact of the matter is that Hamas lives under Israeli military occupation and Hamas has no say in whether peace happens until Israel decides to end the occupation.
More of your ridiculous lies. I have criticized terrorism no matter the source. You on the other hand have been extremely reluctant to describe Hamas bombing a bus or shooting up a restaurant as terrorism and have repeatedly objected to Hamas terrorists being disarmed.Are you trying to claim that Jewish terrorism is totally acceptable because there was Arab terrorism as well?...
But you are right. Hamas is significantly to blame for the lack of peace. Even though you keep trying to pretend that they are moral and upstanding, they refuse to even negotiate peace and continuously engage in and praise terrorism against Jewish civilians.
Israel elected Netanyahu based on his promise to never allow the two state solution to happen.More of your ridiculous lies. I have criticized terrorism no matter the source. You on the other hand have been extremely reluctant to describe Hamas bombing a bus or shooting up a restaurant as terrorism and have repeatedly objected to Hamas terrorists being disarmed.
But you are right. Hamas is significantly to blame for the lack of peace. Even though you keep trying to pretend that they are moral and upstanding, they refuse to even negotiate peace and continuously engage in and praise terrorism against Jewish civilians.
That's the reason there are no peace talks, the two state solution is dead and you are left backing an apartheid Israel.
Hamas had nothing to do with those choices, Israel has been in control of the drive to apartheid.
Keep repeating that bullshit line. You well know Netanyahu said a Two state peace is impossible as long as Islamist groups like Hamas hold sway.Israel elected Netanyahu based on his promise to never allow the two state solution to happen.
That's the reason there are no peace talks, the two state solution is dead and you are left backing an apartheid Israel.
Hamas had nothing to do with those choices, Israel has been in control of the drive to apartheid.
Hamas is a terrorist group that continues to commit terror attacks and who praises other terror attacks yet somehow they get your backing.
Here is how Netanyahu's statement was reported in Israel.Keep repeating that bullshit line. You well know Netanyahu said a Two state peace is impossible as long as Islamist groups like Hamas hold sway.
You are lying your face off, sir.Netanyahu: If I'm Elected, There Will Be No Palestinian State
In a definitive disavowal of his Bar-Ilan two-state speech, prime minister makes last-minute attempt to draw voters from Bennett's Habayit Hayeudi.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.647212
It depends upon what type of troops they are.Should Canada really send them all?
Merely a reinforced Infantry Company isn't going to do much, particularly since they are going to have to be melded into a larger (British or American) unit for operational purposes.
False. How many times have we caught you telling this lie? You are clearly very comfortable lying and in fact you think lying is an acceptablev debating strategy.Israel elected Netanyahu based on his promise to never allow the two state solution to happen.
Compound lie. There are no talks because Abbas refuses to meet, Israel is not apartheid and no one backs apartheid.That's the reason there are no peace talks, the two state solution is dead and you are left backing an apartheid Israel.
Hamas is the obstacle to peace, so Hamas does have a lot to do with it.Hamas had nothing to do with those choices, Israel has been in control of the drive to apartheid.
Read your own link. Will not give away territory to Islamist extremists (aka Hamas).Here is how Netanyahu's statement was reported in Israel.
You are lying your face off, sir.
The Hamas group we are talking about are still committing terror attacks and still praising terror attacks. Of course you (and the National Vanguard) are okay with that because they are killing Jews.
This is what it says:Read your own link. Will not give away territory to Islamist extremists (aka Hamas).
You are still lying your face off.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyhau said Monday that if he were to be reelected, a Palestinian state would not be created,
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.647212
The reason that Israel is a one state, apartheid nation is because that's what they've wanted to do.
They are, after all, running the occupation.
You actually know you are lying and you have consciously chosen to lie. How many dozens is times have you tried this lie? At one point you even admitted that's not what he said but then you went right back to lying again.This is what it says:
You are still lying your face off.
The reason that Israel is a one state, apartheid nation is because that's what they've wanted to do.
They are, after all, running the occupation.
What he actually said is there won't be a Palestinian state so long as armed terrorists control Palestinian land.
Damn you are amusing.This is what it says:
You are still lying your face off.
The reason that Israel is a one state, apartheid nation is because that's what they've wanted to do.
They are, after all, running the occupation.
"I think that anyone who moves to establish a Palestinian state and evacuate territory gives territory away to radical Islamist attacks against Israel," Netanyahu said.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.647212
That just confirms that Netanyahu will never allow the two state solution to happen, for whatever reason.Damn you are amusing.
"I think that anyone who moves to establish a Palestinian state and evacuate territory gives territory away to radical Islamist attacks against Israel," Netanyahu said.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.647212
He also apparently thought the White House was trying to rig the last elections there as well, the man is a kook.
Regardless, its Netanyahu who has killed the two state solution and cemented the apartheid state of Israel.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyhau said Monday that if he were to be reelected, a Palestinian state would not be created,
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.647212
