Except that the Soviets had an official policy of Russification where they intentionally sent colonists to replace the existing ethnic community and received massive preferential treatment. Any group that objected found themselves being relocated to Siberia or starved into oblivion. That is what happened to most of the Tatars in Crimea and significant numbers in the West including the Ukraine. The worst example was Kaliningrad/Königsberg where the entire population was expelled and replaced with Russians.
Canada to base 450 troops in Latvia to stop Russia...
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p.s. Why don't you lobby for Palestinian descendants in places like Lebanon and Syria to get full citizenship? Oh I know. Politics is more important than moral consistency....
PS: for ethnic Russians living in Latvia it wasn't even a choice for their grandparents to move there. In the soviet union people couldn't choose their place of residence. ...
Bullshit. At best they don't feel included but that has something to do with spending almost 70 years without rights in the country of their birth.1- Palestinians living in Lebanon don't call Lebanon home
Not according to polling. The majority want to settle in the country of their birth or live in Palestine. Less than a quarter want to become Israeli. But sure, go ahead and make excuses for atrocious treatment from people who just a few tears ago were fellow Ottoman Arabs.and want to return to their homeland.
Yes, Russians in Latvia should be able to get citizenship but the language requirements are reasonable. Most importantly, it does not justify yet another of Putin's invasions.
There's a clear path to citizenship for Russians in Latvia. Learn the local language. A majority of them are now citizens having followed that path.1- Palestinians living in Lebanon don't call Lebanon home and want to return to their homeland. Russian latvians consider Latvia their home , Russian government allow them to return to Russia but most of them want to stay in Latvia. Huge difference. Why do you want to settle Palestinians against their will in a country where they don't want to be ?
There is NO path to citizenship for Palestinians in Lebanon. Despite having been there for generations they are kept in camps, denied jobs, refused access to the same schools and hospitals.
It's not a choice they are making, they are segregated by the state and prevented from becoming citizens no matter what they do.
You really are caught in a hypocritical lie here.
I see no problem with an independent Quebec requiring French as a criteria for citizenship. Learn French if you want to live in Quebec.You didn't answer this:
Would you agree with Quebec separatists doing the same thing with English speaking minority , if the get their Independence from Canada ?
Again, there is a clear path to citizenship and a majority of Russians there are citizens. The path remains open for the rest.
Compare to some of your other positions:
1. You believe Jews whose ancestors were not in Israel prior to 1917 should be ethnically cleansed
2. You don't have any problem with the Syrians and Lebanese denying generations of Palestinians ANY path to citizenship
But you have a problem with Latvia making the illegal Russian colonizers learn Latvian to get citizenship?
You are full of shit.
No one has said they should be cleansed, liar. They are welcome to stay as permanent residents and they are welcome to become citizens.Where did I say this ? You're really dishonest . And you have no issue with Basketcase who believes that any Russian who wasn't in Latvia before 1940 should be ethnically cleansed
Meanwhile you are running in panic from your hypocrisy, deleting from posts you reply to any mention of the fact that Palestinians are denied citizenship by Syria and Lebanon and, unlike Russians in Latvia, offered NO path to citizenship.
Why can't they learn French? If that's the national language it would seem right to have it as a requirement for citizenship. If like Latvia that are welcome to stay as permanent residents if they don't want to, then so what?Even for English who lived there since 18 century and Aboriginals who lived there thousands of years before the French?
Why do you expect lebanese and Syrians to solve problems created by Israel ?
PS:The majority of palestinian refugees living in Syria already left, now other countries like Turkey, Sweden , Germany and even Canada that are taking them are fixing problems created by Israel
You have tried this lie before and other then blatant hate there is no excuse for you to lie like this again. You sure a fraud and you whole outlook is based on hate and lies.
Fact is that Syria and Lebanon and the other Arab states are the cause of the problem, having started the ILLEGAL war that created the refugees. Israel on the other hand settled hundreds of thousands of refugees and welcomed all Palestinians who chose to stay as full citizens.
Your non stop hate lies are disgusting.
More fucking lies. The Balfour declaration didn't displace anybody nor did partition. All you do is lie.Actually you're describing what Brits did in Mandatory Palestine , intentionally sending European colonists to replace the Arab population and were successful in achieving this in 1948, Russians didn't ethnically cleanse Latvians like what happened with palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
Balfour Declaration
His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object,
I truly pray that V.V. Putin unambiguously grasps the reality of article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty (and that Donald Trump likewise does so)!
If they want to vote they should become citizens. Efficient they can, if they want to.This undemocratic because they aren't allowed to vote or to work in government and more important they are kept statelss wich is agiant international law . We know that you like apartheid regimes, but a real democracy is one man one vote
I see you are running in a panic from discussing the fact that Palestinians in Lebanon are denied the right to vote and have no path to citizenship.
You are an extraordinarily dishonest troll, deleting stuff you cannot reply to, while posting your troll replies against cherry picked phrases you use use to segue to your bullshit.
Your have no credibility having failed to answer for your hypocrisy in comparing the lot of Palestinians in Lebanon to the Russians in Latvia.
You lose.
Nope. You are lying. That is not what happened. The Palestinians themselves left after losing the illegal abs racist war they started.Balfour goals were achieved 30 years later by displacing almost one million of palestinians to make room for foreign settlers from Europe
I love how instead of arguing a consistent point of view you just call people dishonest. The last poll of Palestinian refugees was in 2003 and only 23% said they wanted to become Israeli. Try looking things up instead of making it up.You're really dishonest, where did you get this poll that says that the majority of palestinians gave up their right of return ? They don't want to be an Israeli or they want to live in Israel under another status doesn't mean they gave up their right of return
Latvia gained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991 and gave all residents the option of citizenship. Many Ethnic Russians chose not to be citizens. End of story.
Another flat out lie from you. Is this the only way you can debate things?Where did I say this ? You're really dishonest . And you have no issue with Basketcase who believes that any Russian who wasn't in Latvia before 1940 should be ethnically cleansed
...their invasion.Why do you expect lebanese and Syrians to solve problems created by ...
Syria and Lebanon were among those who refused the UN Partition and invaded. Damn right they should be part of the solution.
And no matter how you want to frame things, Arab states have kept their brethren stateless and without even basic rights.
Actually you have shown repeatedly that you are both ignorant of actual history and are happy to continue malicious lies.Actually ...
BTW. The Brits also established numerous Arab states after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and transplanted foreign Arabs to rule them. For some reason that doesn't bother you.
The first to refuse the partition were the Jewish terrorists who started fighting before partition....their invasion.
Syria and Lebanon were among those who refused the UN Partition and invaded. Damn right they should be part of the solution.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/26/british-secret-documents-palestine-partition
As you note, its legit to fight terrorism.
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Israel disarmed the terrorists at gunpoint.The first to refuse the partition were the Jewish terrorists who started fighting before partition.
http://nationalvanguard.org/2016/09/uk-secret-1940s-files-on-jewish-terror-opened-to-public-view/
As you note, its legit to fight terrorism.
I see token military postings like this in the same way as the practice of taking women and children as human shields. No civilized person would dare shoot at such a shield.
No one believes that the Canadian contingent would be relevant to any shooting conflict. However, if our weak Canadian contingent were to take fire while engaging in some security operation, that would get a lot more sympathy and support than if the same happened to an American outfit.
In other words, the Canadians are there as potential lead sponges.
No one believes that the Canadian contingent would be relevant to any shooting conflict. However, if our weak Canadian contingent were to take fire while engaging in some security operation, that would get a lot more sympathy and support than if the same happened to an American outfit.
In other words, the Canadians are there as potential lead sponges.
Man that is one fucking disgusting white supremacist site you are quoting from. Why am I not surprised that is where you get you version of reality from?The first to refuse the partition were the Jewish terrorists who started fighting before partition.
http://nationalvanguard.org/2016/09/uk-secret-1940s-files-on-jewish-terror-opened-to-public-view/
As you note, its legit to fight terrorism.
BTW. Arab terrorism against Jews dates back to 1919, long before there were any Jewish terror groups. And as fuji mentioned, one of the first acts of the Israeli government was to forcibly disarm the Jewish terror groups. When it comes to Palestinians though, you think disarming terrorists is an impossible condition. Your support of Palestinian terrorists groups right to attack Jews isn't surprising considering the hate sites you read.
