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There are lots of OECD health care studies out there in the last decade and IIRC all of them place Canada near dead last. We're 1 or 2 higher than the US usually.
OECD health care studies only collect data from 11 countries but it is true that we score generally 1 or 2 higher then the US in those studies.
The commonwealth fund explains the OECD data in a simplified manner compared to the thousands of pages in the OECD reports.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pu...2021/aug/mirror-mirror-2021-reflecting-poorly
The Legatum Institute, a London-based think tank, has also evaluated where to find the best healthcare in the world.
They placed Canada at 32ND with the US at 69TH out of 167 countries.
https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/
https://www.prosperity.com/rankings
 
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Only Newsweek rank TGH and sunnybrook .

TGH has 2 MRI machine and one PET scan. Look elsewhere except Newsweek .
From your link on the methodology used to create the rankings by webometrics, basically the ranking is the hospitals web presence concerning published articles and has nothing to do with healthcare.
"Methodology used to create the rankings. The unit for analysis is the institutional domain, so only that Hospitals with an independent web domain are considered."
"With these rankings we intend to provide extra motivation to researchers worldwide for publishing more and better scientific content on the Web, making it available to colleagues and people wherever they are located."
Elsewhere than Newsweek.
Based on a survey of 30 medical professionals across 30 countries, publicly available hospital quality data and results from patient surveys, Toronto General Hospital placed third in the world in 2024, up from fifth in 2023.
https://r.statista.com/en/healthcare/best-hospitals-world-2023/ranking/
https://www.statista.com/chart/2699...ommendations-patient-experience-medical-kpis/
Seventh on this one in 2022. Newest ranking I could find from them
https://www.sip.ch/the-10-best-hospitals-in-the-world/
Fourth on this one 2022. newest ranking I could find from them.
ranked on:
Patient satisfaction
Bed occupancy rates
Staff to patient ratios
International accreditation
https://www.expatriatehealthcare.com/10-of-the-best-hospitals-in-the-world-2022/
I believe that since Statistica and Newsweek released their rankings others quit doing their rankings, that is just my thought anyways.
 
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Yes and no. It is definitely better now for women and a small group of alpha males. In some other respects, as I have shown before in Statscan graphs, some things were better almost 50 years ago.
 

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From your link on the methodology used to create the rankings by webometrics, basically the ranking is the hospitals web presence concerning published articles and has nothing to do with healthcare.
"Methodology used to create the rankings. The unit for analysis is the institutional domain, so only that Hospitals with an independent web domain are considered."
"With these rankings we intend to provide extra motivation to researchers worldwide for publishing more and better scientific content on the Web, making it available to colleagues and people wherever they are located."
Elsewhere than Newsweek.
Based on a survey of 30 medical professionals across 30 countries, publicly available hospital quality data and results from patient surveys, Toronto General Hospital placed third in the world in 2024, up from fifth in 2023.
https://r.statista.com/en/healthcare/best-hospitals-world-2023/ranking/
https://www.statista.com/chart/2699...ommendations-patient-experience-medical-kpis/
Seventh on this one in 2022. Newest ranking I could find from them
https://www.sip.ch/the-10-best-hospitals-in-the-world/
Fourth on this one 2022. newest ranking I could find from them.
ranked on:
Patient satisfaction
Bed occupancy rates
Staff to patient ratios
International accreditation
https://www.expatriatehealthcare.com/10-of-the-best-hospitals-in-the-world-2022/
I believe that since Statistica and Newsweek released their rankings others quit doing their rankings, that is just my thought anyways.
I disagree with the list
 

PeteOsborne

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We agree to disagree.
Sure, you can go ahead and disagree with data collected worldwide.
By the way, since we are talking the best in the world, did you know the Ford F150 has been the number1 best selling truck in the world for 47 consecutive years?
 

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500 bucks per household, per year, is "extremely inflationary"? Like there is nothing else like supply chain issues, wars etc that cause inflation, but damn, the carbon tax does? Why because it is Trudeau? If 500 bucks is too hard for you, just see 1 SP less, per year and you are good.
Do you deny Canadians are getting hammered by inflation?
every good you buy spends time on a truck, rail car and / or plane
food production is also very energy intensive

you talk about supply chain issues like you are in the know, except you ignore how energy intensive supply chains are

the caron tax intentionally drives energy inflation
energy inflation drives goods inflation, (particularly food inflation)
goods inflation (particularly food and rent / shelter inflation) fuels wage inflation.
do you understand the concept of compounding ?

Wage inflation is very difficult to tamp down without running the risk of creating a recession and a lot of job losses

This foolish govt policy works in opposition to the Bank of Canadas efforts to maintain price stability.
That is stupid and irresponsible

so yes the carbon tax is extremely inflationary & the moron Justin Trudeau has compounded this disaster by growing immigration, without consideration for where all the new citizens are to be housed.
i.e. rent / shelter inflation... gee another multiplier

and then there is the adittional hidden tax on energy -
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Hidden gas taxes drive up pump prices in Ontario: Report
https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom?category=271

The federal carbon tax currently costs 14 cents per litre of gasoline. The federal government imposed a second carbon tax through fuel regulations that took effect on July 1. By 2030, when the fuel regulations are fully implemented, the two carbon taxes will increase the price of gasoline by about 55 cents per litre and cost the average Ontario family more than $2,300 annually.
you are delusional if you think the true cost of the Carbon Tax is covered by rebate cheques ........for anyone

If 500 bucks is too hard for you, just see 1 SP less, per year and you are good
there is nothing good about this inflationary tax
 
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OECD health care studies only collect data from 11 countries but it is true that we score generally 1 or 2 higher then the US in those studies.
The commonwealth fund explains the OECD data in a simplified manner compared to the thousands of pages in the OECD reports.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pu...2021/aug/mirror-mirror-2021-reflecting-poorly
The Legatum Institute, a London-based think tank, has also evaluated where to find the best healthcare in the world.
They placed Canada at 32ND with the US at 69TH out of 167 countries.
https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/
https://www.prosperity.com/rankings
out of curiosity how do they measure
OECD health care studies only collect data from 11 countries but it is true that we score generally 1 or 2 higher then the US in those studies.
The commonwealth fund explains the OECD data in a simplified manner compared to the thousands of pages in the OECD reports.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pu...2021/aug/mirror-mirror-2021-reflecting-poorly
The Legatum Institute, a London-based think tank, has also evaluated where to find the best healthcare in the world.
They placed Canada at 32ND with the US at 69TH out of 167 countries.
https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/
https://www.prosperity.com/rankings

Do any of them also weight cost per capita instead of just share of gdp? I just skimmed quickly and seems like they are just weighing “deliverables”.
 

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Most are deliverables because that's what's the most important when you're reciving healthcare right? IIRC, cost per capita, Canada is WAY above the US but not exciting placed in the OECD pack.
that just it though isn’t. If you are buying X.
A sell it for major than B. Who you going to buy from?

maybe we rank middle of the pack, but have the lowest cost per capita. Or vice versa. Or any combination in between . Helps get a clear picture doesn’t it?
 

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Do you deny Canadians are getting hammered by inflation?
every good you buy spends time on a truck, rail car and / or plane
food production is also very energy intensive

you talk about supply chain issues like you are in the know, except you ignore how energy intensive supply chains are

the caron tax intentionally drives energy inflation
energy inflation drives goods inflation, (particularly food inflation)
goods inflation (particularly food and rent / shelter inflation) fuels wage inflation.
do you understand the concept of compounding ?

Wage inflation is very difficult to tamp down without running the risk of creating a recession and a lot of job losses

This foolish govt policy works in opposition to the Bank of Canadas efforts to maintain price stability.
That is stupid and irresponsible

so yes the carbon tax is extremely inflationary & the moron Justin Trudeau has compounded this disaster by growing immigration, without consideration for where all the new citizens are to be housed.
i.e. rent / shelter inflation... gee another multiplier

and then there is the adittional hidden tax on energy -
.
https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom?category=271



you are delusional if you think the true cost of the Carbon Tax is covered by rebate cheques ........for anyone



there is nothing good about this inflationary tax
Well, look at that. A proper answer by John Larue. :eek:

Now the only question is, how much is this impact to inflation. This report seems to indicate that 0.15 percentage points increase to inflation due to the carbon tax, which would make it a factor, but not the main driver of inflation. So seems a bit blown out of proportion.


Hadrian Mertins-Kirkwood, a senior researcher at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, described Scheer’s framing of Macklem’s comments as “misleading” because Scheer’s math suggests the carbon price increased inflation by 0.6 percentage points this year alone, however Macklem said the average year-over-year increase is 0.15.

Macklem made that point clear to the House committee as well. The 0.6 percentage point decrease would only last one year “and because you can only eliminate it once, the next year it would have no effect on inflation,” Macklem told the committee. On an annual basis, the carbon price adds about 0.15 percentage points to inflation, 0.6 is the estimated impact over the carbon price’s lifetime, he added.

A 0.6 percentage point decrease in inflation for one year doesn't structurally solve the inflation problem,
said Mertins-Kirkwood. “It wouldn't really be a meaningful contribution to dealing with inflation.”


The roughly 0.15 percentage point increase to the inflation rate is “not nothing,” Mertins-Kirkwood noted, but said it's also “not a main driver.”
 
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