Can the virus go from the upstairs of the house to the basement?
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Contact your local health unit. This is a porn board full of so much ignorance. Pick a thread and see for yourselves.
I agree about not taking health recommendations from this forum or any forum. Check out government and health web resources or contact your public health officials.
Having said that I will give some thoughts with that warning in mind but I encourage you to independent verify eveyrbing. The virus spreads by droplets or contact. Just by talking you can spread droplets. Sneezing is magnified of course. The mask alsk helps against contact by preventing you touching your face with your hands that may been contaminated. That’s why doctors wear face shields as well.
While the virus is not airborne as in it doesent travel or vector via air but rather droplets it Can still travel in the air via the droplets. That’s why hospitals use negative pressure rooms. Now the virus spreading through air ducts multiple floors in a building is not likely in my opinion but I don’t know the details of these things.
Having said that I will give some thoughts with that warning in mind but I encourage you to independent verify eveyrbing. The virus spreads by droplets or contact. Just by talking you can spread droplets. Sneezing is magnified of course. The mask alsk helps against contact by preventing you touching your face with your hands that may been contaminated. That’s why doctors wear face shields as well.
While the virus is not airborne as in it doesent travel or vector via air but rather droplets it Can still travel in the air via the droplets. That’s why hospitals use negative pressure rooms. Now the virus spreading through air ducts multiple floors in a building is not likely in my opinion but I don’t know the details of these things.
I emailed public health, asking the question this is what they sent back:
The best way to prevent infection is to avoid being exposed. Prevention measures include:
Ø Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 15 seconds. If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer
Ø Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands
Ø Avoid close contact with people who are ill
Ø Stay home when you are ill
Ø Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then immediately throw the tissue in the garbage and wash your hands
Ø If you don’t have a tissue, sneeze or cough into your sleeve or arm
Ø Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces
Ø Toronto’s Medical Officer of Health is recommending social distancing as a way to minimize COVID-19 transmission in the community.
There is an ongoing discussion on the usefulness of masks for the general public.
I think the good thing about masks is that they can help prevent infected people from spreading the virus, especially those who are asymptomatic and thinking they are safe.
Masks do very little in preventing infection if people are practicing proper social distancing and other precautions like sneezing into your sleeve and not touching your face.
Go to video time: 10:30
PS: Also go to 10:30 the latest data from MIT on covid-19 debunked the useless misinformation you getting from your doctor & mainstream media and WHO
Yes we get useless / outdated info like coved-19 not airborne on this board!
If the virus was airborne, there would be no point in trying to contain it.
The social distance guidelines assume that people are not behaving like inconsiderate ignorant assholes.
Of course is someone sneezes in a way for maximum projection, the distance would need to be greater.
Bottomline you need to protect yourself from getting until the curve is flatten. So that way if you the one needing a ventilator and the curve is flatten you have a chance to live if the hospital is overwhelmed.
Everyone wear a mask in public.
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Please share this video to everyone! Email , text by phone showing youtube, or twitter it or Facebook it , post it on chat board . Help it go viral in Canada , etc, we need to save lives and our economy..
Follow everything in the video .
PS Help flatten the curve! Prevent a global recession or depression saved the economy and saved lives!
Fuck the politics ( left or right). TIme put aside our differences and united to fight the common enemy ( covid-19) ... time to do what right! This is common sense!
masks prevents transfer if you're sharing a room with enough proximity. I don't think the virus travels by itself. It gets transfered by one hand to another. If there's an infected upstairs, it's no concern if they don't have common contact areas. If you decide to call the health hotline, they will tell you the same thing. let the infected person self isolate and never come into close contact at all cost.
They need to add mask & eye protection when you go out in public also. Only go out if you have to for drugs & food. Try to stock up food as much as possible and that way you don't have to go out more offen to get foods. Less trip going outside equal,less chance of making a mistakes and getting infected.
It logic and common sense reduce your risk , stay the fuck home ! Wear mask!
Plus wear a mask & eye protection ( eye goggles) when you go out in public to get drug & food when you have no choice .
Guess Toronto Public Health is giving outdated info!
Totally useless govt ministry giving outdated info!
Totally useless this governments organization! I remember in January & Feburary they says not to worry it only then Flu, Just wash your hands!
PS USA CDC now recommend the public wear a mask when going out. And not purchases N95 mask leave it for Frontline Health worker.
Mask is good see post # 9. Wear a mask & eye protection! When you come back from store then you wash your hands also. Disinfect the goceries bags & all the boxes that may be containment with viruses. Wash all your vegetables with soap & water. Wipe down the boxes , food packages , bags with bleaches.
Throw all your clothes in the washing machine. Wash your hands, Take a shower , wash your hair. Lysol every things runner shoes , jackets, etc . Lysol the car seats ! Lysol the entrance of the door where you come in .
That would be 100% safe. Error in the side of caution! Reason you don't know if some got it and sneeze all over your food when they stock the shelves. Or when it airborne all the virus cloud particle will fall down from the air onto the food or food packages on the shelves . Please rewatch the video.
So according to your video the virus can fly thru a sneeze (cloud) for 100 FT. So apartment buildings air ducts can transport the cloud around the building into apartments..then we're fucked. I don't know about that.
If someone upstairs get sick . That means everyone in the house wear a mask! Especially the sick person. The sick person must be isolated from everyone else. Creates an isolation room. Sick person must uses separate bathroom. Eat separately. Everything the infected person touch must be disinfect.
Everything must be wipe down with bleach! Everywhere she go out of her room must be Lysol. Preferably
She stay in her room until she is well and only if her test come back negative after when she got well and showing no more symptoms. Then she safe to leave the isolation room, you created.
Latest study show virus particle from coved-19 travel through hospital vents also.
My suggestion don't use heating vents don't turn it on .
Get a good portable heater like from Canadian tire use that instead.
Remember you also could be infected showing no symptoms, best you wash your hands, and wear a mask if you decide to see the relative in the basement.
Always errors in the side of caution. Since you getting too much mix messages from Heath professionals, mainstream media. The errors in the side of caution is time consuming but it is doable, the alternative is someone get sick and dies. It a hassle to do all those step , but in the end is all doeable.
Don't turn on the heating vent.
Remmeber at the beginning in Jan / Feb and early march, these health offfical & govt !
WHO and mainstream media . Said " Not to worrry it only the flu" and keep quoting More people die of the flu then covid-19. THen " Not to worry! just keep washing your Hand".
Now look what happened cities get locked down / country get lock down. Stock market crashes ,
They all screw up govt ( left or right).
PS . The only countries who did well in my books are Tawain, sSingapore, South Korea, and Japan in this fiasco. can also maybe add in Czech Repulic.
TAwain get a A+ or a gold star in my book !
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Sad to see such a generic response from the public health folks, of course all they are saying is good advice. And they kind of have their hands full at the moment so personal replies are rare I would suspect. If the person in the basement does not share any common living areas that would be good. A separate entrance to their basement apartment would be even better. If they do share common spaces everyone needs to disinfect common areas after each use and wash hands afterwards. That is sound advice regardless for all. Wearing masks is getting more and more recommendations and a MUST if anyone has symptoms or positive test. Masks are hard to come by, if you have none there are many resources online on how to make homemade masks, I am fairly certain Health Canada and Ontario sites also have info on making masks.
The virus is not airborne, but the droplets a person expels talking, coughing or sneezing can carry the virus and it is a common way COVID is spread. Air ducts may or may not carry sufficient volume of the virus to cause infection, there is still ongoing research as everyone is learning about this. Concentrated droplets travel less than 2 meters, aerosol (essentially fine mist droplets) can travel further but the general thought is that the concentration of the virus is too weak to infect past 2 meters. Still unproven and a good reason to mask up.
As others mentioned, this is not the place for potentially life saving information. Health Canada and Ontario resources are much better places for trusted information. Always err on the side of caution. If you clean too much than needed you'll have a cleaner house. If you use masks too often you'll only be out a few bucks. Pretty reasonable trade off in these times I'd say.
The virus is not airborne, but the droplets a person expels talking, coughing or sneezing can carry the virus and it is a common way COVID is spread. Air ducts may or may not carry sufficient volume of the virus to cause infection, there is still ongoing research as everyone is learning about this. Concentrated droplets travel less than 2 meters, aerosol (essentially fine mist droplets) can travel further but the general thought is that the concentration of the virus is too weak to infect past 2 meters. Still unproven and a good reason to mask up.
As others mentioned, this is not the place for potentially life saving information. Health Canada and Ontario resources are much better places for trusted information. Always err on the side of caution. If you clean too much than needed you'll have a cleaner house. If you use masks too often you'll only be out a few bucks. Pretty reasonable trade off in these times I'd say.
If the virus is airborne, why are people wearing masks that are not air tight filters?
Why were there no flights with mass infections?
