Calais residents terrified over 3rd night of clashes between police & migrats

[Smallcock]

While it is easy to gravitate towards a hidden agendas and make claims that we are against Muslims, view all Syrian refugees as terrorists or hate them is absurd.
fbi-no-way-to-screen-refugees-coming-to-u-s
http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/10/fbi-no-way-to-screen-refugees-coming-to-u-s/

"For the second time this year, the FBI has warned Congress that admitting people displaced by the Syrian civil war into the U.S. is a highly dubious venture, fraught with risks that terrorist fighters could slip in posing as “refugees.”

Who cares what an organization like the FBI thinks about threats to public safety.

Final thought: If we admit these refugees we deserve any negative consequences that stem from the decision. Naive compassion is unacceptable.

 

[onceaday]

I have seen one too many videos and other direct accounts of what is happening in Europe and most specifically in Sweden and Germany with these migrants. I have very close friends living in Sweden and they are truly freaked out about the crime, rapes, and assaults that are happening with growing frequency, especially in Malmo where they live. Some of it is truly jaw dropping. Unlike others have said above this is not about a collection of hard right bigots and Islamophobes. These are normal people who generally fear for their safety. There is clear evidence that this "experiment" in Europe has repercussions that will haunt the EU for decades if not permanently. I don't see how they can possibly get the Genie back in the bottle. Sweden's economy will be a mess across the board. This is what happens if a properly thought out screening process is not established. These misty eyed "progressives" who want to open the floodgates are a danger to all of us and of course themselves. We need to tread very carefully on this in Canada.

 

[SkyRider]

"For the second time this year, the FBI has warned Congress that admitting people displaced by the Syrian civil war into the U.S. is a highly dubious venture, fraught with risks that terrorist fighters could slip in posing as “refugees.”

I have seen one too many videos and other direct accounts of what is happening in Europe and most specifically in Sweden and Germany with these migrants. I have very close friends living in Sweden and they are truly freaked out about the crime, rapes, and assaults that are happening with growing frequency, especially in Malmo where they live. Some of it is truly jaw dropping. Unlike others have said above this is not about a collection of hard right bigots and Islamophobes. These are normal people who generally fear for their safety. There is clear evidence that this "experiment" in Europe has repercussions that will haunt the EU for decades if not permanently. I don't see how they can possibly get the Genie back in the bottle. Sweden's economy will be a mess across the board. This is what happens if a properly thought out screening process is not established. These misty eyed "progressives" who want to open the floodgates are a danger to all of us and of course themselves. We need to tread very carefully on this in Canada.

Prime Minister Trudeau says this is fear mongering and talking about it is divisive and racist.

 

[JackBurton]

First of all, you are not correct that Syria's neighbours have not accepted even one refugee. According to estimates as of April 2015, there are over 2.1 million Syrian refugees in Turkey, more than any other country, and about 1.2 million refugees in Lebanon (both neighbours of Turkey), as well as an additional 600000 Syrian refugees in Jordan. Kuwait currently has 120000 Syrian nationals (although I don't know how many of these are refugees, or those who had settled in the country under work permits prior to the Syrian conflict). Saudia Arabia currently has 100000 Syrian nationals (both migrant and guest workers) in the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

So why can't they take them all?

 

[IM469]

Prime Minister Trudeau says this is fear mongering and talking about it is divisive and racist.

But not new. Right wing nut jobs have protested every source of immigration with the same predictable fear mongering. Over the years Canada has seen anti-asian immigration parades, anti- Irish, anti-Japanese, anti-Italian, anti-German, anti-black (many farmers hoping to escape racism in the southern states), among many religions - Mennonites because of their' peculiar' religious practices. Jews had organised opposition such as the Native Sons of Canada. There was organised resistance against taking germans fleeing the Nazis. It is a long list.

My point is that there are a staunch core that never want change and if we listened to them, Canada would be all WASP farmers in a backward economy.

 

[SkyRider]

Over the years Canada has seen anti-asian immigration parades, anti- Irish, anti-Japanese, anti-Italian, anti-German, anti-black (many farmers hoping to escape racism in the southern states), among many religions - Mennonites because of their' peculiar' religious practices. Jews had organised opposition such as the Native Sons of Canada. There was organised resistance against taking germans fleeing the Nazis.

Other than the Sikhs and the Air India bombing, have any of these groups attacked or tried to attack or threatened Canadians on Canadian soil?

 

[Smallcock]

Prime Minister Trudeau says this is fear mongering and talking about it is divisive and racist.

In other words, he's not a real leader.

 

[IM469]

Other than the Sikhs and the Air India bombing, have any of these groups attacked or tried to attack or threatened Canadians on Canadian soil?

I don't think the actual Syrian refugees have but if you are going to look for associated countries at war or threatening Canadian lives at one time or another ... virtually all of them. Even the Germans fleeing Nazis were grouped by association as well as the Japanese, .... the list goes on.

 

[Smallcock]

Even the Germans fleeing Nazis were grouped by association as well as the Japanese, .... the list goes on.

And rightfully so. In hindsight, it looks cold-hearted but it was the right decision to make at the time. It is perfectly logical to believe that people from countries at war with your own may hold allegiances to that country and its politics.

The logic of "because we did it before, we should do it again" is misplaced. To this day, we are still integrating many of the groups you mentioned above.

The current case is like playing with fire. One should not push their luck.

 

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Germany’s new normal: “People can’t leave their homes” “Migrants go into churches to disrupt service. They walk in and start to riot.”
http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/ger...r-homes-these-people-want-to-destroy-us.html/

...What has been happening to the town itself is not difficult to image. The reports I read speak of Muslims in the small streets of the town; I read about serious theft problems in stores where ‘refugees’ walk in, take what they want or need, and walk out again without paying. In the beginning, grocery stores called the police, but stopped doing so after they were told to write up the losses and contact someone at the local municipality to reimburse them. (I had a verbal confirmation from a wife of a German police officer … )

People in Ellwangen don’t leave their houses anymore and stay home unless they need to go out. Women don’t want to go out anymore, and that is not only in the evenings. People feel they are strangers in their own home town and feel uncomfortable. A couple of weeks ago, it became public that a woman had been raped at night on her way home; the police had withheld the report but said it was not because the crime may have been committed by ‘asylum seekers’ but not to hinder the investigation and to protect the victim. Apparently the rapist spoke in a foreign language with another men who was present during the attach. A 10 year old girl had also been sexually harassed, but thankfully, she reported it to her parents before anything physical and more serious happened. I read that the perpetrator in that case was Afghan and lived in town.

 

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Germany: Migration Crisis Becomes Public Health Crisis

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6838/germany-migration-health-crisis

 

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20 TEENAGERS RIOT IN LATEST MIGRANT VIOLENCE IN GERMANY

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/12/20-teenagers-riot-in-latest-migrant-violence-in-germany/

 

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Migrant Violence Sees Road Haulage Operators Attacked and Freight Associations Up In Arms

http://www.handyshippingguide.com/s...cked-and-freight-associations-up-in-arms_6800

Stories like this and footage below does not convince me that this is not a problem...but yeah they are all nobel men who abandoned their families and left them to be slaughtered by the ISIS...that's if I believe that one poster said which is total BS...if those guys were Nobel they would be protecting their families and fighting for their country not abandoning their country and causing trouble in the European countries they cross, this is if we believe they have families and kids which is absolute BS. To say that women and children can't make the treck is absolute BS...how can these people not see what is really going on...

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BySnm6CMzCYRUUc3eXpsX09UOTA&usp=sharing

 

[GGGDickson]

What is it with you and so many people here on TERB expressing such fear of Syrian refugees? Does it not occur to you that these people are fleeing in fear of their lives from the the civil war in Syria, caught between the brutality of Bashar Assad's regime and the monstrosity of ISIS?

We in Canada have a history of welcoming refugees from around the world, who have subsequently gone to integrate and become part of the fabric of Canada. Consider the Vietnamese boat-people who came here during the 70s and 80s -- I personally many of these whose members include prominent business owners, lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc. Or consider the case of the Indian community from Uganda (many of whom were Muslim, btw), who were expelled at gunpoint by the regime of dictator Idi Amin during the 70s. They arrived here in Canada as refugees without going through the usual immigration procedures, and integrated and became highly successful -- the current mayor of Calgary is a son of these refugees.

You need to go to Paris and tell them that. I am sure you will get a lot of support.

 

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@RT_com: URGENT: Multiple reports say 'Jungle' refugee camp in #Calais set on fire http://on.rt.com/6wd7 (Pic @MartaClinco) http://twitter.com/RT_com/status/665323117439356928/photo/1

@DailyMirror: 'Jungle refugee camp set on fire' after #ParisShooting. Follow live: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/paris-shootings-live-updates-least-6828991 #Paris http://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/665322655562633216/photo/1

 

[Occasionally]

@horn_liam: Anyone who says Syrian migrants are all military age men is a damned liar.
I can see 4 children. http://twitter.com/horn_liam/status/663500954201890816/photo/1

Pretty much every picture of hoards of Syrian refugees is almost always men aged 20-40.

Where the heck is everyone else?

 

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I was not aware that you came to Canada as a refugee. I am glad that you have made a success here in Canada and feel welcome here. My comment which you have bolded above was based on your response as follows:

"While good people are caught up in this yes, there are many with ulterior motives, and how do you fairly weed them out and not endanger your people and not break any laws particular human rights."

"Don't you get it. People are getting smarter and are using the innocent to infiltrate and take advantage of the kindness and hospitality, naïveté being offered by the west and the human rights protection to infiltrate just like it is evident in your statement. "

"These military type of people that infiltrated these refugees are playing your type of people and using your type of words to an able their agenda. Your type of a person enables these military type of individuals because you can't see what is really going on. Ask yourself how many women, children, doctors, and good people these military type of refugee had to mug attack for a spot in this line. There are a ton more photos like the one above showing just military type of men and very few women, children etc....how do you explain this?"

For me, at least at initial reading, these posts remind me of the paranoid pronouncements that have become the stock-in-trade of right-wing media outlets like Fox News. And my response was that there has been no credible evidence that any significant # of refugees are members of ISIS, the Al-Nusra Front, or similar jihadist groups (I presume when you talk about an "agenda", you are talking about a radical Islamist, terrorist agenda).

Similarly, my response about why there are no significant # of women and children among the refugees pictured can be easily be explained away by my statement that the people who made it into Europe are those most physically able to make the grueling journey into France to begin with, and most likely have family left behind either in refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan or Turkey or are still stuck in Syria.

How do you feel now making such pathetic naïve statements and being an enabler to the terrorist. Shame on you and your type of people who are blind to the obvious truth that ISIS have crafted this refugee crisis to infiltrate into the west. Shame on you for supporting and enabling this Trojan horse to cultivate terrorist into the west. How do you fucking feel now??? How many more do you need to see, so much more damage do you need to see before people like you wake the fuck up.

 

[Smallcock]

How timely. Vindication.

When's the welcoming party?

 

[SkyRider]

Pretty much every picture of hoards of Syrian refugees is almost always men aged 20-40.

The vast majority of Islamic terrorists are young brown males. I think the ages of the "Paris 8" is 19-30. The Mumbai attackers were early 20's.