Bring Back Lang

Bring Back Lang?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 48.5%
  • No

    Votes: 17 51.5%

  • Total voters
    33

onthebottom

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While the Bring back rog and lang poll is narrowing, several posters thought that lumping Lang with Rog was unfair to Lang. I'll acquiesce and post this poll by itself to see if we can move Emperor Fred to reconsider.

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LancsLad said:
We could offer a sacrifice to entice the gods. er sorry mods:D
TOV?

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I think Lang made a positive contribution to the board (not always, but on average) and therefore voted yes. However, if the problem is his signature as reported by another poster, I don’t think you can assign all the blame to the moderators on this. OTB, I don’t know if you have his e-mail address but if so, have you asked Lang if he is willing to compromise on this? If not, I can’t see the moderators backing down as it would mean losing to much face. Indeed, I could not blame them from not wanting to back down after taking a stand. I hope he does come back but unless he is willing to compromise, I can't see it happening.
 

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someone said:
I think Lang made a positive contribution to the board (not always, but on average) and therefore voted yes. However, if the problem is his signature as reported by another poster, I don’t think you can assign all the blame to the moderators on this. OTB, I don’t know if you have his e-mail address but if so, have you asked Lang if he is willing to compromise on this? If not, I can’t see the moderators backing down as it would mean losing to much face. Indeed, I could not blame them from not wanting to back down after taking a stand. I hope he does come back but unless he is willing to compromise, I can't see it happening.
I don't have his email (you're the second person to ask me this week) and didn't see the offending signature line so I can't comment there.

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btw, lang has gone over to the dark side (or is it the bright side), lol. at least there he can say whatever he wants. if i post the board link i would probably get banned.
 

onthebottom

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Meister said:
btw, lang has gone over to the dark side (or is it the bright side), lol. at least there he can say whatever he wants. if i post the board link i would probably get banned.
PM me with where that would be please.

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onthebottom said:
I …(edit)… didn't see the offending signature line so I can't comment there.

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I didn’t mean to imply that I thought his signature was that bad. Nonetheless, I’m not Muslim so it was not directed at people like me anyway. My point is that whether the moderators were right or wrong (I think you could make an argument for both sides), I can’t see them backing down after taking a stand. Lang on the other had could save face on the grounds that those Danish cartoons are no longer a current event. That being said, I do respect that fact that Lang seems to have made a stand on principle. Whether I agree or not, I can understand the principle he was trying to stand up for (assuming the third had information I have read from other posters is true).

Meister said:
btw, lang has gone over to the dark side (or is it the bright side), lol. at least there he can say whatever he wants. if i post the board link i would probably get banned.
I’m curious, does he have the same signature on the other board?:)

Edit: I'm surprised the poll is so close. I really would have thought more people would have supported Lang.
 

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I'd suggest that once Lang apologizes for posting those cartoons and admitting he was a twat for doing so when asked to desist, then admin might consider his reinstatement.

As it is, Lang still thinks that posting those cartoons was the brightest thing he ever did. :rolleyes:
 

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someone said:
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I’m curious, does he have the same signature on the other board?:)

Edit: I'm surprised the poll is so close. I really would have thought more people would have supported Lang.
Looks like a guy with a knife with two burka clad women on either side.

I'm surprised as well.

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onthebottom said:
Looks like a guy with a knife with two burka clad women on either side.

I'm surprised as well.

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I thought it was the one with the explosives but I could very well be wrong as it as been some time.
Could you please PM me the board?
 

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DonQuixote said:
And the real reason OTB wants lange back is:

OTB's running out of like-minded allies.
Even if that is true, I don’t think it is bad. It is a viewpoint that many Americans have. Thus, right or wrong, I think that Canadian posters are better off knowing what the thought processes of these kinds of people are. My problem with Roger was that he engaged unprovoked in personal attacks. Lang occasionally lost his temper but given that I have done the same, I can’t be too hard on him for that. In other words, I can’t be the one to throw the first stone at him.
 

Anbarandy

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someone said:
Even if that is true, I don’t think it is bad. It is a viewpoint that many Americans have. Thus, right or wrong, I think that Canadian posters are better off knowing what the thought processes of these kinds of people are. My problem with Roger was that he engaged unprovoked in personal attacks. Lang occasionally lost his temper but given that I have done the same, I can’t be too hard on him for that. In other words, I can’t be the one to throw the first stone at him.
I guess your use of term "these kinds of people' to describe conservatives was just a slip of the tongue? Subjectivity is in the mind of the beholder as is the perception of intelligence and moral certitude.
 

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Anbarandy said:
I guess your use of term "these kinds of people' to describe conservatives was just a slip of the tongue? Subjectivity is in the mind of the beholder as is the perception of intelligence and moral certitude.
Bush is no conservative in Canadian terms. Even the NDP would blush at Bush’s deficits. He is only a conservative in the American sense of difference between conservative and liberal being religious versus secular. (Not that I’m saying Lang was a religious fanatic, but implying that Bush is a conservative is ridiculous, given his economic policies)

Given that your join date was only a few days ago, I wonder if you're one of the recently banned members.

Edit: Roger?
 

Anbarandy

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DonQuixote said:
That explains OTB to a T. ;)

The best definition of truth that I've run across is:
When the perception of the observer is consistent
with reality. For reality is neither true nor false; it
is what it is. Truth is always ordinary and obvious.
What is extraordinary is a man's ability to perceive
the ordinary and obvious.

And we are, to a person, frequently unable
to observe and understand what is - reality.
Partisan politics is like a fog over our ability
to observe and understand.
In all seriousness DQ, you won the truth, perception and reality sweepstakes. Great definition. It explains us all, not just OTB. Now only if we can buy into it. All this banning, unbanning, poll pyrotechnics paranoia and comments of moral certitude proves we don't. "I perceive therefore I am" strikes as appropo.
 

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Anbarandy said:
In all seriousness DQ, you won the truth, perception and reality sweepstakes. Great definition. It explains us all, not just OTB. Now only if we can buy into it. All this banning, unbanning, poll pyrotechnics paranoia and comments of moral certitude proves we don't.
Archlighter! It’s too literate for Roger.;)
 
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