Brett Kavanaugh and His Accuser Say They’re Willing to Testify
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But Kavanaugh’s response to these allegations speaks volumes too. And that is current behaviour. So you see the problem?
Kathleen, you must have missed Trump saying that professor Ford was a credible witness.
Would you hire somebody for a very sensitive job, if a credible witness came forward and accused him of sexual assault?
I would not.
Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick was accused of engaging in 'unwelcome, sexually offensive conduct during a business lunch with two male colleagues' by her former employer
Julie Swetnick was accused of misconduct by her former employer, Webtrends
The Portland-based tech company filed a lawsuit against Swetnick in 2000 alleging that she engaged in 'unwelcome, sexually offensive conduct'
The company also said she lied about where she went to school, 'falsely described her work experience' and made false claims of sexual harassment
She was hired as a professional services engineer but only stayed a few months
Swetnick is the third woman to come forward accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct saying he was at parties where women were mistreated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ndorsements-OPPOSE-Kavanaughs-nomination.html
Julie Swetnick was accused of misconduct by her former employer, Webtrends
The Portland-based tech company filed a lawsuit against Swetnick in 2000 alleging that she engaged in 'unwelcome, sexually offensive conduct'
The company also said she lied about where she went to school, 'falsely described her work experience' and made false claims of sexual harassment
She was hired as a professional services engineer but only stayed a few months
Swetnick is the third woman to come forward accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct saying he was at parties where women were mistreated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ndorsements-OPPOSE-Kavanaughs-nomination.html
The case against Swetnick collapsed within a couple of weeks and was yanked by the claimants before it even got before a judge.
Let's do it this way. I'm evil mastermind George Soros and I am trying to destroy Brett Kavanaugh and fuck with the GOP. I dream up a #metoo hit on him that will take him down. The accusations are all going to be he said / she said. So the accuser has to be squeaky clean. In that hypothetical, the last person that I'm going to recruit is Swetnick. She's got 2 or 3 blips in her background, even though none of the allegations against her actually went anywhere or appear credible.
So the fact that Swetnick is now put forward as an accuser suggests that there's no "George Soros / Clinton masterplan of revenge", which is what BK ranted about in his appalling testimony. These women are coming forward by themselves.
That approach works fine on Terb. But in the real world, if you were an executive of a company, your answer would be hell no. (or the board would fire you asap)
Having been divorce more than once, this advice is not necessary.
Its one thing to hire someone inside a MP who's had a history of sexual assault or multiple accusations.
Its another thing to put someone on the highest court in the country in a job for life.
If you don't have the utmost moral standards for the Supreme Court, where do you?
Legal Experts and Yale Friends Believe Kavanaugh Committed Perjury
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-experts-and-yale-friends-believe-kavanaugh-committed-perjury/
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-experts-and-yale-friends-believe-kavanaugh-committed-perjury/
Expected from the Trumptard Cult Followers. Well the normal Hobbyists are okay with it. So that is all that matters!!
Actually what I see as the problem is that this nomination has degenerated into a elective rather than appointive judgeship. Judge Kavanaugh was in a catch-22 if he behaved mildly in the face of some truly vicious attacks from Senate Democrats it would have appeared that he really didn't care, and perhaps was agreeing with their comments about him. Instead he fought back, now he is being criticized for having fought back.
For those who have been exposed to partisan state judicial elections, this hearing may have certain overtones, as it is far from unheard of to have judges criticized by their opponents not only for their judicial philosophies and rulings, for their backgrounds as well. The Federal system of appointments was always seen as better and more rational by those like myself. That has now seemingly gone flying out the window. God knows if it will ever be able to be recovered!
THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS
September 27, 2018
John Graham
I’m a white guy who went to a private Jesuit-run prep school and then to an Ivy League college. At the prep school, an “in” crowd, mostly the sons of the city’s business and social elite, controlled the social pecking order, played on the sports teams, hosted exclusive parties, and bragged about their sexual conquests. And there were the nerds, like me, who had no part in any of that.
The “ins” knew that when they went too far, their parents would smooth it all over with a boys-will-be-boys defense. If you were, like me, in those classrooms on an academic scholarship and were the son of a less than elite family, you had no illusions that bad behavior would be dismissed. Of course we nerds weren’t perfect, but at least we had to live in a world of consequences for bad behavior, and we learned from that.
By and large, the in crowd at America’s elite prep schools go on to join the elite fraternities and clubs of the Ivy League and other high-end universities. They then head for top jobs in business and government, too many of them still absent any cognizance of what it means to be a decent human being. The world is theirs for the taking and their assumption is that only a fool would not walk through the doors to power that are open to them.
I think now that many of them were failed by parents who raised them to have such massive blind spots, parents who were operating within a cultural system of patriarchy and privilege that has little if any interest in the common good.
Let me give you a picture of how that manifested in one young nerd life. At my prep school, I decided against all odds to run for student body president against five jocks from the in crowd. Being the smart kid I was, I ran a clever campaign that included making a deal with one of them before the primary vote. If either of us failed to make the runoff, that person would publicly throw his support to the other for the finals. The boy, a star fullback, was sure that he’d be the one with the votes and readily agreed. When I made it into the runoff (against the quarterback) and the fullback didn't, I expected him to make good on his promise. That night I got a call from his father, a wealthy businessman, who sternly told me that his son would not be supporting me. His family and the quarterback’s were country club friends. There was no way the promise his son had made to me trumped that family bond.
I was 17, allowed myself to be bullied, and lost the election to the quarterback by three votes. But the real loser was the fullback, who learned from his father that he need not stand by his word and that maintaining one’s privilege is more important than integrity.
But here’s the thing. I wasn’t just up against the fullback and his father. I was facing a whole culture of power that couldn’t conceive of anyone like me muscling in on their turf. After all, my father sold advertising, my mother was a schoolteacher, and we drove a Dodge.
Looking at Brett Kavanagh, I think we’re seeing way more than a man who was once a privileged young lout who couldn’t hold his liquor and who’d never been taught respect for women. These Senate hearings are shining a national light on the entire system of white male patriarchy and privilege that is blind not only to assaults on women, but to the toxic effects of vicious inequalities in this country, the failure to spend enough on public goods, and a political system made dysfunctional by unchecked infusions of money.
So as you watch the Senate committee deal with the Kavanaugh nomination, don’t get caught in thinking that this is a simple he-said-she-said conundrum. It’s way more than that. It’s about whether or not this country will continue to elevate to the highest offices in the land the scions and beneficiaries of a badly broken system, men who have always had their way with money, power—and women.
I used to be right of center politically. No more. In the blazing light of the Kavanaugh nomination I know whose side I’m on. We can’t allow a white, patriarchal, self-serving elite to continue having its way at the expense not just of women but of the well-being of the entire country. The November elections are the next chance to right the ship of state, but it’s going to take more than one election to make America the nation it can be. It’s going to take a steady, courageous, national recommitment to being a country of the people, by the people and for the people.
And along the way, we need to be teaching our sons to be ethical, honorable human beings.
https://www.johngraham.org/blog/the-kavanaugh-hearings#.W7CpVPZJqy1.facebook
September 27, 2018
John Graham
I’m a white guy who went to a private Jesuit-run prep school and then to an Ivy League college. At the prep school, an “in” crowd, mostly the sons of the city’s business and social elite, controlled the social pecking order, played on the sports teams, hosted exclusive parties, and bragged about their sexual conquests. And there were the nerds, like me, who had no part in any of that.
The “ins” knew that when they went too far, their parents would smooth it all over with a boys-will-be-boys defense. If you were, like me, in those classrooms on an academic scholarship and were the son of a less than elite family, you had no illusions that bad behavior would be dismissed. Of course we nerds weren’t perfect, but at least we had to live in a world of consequences for bad behavior, and we learned from that.
By and large, the in crowd at America’s elite prep schools go on to join the elite fraternities and clubs of the Ivy League and other high-end universities. They then head for top jobs in business and government, too many of them still absent any cognizance of what it means to be a decent human being. The world is theirs for the taking and their assumption is that only a fool would not walk through the doors to power that are open to them.
I think now that many of them were failed by parents who raised them to have such massive blind spots, parents who were operating within a cultural system of patriarchy and privilege that has little if any interest in the common good.
Let me give you a picture of how that manifested in one young nerd life. At my prep school, I decided against all odds to run for student body president against five jocks from the in crowd. Being the smart kid I was, I ran a clever campaign that included making a deal with one of them before the primary vote. If either of us failed to make the runoff, that person would publicly throw his support to the other for the finals. The boy, a star fullback, was sure that he’d be the one with the votes and readily agreed. When I made it into the runoff (against the quarterback) and the fullback didn't, I expected him to make good on his promise. That night I got a call from his father, a wealthy businessman, who sternly told me that his son would not be supporting me. His family and the quarterback’s were country club friends. There was no way the promise his son had made to me trumped that family bond.
I was 17, allowed myself to be bullied, and lost the election to the quarterback by three votes. But the real loser was the fullback, who learned from his father that he need not stand by his word and that maintaining one’s privilege is more important than integrity.
But here’s the thing. I wasn’t just up against the fullback and his father. I was facing a whole culture of power that couldn’t conceive of anyone like me muscling in on their turf. After all, my father sold advertising, my mother was a schoolteacher, and we drove a Dodge.
Looking at Brett Kavanagh, I think we’re seeing way more than a man who was once a privileged young lout who couldn’t hold his liquor and who’d never been taught respect for women. These Senate hearings are shining a national light on the entire system of white male patriarchy and privilege that is blind not only to assaults on women, but to the toxic effects of vicious inequalities in this country, the failure to spend enough on public goods, and a political system made dysfunctional by unchecked infusions of money.
So as you watch the Senate committee deal with the Kavanaugh nomination, don’t get caught in thinking that this is a simple he-said-she-said conundrum. It’s way more than that. It’s about whether or not this country will continue to elevate to the highest offices in the land the scions and beneficiaries of a badly broken system, men who have always had their way with money, power—and women.
I used to be right of center politically. No more. In the blazing light of the Kavanaugh nomination I know whose side I’m on. We can’t allow a white, patriarchal, self-serving elite to continue having its way at the expense not just of women but of the well-being of the entire country. The November elections are the next chance to right the ship of state, but it’s going to take more than one election to make America the nation it can be. It’s going to take a steady, courageous, national recommitment to being a country of the people, by the people and for the people.
And along the way, we need to be teaching our sons to be ethical, honorable human beings.
https://www.johngraham.org/blog/the-kavanaugh-hearings#.W7CpVPZJqy1.facebook
Which as we both know can mean any number of things besides it was without merit.
Of course without merit is what Michael Avenatti would like us all to believe, but I've come to believe that in the next legal edition of the Devil's Dictionary there is going to be a photograph of Michael Avenatti, in the article "Ambulance Chaser."
https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2018/09/julie_swetnick_one_of_kavanaug.html
The combination of the multiple accusations and Kavanaugh's DARVO act during questioning should make him look untrustworthy, partisan and ill tempered to sit on the SC for life.
Yes, we can't get him on evidence, so we move to perception. Straight out of Justice Thomas playbook.
Huh?
If BK simply attended and answered questions without his tantrums and histrionics he would have done just fine. He would have kept the country's sympathy and everybody would have thought he was a decent human being.
He showed up and acted like a narcissistic, entitled, spiteful frat boy. No indication of maturity, reflection, humility and he showed massive partisan bias.
It would not have been difficult for him to say: "This is not fair and it's going to be a difficult day for me. But this is America's decision and it's about America. If I am not chosen for the USSC - whether that choice is a fair choice or a partisan choice - I will serve America in my present capacity or some other capacity. If the Senate says to me that there is doubt about my suitability - whether that doubt is well and fairly founded or not - it is better for America that I not be appointed. It is what is best for America that is important here. Not my feelings or ego. We all work for America and America is far more important than any and all of us."
I didn't hear him say anything close to that. And that's where he lost me. I have acted for drug dealers from the projects who have kept their shit together at a hearing better than BK and who have behaved with more dignity.
You and I both know that there are a hundred - make that a thousand - judges, law professors and top litigators who could do that job as well as BK could. They can read the precedents. The can be thoughtful and wise. They can mix an academic view of the law with a practical grasp of sociology and politics. BK has got very close GOP connections, including connections with Bush and Justice Kennedy. He's the in-house Republican Party up-and-comer. Why anyone would think he a "must have" candidate for any reason apart from the fact that he's a partisan GOP-er, I can't see. If this is your idea of the perfect candidate, you're missing something.
Oh by the time the next edition of the DD comes out, Avenatti will be in the article entitled "Members of the US Senate".
The Dems will get him a safe seat in NJ or PA as a reward for fucking with your team so brilliantly for the last many months.
