BREAKING: Scarborough Man Commits Suicide After Getting Detained by Toronto Police

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Obviously the victim had mental health issues. Considering this guy committed suicide two days later, I'm not sure you can blame Police for this one. RIP

Toronto Police respond daily to over 80 mental health calls alone. When you consider that number and how infrequently they make the news, Police in general do a pretty good job. Is there room for improvement? Of course, but I suspect they'll attend hundreds if not thousands of calls before another makes the news again.
 
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Obviously the victim had mental health issues. Considering this guy committed suicide the next day, I'm not sure you can blame Police for this one. RIP

Toronto Police respond daily to over 80 mental health calls alone. When you consider that number and how infrequently they make the news, Police in general do a pretty good job. Is there room for improvement? Of course, but I suspect they'll attend hundreds if not thousands of calls before another makes the news again.
I don’t think so.

I am getting fed up with the police also and the mess politicians are making out of them by pawning them so bad.

Why do we have 3 cop cars at the local park where kids toboggan but yet city allows public skating and shuts down ski resort.

Why are the police busting up a house with 6 members because a neighbor ratted on them?

I don’t think the police are doing the right things here. Unfortunately they are being played by the politicians and falling for the trap where everyone starts hating on them.

I expect to see more of these Type of incidents especially because people can’t take these lockdowns anymore and are losing their shit.

 
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Obviously the victim had mental health issues. Considering this guy committed suicide the next day, I'm not sure you can blame Police for this one. RIP

Toronto Police respond daily to over 80 mental health calls alone. When you consider that number and how infrequently they make the news, Police in general do a pretty good job. Is there room for improvement? Of course, but I suspect they'll attend hundreds if not thousands of calls before another makes the news again.
You are right, you can't blame the police for this. I am sure the family will though and sue looking for sympathy money.
 

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"Western Society" people are not meant/used to living under these conditions... The pressure is building. Bad things are happening.

You cannot resist arrest. Just comply and hire your lawyer afterwards.
 

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If the dumb SOB wanted to kill himself it would have happened weather the cops were involved or not
No need to be insensitive. The poor guy obviously had mental issues and it's actually pretty sad that he took his own life following that altercation. I'm sure the Cops who arrested him don't feel great about what happened either. He leaves behind a mother, father and siblings, who I'm sure are devastated by their loss. I can't say for sure, but there's likely a coloration between these types of incidence (among others) that lead to Police suicides.

"Western Society" people are not meant/used to living under these conditions... The pressure is building. Bad things are happening.

You cannot resist arrest. Just comply and hire your lawyer afterwards.
You do bring up a good point. For the most part, Cops are never going to beat you up if you don't freak out on them first. My rule of thumb, and it's worked for me my entire life, is even if you're right and the Cops are wrong, don't piss then off. My brothers and sisters taught me this at a young age. It's worked like magic to this day.

Look at it his way. Cops are going to do up to three things when they confront you. Whether you're in the right or wrong (that shit can be figured out later) there's one golden rule. Play nice, it'll pay off in the end.

Typically, Cops will:

Step 1: Ask you to do something. This is where it's a good idea to do what they say. If not...

Step 2: Tell you to do something. Now if you still don't comply, they will...

Seep 3: Make you do something... This is where shit goes wrong...

Ask, Tell, Make... That's all there is to it. Thankfully, I've never been one to tell the Cops to fuck off, even when it was probably justified. You're never going to win that war. Be nice and everything will work out in the end.

Put yourself in their position. How are you likely to respond to someone who gets in your face and say "fuck you pig." As opposed to someone saying "hello Officer, what's the problem?"
 
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No need to be insensitive. The poor guy obviously had mental issues and it's actually pretty sad that he took his own life following that altercation. I'm sure the Cops who arrested him don't feel great about what happened either. He leaves behind a mother, father and siblings, who I'm sure are devastated by their loss. I can't say for sure, but there's likely a coloration between these types of incidence (among others) that lead to Police suicides.
FWIW... I have family members who've been Police (with one committing suicide). They wouldn't care about this dude killing himself... I think its trained out of them. The one who committed suicide was due to stress (read: evil wife) at home...
 

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Obviously the victim had mental health issues. Considering this guy committed suicide the next day, I'm not sure you can blame Police for this one. RIP

Toronto Police respond daily to over 80 mental health calls alone. When you consider that number and how infrequently they make the news, Police in general do a pretty good job. Is there room for improvement? Of course, but I suspect they'll attend hundreds if not thousands of calls before another makes the news again.
I had a friend with mental health issues who got roughed up by police and he committed suicide about 10 days later. That is why the "Defund the Police" folks say that certain cases should be handled by mental health professionals instead of aggressive, violent , old school cops.
 

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"Western Society" people are not meant/used to living under these conditions... The pressure is building. Bad things are happening.

You cannot resist arrest. Just comply and hire your lawyer afterwards.
FWIW... I have family members who've been Police (with one committing suicide). They wouldn't care about this dude killing himself... I think its trained out of them. The one who committed suicide was due to stress (read: evil wife) at home...
I don't believe you can "train out" human emotions. There may be some things you get used to, or you become numb to, but there's no way any aspects or emotions are "trained" out of you. I'm sorry about your family member committing suicide. No easy task for anyone to accept.

Who could work in sex crimes, with very young individuals involved and not think this wouldn't have a lasting effect on them...
 

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I had a friend with mental health issues who got roughed up by police and he committed suicide about 10 days later. That is why the "Defund the Police" folks say that certain cases should be handled by mental health professionals instead of aggressive, violent , old school cops.
Sorry to hear about your friend. While I agree there should be a shift in the way Police handle these call, it's going to take a while to make changes. As I mentioned before, Toronto Cops respond to over 80 mental health calls a day. Right now, when someone is in distress, people call one number. "911" Then it's up to that operator to evaluate the situation and send the appropriate first responders.

Do you actually think simply defunding the Police will make things better? Honestly, that's so shortsighted. We definitely need an overhaul of the current system, but if you think you can simply replace Police officers with social workers to respond to these calls, many of which are violent individuals, you're living in dreamland!
 
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Typically, Cops will:

Step 1: Ask you to do something. This is where it's a good idea to do what they say. If not...

Step 2: Tell you to do something. Now if you still don't comply, they will...

Seep 3: Make you do something... This is where shit goes wrong...
If you have black skin, typically the cops will:

Step 1: Give you a ticket for sitting in a park, completely peacefully. ( Meanwhile, Conservative WHITE SKIN finance minister keeps his job, despite putting covid on people ).

Step 2: Beat you

Step 3: George Floyd you
 

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If you have black skin, typically the cops will:

Step 1: Give you a ticket for sitting in a park, completely peacefully. ( Meanwhile, Conservative WHITE SKIN finance minister keeps his job, despite putting covid on people ).

Step 2: Beat you

Step 3: George Floyd you
Yawn. Change the diatribe, please. BLM has zero credibility.
 

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I have been thinking this incident over a lot since it happened and how the cops treated that dude.

How can we be sure that the cops didn’t trigger this guys episode because they were treating him unfair and making him seem like he was doing something wrong when he wasn’t.

You can clearly hear the cops saying you shouldn’t be here and can hear them saying something about some act and other bullshit. As far as I know about that incident that tea shop was open along with others. How do the cops know the guy didn’t buy tea or another product and was not tress passing. How do we know the cops were not bullying him. how do we the the ill treatment of the cops didn’t trigger this.

This is big and if they continue this will trigger more people and push them off the edge.

Now getting to the cops. They are in a hard spot and just doing what their bosses tell them and the politicians that pass the laws and direct them what to do.

Insted of people just knee jerking cops all the time why don’t you go to the root and source of the problem. Go after the politicians, the ones who abdicate and abuse their power and undermine humanity and trigger people and push them over the edge as a result like all the politicians who went down south and were laying on the beach but keep telling us to stay locked down. Why aren’t you guys going after them, defunding them, challenging them, holding them responsible and accountable vs. someone who is just doing their job and being told what to do.

What the cops need to do is push back against the politicians asking and telling them to do this and people need to be there for the cops. If people don’t support the cops especially during resistance this will get even worse and we will show them they can do what they please with us. They are being put in a difficult situation by putting cars on toboggan hills and harassing kids buying bubble tea and struggling businesses and family gatherings of 6 people and letting “protestors” smash up windows and stores because the politicians tell them it’s good to do and this it’s for human rights and corona virus does not exist in these type of protests.

Hold the politicians accountable. This is why we elect them. Go to the root and not a branch or a leaf. Inaction and knee jerking will get nothing solved and the politicians will just see and be laughing from the beach how much they are playing all of you/us as suckers.

Here is the full video...

Here is Joe Warmingtons take on this situation...

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The above is a MOVIE ... not real life ... therefore using this as an argument is a big, fat ... FAIL !!!
The only point being made here with references to those words is to question everything for your self and find the truth on your own terms. Right now they are distorting the truth for you.

I don’t really care what you think of me or my points. I am will always advocate to think for your self and wake up and stop being a sheep and not allowing your civil liberties and rights to be undermined.

If you think the ones who are trying to wake you up to think for your self are wrong here then the issue is with you and you are ego backlashing.

Sometimes life imitates art and this is what’s happening ATM through these examples outlined in the OP.
 

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If you guys are okay with the state treating you like children then you will love this next initiative which will free you even more from actually thinking for your selves.


Doug Ford says a curfew could be on the table for Ontario bit.ly/3bfPKQu #Ontario #ONpoli #DougFord

What’s next? How far are you willing to allow them to scare and imprison you without holding them accountable?

Better solution is rapid testing program and techniques with other measures and not blind ignorant lockdowns.

To each their own, however it is totally understandable some people like being a sheep and don’t like it when this is exposed.
 

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Apparently the owner of the club who posted the video tried to extort money $50k from the guy when he requested the video be taken down or his face blurred.
 

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If you guys are okay with the state treating you like children then you will love this next initiative which will free you even more from actually thinking for your selves.


Doug Ford says a curfew could be on the table for Ontario bit.ly/3bfPKQu #Ontario #ONpoli #DougFord

What’s next? How far are you willing to allow them to scare and imprison you without holding them accountable?

Better solution is rapid testing program and techniques with other measures and not blind ignorant lockdowns.

To each their own, however it is totally understandable some people like being a sheep and don’t like it when this is exposed.
ROFLMFAO!!! No disrespect, but rapid testing? Why don't you just ask for a free trip to Mars? They will not do any of it because they're incapable of accomplishing anything. Rapid testing, fortifying the LTC facilities, a couple of extra busses during the rush hour, stopping or at least quarantining the international flights, etc. Those are beyond their abilities. For decades now our governments have perfected the art of the bureaucratic inertia of passing the buck, kicking the can down the road and evading responsibility. All they do now is act for show and doing for the sake of doing. They're not interested in results because they know that they will fail. Hence, another lock down after the previous lockdown failed.
 
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ROFLMFAO!!! No disrespect, but rapid testing? Why don't you just ask for a free trip to Mars? They will not do any of it because they're incapable of accomplishing anything. Rapid testing, fortifying the LTC facilities, a couple of extra busses during the rush hour, stopping or at least quarantining the international flights, etc. Those are beyond their abilities. For decades now our governments have perfected the art of the bureaucratic inertia of passing the buck, kicking the can down the road and evading responsibility. All they do now is act for show and doing for the sake of doing. They're not interested in results because they know that they will fail. Hence, another lock down after the previous lockdown failed.
What do you think will work then since these lockdowns are not doing much?

They cover rapid testing techniques well in this podcast. Although a lot of topics are discussed Michael Mina outlines how it can work.


I don’t like to criticize without having a viable alternative solution.

What do you think will work and how do you see this thing playing out? I am not an expert here but last time in March when we had a few hundred the lockdowns did fuck all and the virus lingered. Even if they get it under control it will still linger and will re-emerge. How about the vaccine and how long are they before it takes global effect like a year? By then the virus will have mutated and potentially resistant to the vaccine.

Right now these blind and ignorant lockdowns are a path to further disaster as indicated in this OP incident and many similar ones. The fall out of blind ignorant lockdowns is worse then the problem intended to solve.
 
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