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[Phil C. McNasty]

ISIS is trying to take over the Philippines:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-street-battle-terrorist-jihadi-a7751406.html

 

[frankcastle]

You always do, I have no doubt you're one. Anytime there is a terrorist attack you're after those who express anger and dismay over the deaths of these innocent people. Have some EMPATHY for these innocent children, Frank !!! Have some empathy please children have died, for no reason than hatred from a group of religious nuts. How can you be so stone hearted.

Nope. Not a muslim.

I have sympathy for the kids and their family.

Just because i dont agree with you doesnt mean i am automatically on the oppositr side of the spectrum.

My problem is that people often make uninformed comments. Classic one is that muslims condone the activities of isis. But numerous websites would disputr that.

If you want to battle terrorism how about not using stereotypes and horrible stories in the news to paint millions of muslims in the same light. I dont have the answers but pretty sure counter terrorist organiztions dont just sit around using this type of approach.

 

[frankcastle]

And you know this how? Do you hang out at mosques or halal butcher shops? It seems like the epitome of naievete that members of a mosque would not notice the radicalization of a fellow member. Problem is they won't report it. They do turn a blind eye. Frankcastle, you really need to get your head out of the sand and see what is going on around you.

i know this because blabbing is a sure fire way to get caught.

same reason why when a mass murderer kills people are often surprised. quiet guy kept to himself etc.

 

[canada-man]

 

[Insidious Von]

Hanging drawing and quartering was banned in Britain in 1870, although not carried out long before that.

I'd make an exception for anyone that helped Salman Abedi.

 

[Aardvark154]

There are also ethical issues with ALL clergy in telling the police about info disclosed to them. That includes Christian clergy. "Priest-penitent privilege".

Boy is that a can of worms.

Tulsa Law Review Bless Me Father, for I Am about to Sin...: Should Clergy Counselors Have a Duty to Protect Third Parties
http://digitalcommons.law.utulsa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1762&context=tlr

William & Mary Law Review Sharing Sacred Secrets: Is it (Past) Time for a Dangerous Person Exception to the ClergyPenitent Privilege?
http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1376&context=wmlr

In the U.S. this is coloured by the extremely well known case of Tarasoff v. Regents of the University of California dealing with the responsibilities of Psychologists and Psychiatrists when they know a client poses a significant and imminent threat to someone else.

Of course if the Imam, Priest, Pastor or Rabbi just notices from your behaviour and public statements that you are heading over the top the above doesn't apply at all.

Another thought at least in the case of Christians is Bob comes to Fr. Oagre and say's I'm just consumed by hatred for East Indian Escort Depti and I'm going to murder her this afternoon -- even if the statement was made in a Priest - Penitent type situation that really wasn't a valid confession since Bob wasn't repentant at all he intends to murder her. If Father Oagre calls up police and says I just heard a very valid threat to Depti and she needs police protection, that wasn't a violation of Priest - Penitent. Likewise if Fr. Oagre says to Bob, I'm willing to accompany you to the emergency psychiatric clinic that isn't a violation either.

 

[Aardvark154]

Hanging drawing and quartering was banned in Britain in 1870, although not carried out long before that.

I'd make an exception for anyone that helped Salman Abedi.

Salman Abedi himself seems to have chosen Blowing From a Gun.

 

[mandrill]

Salman Abedi himself seems to have chosen Blowing From a Gun.

Is that taboo in Hindu or Muslim faith?

I get the feeling that Muslims don't care too much.

 

[mandrill]

Boy is that a can of worms.

Tulsa Law Review Bless Me Father, for I Am about to Sin...: Should Clergy Counselors Have a Duty to Protect Third Parties
http://digitalcommons.law.utulsa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1762&context=tlr

William & Mary Law Review Sharing Sacred Secrets: Is it (Past) Time for a Dangerous Person Exception to the ClergyPenitent Privilege?
http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1376&context=wmlr

In the U.S. this is coloured by the extremely well known case of Tarasoff v. Regents of the University of California dealing with the responsibilities of Psychologists and Psychiatrists when they know a client poses a significant and imminent threat to someone else.

Of course if the Imam, Priest, Pastor or Rabbi just notices from your behaviour and public statements that you are heading over the top the above doesn't apply at all.

Another thought at least in the case of Christians is Bob comes to Fr. Oagre and say's I'm just consumed by hatred for East Indian Escort Depti and I'm going to murder her this afternoon -- even if the statement was made in a Priest - Penitent type situation that really wasn't a valid confession since Bob wasn't repentant at all he intends to murder her. If Father Oagre calls up police and says I just heard a very valid threat to Depti and she needs police protection, that wasn't a violation of Priest - Penitent. Likewise if Fr. Oagre says to Bob, I'm willing to accompany you to the emergency psychiatric clinic that isn't a violation either.

It's an interesting topic. IIRC from Evidence 202, Canadian law will jail a priest for not testifying about what was overheard at a confession.

 

[mandrill]

Fill the UK with muslims, you have a muslim country. Fill Canada with 3rd world people, you have a 3rd world country. I say deport them all. Their culture and ideology are completely incompatible with ours. You cannot have a social-welfare state and massive 3rd world immigration, it will never work either. Burn all Quorans and bulldoze all mosques, the same as what muslim majority countries do to christians and jews. At least we would be deporting them instead of beheading them, which is what they do to christians and jews in their countries. Time to fight fire with fire and stop being a culture of impotent, cowardly worms scared to death of being called racist for telling the truth.

Quite the expert. I suggest you start on your good work by visiting Brampton and telling the nice people there that they are Third World scum and trying to make them leave. I'll refer you to some of my colleagues who practice criminal law when you phone from jail.

 

[james t kirk]

First of all. I am not apologizing for Muslims. I don't condone what they did to the gays who were caned.

But if you want to think that beating gays is unique to Muslims then that is where we will have to disagree. Whether the people in Canada was charged is irrelevant. The point I am making is that there are people in Canada who think it is okay to beat gays. That's the only point.

Suggesting that Muslims get a pass is your words in my mouth.

I'm all for getting rid of terrorists, I just happen to think that painting hundreds of millions of people with the same brush is not a constructive starting point. We need to make contacts and ally with those within the Muslim community who feel the way we do.

Sure when you combine news stories of throwing gays off roofs or caning it sounds bad. Because it is. But it would be a mistake to assume all Muslim countries are like that.

It would be like living on the other side of the planet and watching CP24. You'd think it was a violent town with all the stabbings and shootings but you and I know differently. Now are those countries Disneyland? Probably not. But using the news as our only source probably gives us a skewed view.

There are probably a handful of people in Canada that think it's OK to beat up gays. But they would beat me up too if I crossed them for some reason. It's who they are. But here's the difference. It's not widespread. It's not even slightly uncommon. It's almost nonexistent and if it did happen, you can bet your sweet ass that the system would go all out to catch them and throw them into jail.

I believe a recent poll in the middle east revealed that fully 80 percent of Muslims think that the penalty for homosexuality should be death.

Do you really think that Canada is the same as that?

Do you think that it's 8%, or even 0.08%?

I think you'd be hard pressed to find even 8 people in the entire country (save and except those from Islamic cultures) who would want to kill homosexuals in Canada.

You're argument of 2 wrongs makes a right is not flying with me or the peanut gallery.

 

[james t kirk]

Morrissey comes out swinging against political correctness.

That surprised me.

 

[Conil]

I have sympathy for the kids and their family.

Right..we can see the overwhelming sympathy you have expressed towards the people killed and the anger towards the many terrorist attacks. LOL

 

[Calgacus]

There are probably a handful of people in Canada that think it's OK to beat up gays. But they would beat me up too if I crossed them for some reason. It's who they are. But here's the difference. It's not widespread. It's not even slightly uncommon. It's almost nonexistent and if it did happen, you can bet your sweet ass that the system would go all out to catch them and throw them into jail.

I believe a recent poll in the middle east revealed that fully 80 percent of Muslims think that the penalty for homosexuality should be death.

Do you really think that Canada is the same as that?

Do you think that it's 8%, or even 0.08%?

I think you'd be hard pressed to find even 8 people in the entire country (save and except those from Islamic cultures) who would want to kill homosexuals in Canada.

You're argument of 2 wrongs makes a right is not flying with me or the peanut gallery.

People vote with their feet. The Leftists on here do not understand that. Tell me how many gay Canadians apply for refugee status in Muslim countries? We're told that it's just as dangerous (sometimes more) for gays in North America/Europe as it is in the Middle East. Why don't Homosexuals move there en masse instead of moving to certain urban centres in the West? I know why and so does everyone else. Do I think it's tough to grow up gay in places like middle America or rural Canada? Of course it is. Do I think it's a lot tougher to grow up gay in places like Saudi Arabia or almost any other Islamic country? Hell yes

Bill Maher says it best when he demands Liberals to stand up for Western Liberal Values. They will shame people if they hold misogynistic/homophobic values but if you tell them that it's part of your Muslim faith then they will apologize for insulting your religion. The fear of being labelled a racist/bigot is of higher concern to them than a billion + people being liberated from non-secular governments rooted in centuries old belief systems.

New terms like "Islamophobia" are created to silence any criticism of these beliefs

Terb's Low-T Leftist Cuck Brigade eats this shit up

 

[GameBoy27]

Sounds like LE has rounded up the whole family!

 

[SkyRider]

Tom Hardy has started a funding campaign to help the victims.

Wonder what Muslims will do? Same as they did for Mateen?

 

[frankcastle]

Right..we can see the overwhelming sympathy you have expressed towards the people killed and the anger towards the many terrorist attacks. LOL

whats wrong with saying things like there are iver 3 million peaceful muslims in the UK vs the estimated 3k terrorists?

thats a valid point when people are talking about shutting immigration as the solution?

whats wrong with providing proof of muslims condemni g the attack when people claim there is silence.

 

[frankcastle]

There are probably a handful of people in Canada that think it's OK to beat up gays. But they would beat me up too if I crossed them for some reason. It's who they are. But here's the difference. It's not widespread. It's not even slightly uncommon. It's almost nonexistent and if it did happen, you can bet your sweet ass that the system would go all out to catch them and throw them into jail.

I believe a recent poll in the middle east revealed that fully 80 percent of Muslims think that the penalty for homosexuality should be death.

Do you really think that Canada is the same as that?

Do you think that it's 8%, or even 0.08%?

I think you'd be hard pressed to find even 8 people in the entire country (save and except those from Islamic cultures) who would want to kill homosexuals in Canada.

You're argument of 2 wrongs makes a right is not flying with me or the peanut gallery.

i have read your comments but i really cant respond to your estimates as they are just your opinion

it was never about two wrongs making a right.

you showed muslims caning gays and i showed that canadians beat gays as well. both are wrong. it seems like you were trying to show how backwards muslim culture is..... and it is fucked up. But lets not pretend we dont have work as well. That doesnt excuse their actions but it should lower our air of superiority a notch.

i am not going to change your mind so i am bowing out

 

[Aardvark154]

Sounds like LE has rounded up the whole family!

This was quite obviously a group, not a single lone wolf.

 

[FAST]

This was quite obviously a group, not a single lone wolf.

NEVER is a lone wolf,...there is obviously support for the terrorists from within in the community,...anybody who thinks otherwise,...is delusional.