Booking a terb provider through False Identification.

[DB123]

Sorry gents I am not in your position, so for me its pretty straight forward with a provider I want to see. pm, text, real name, whatever.
Mind you if I was in your position, with all these restrictions that you have, I'd think twice about hobbying. If your going to indulge do it all the way,
otherwise you will be limiting yourself s, to the true gems that exist out there. Jmt.

So are you saying that by only seeing SPs who don't make seeing them a headache that many of us are limiting ourselves?

I promise you, I indulge all the way and other than one bizarrely notable instance, have never had an issue or had to divulge anything I wasn't comfortable with.

 

[Titalian]

That pretty much sums it up. why let someone make you dance like some performing circus monkey and grovel and beg .

Excuse me ? Never once was I treated like that by a provider but I was treated that way by my ex wife. What can I say different perspectives.

 

[Titalian]

So are you saying that by only seeing SPs who don't make seeing them a headache that many of us are limiting ourselves?

I promise you, I indulge all the way and other than one bizarrely notable instance, have never had an issue or had to divulge anything I wasn't comfortable with.

DB, first off I only see indies for personal reasons, as you well know, Its just easier for me when I get to talk to someone before we engage.
That's just who I am. But as I explained I'm in a different position. SINGLE ! So for me its not just about getting laid. Hey that's just me.

 

[Barca]

Damn, this is all so very "French Connection". I guess as a consumer of the "bulk" services mostly (ie. Strip Clubs, MPs) which are easily accessible on a whim, I haven't had to deal with this hassle. But as someone who has fantasized that one day I might indulge in the beauties such as Foxxxy Lady or Valeria I have to say the thought of what one has to go through or even where to start seems a bit daunting.

 

[Titalian]

Damn, this is all so very "French Connection". I guess as a consumer of the "bulk" services mostly (ie. Strip Clubs, MPs) which are easily accessible on a whim, I haven't had to deal with this hassle. But as someone who has fantasized that one day I might indulge in the beauties such as Foxxxy Lady or Valeria I have to say the thought of what one has to go through or even where to start seems a bit daunting.

Your either true to your heart or a follower. What I can tell you is, if I find someone one day who grasps my heart, I will be off this board.

 

[Titalian]

Lets see.
hey are you avaiable at X time on Y date.
Sure I'll see you then
Great

Vs Hey are you available at X Time on Y Date
Sure but I'll need to check your references and other stuff
You send like a good little female dog and wait and wait
Ok I will see you.

Fuck that. The worse thing is that you don't realize you are being made to grovel and beg like some performing circus monkey. You do know I mean this figuratively right. Compared to what I go through to see a girl, demanding references and extra information is groveling and begging and oik oik with the banana.


It is as if you have to choose between two strip clubs with the same prices, same decor, same policies and services and equal quality girls.
You could go to the one that just lets you in the door and you can get your drink and your lap dances on or you could go to the one that makes you go through a credit check and tells you to come back tomorrow.

Why go to the second one. It just doesn't make sense.



As would I. However it almost seems as if you are expecting to find someone like that though the industry if one wishes to read [I hope too much] between the lines above. I don't.

I really like it when people try to analyze my words. Especially people who think they have wasted lives :wink:

 

[Lazyhanger]

Sorry gents I am not in your position, so for me its pretty straight forward with a provider I want to see. pm, text, real name, whatever.
Mind you if I was in your position, with all these restrictions that you have, I'd think twice about hobbying. If your going to indulge do it all the way,
otherwise you will be limiting yourself s, to the true gems that exist out there. Jmt.

I think you may want to reread that last sentence. I don't think what you wrote is what you meant. It basically says, if you're not going to indulge all the way, you'll only see the true gems.

That as an aside, all this "references" and terb identity requirements all goes away when the business suffers. If not enough guys will bother, the SP's rules will change. Case in point, I recall a thread some time ago by an SP that complained she was getting stupid questions via text, questions that could be answered by reading her web site. Her rant included the fact that she had removed her phone number from her ad and that she demanded that anyone that wanted to see her had to fill out the application form on her web site. The thread got messy as the SP's attitude really came through. Her telephone number was removed for a period of time but if I look at her ads now, her phone number is back in her ads and there is no mention that a screening form has to be filled. I wouldn't book her just because of that rant but just wanted to make the point that , the market will adjust to what the customer will determine is acceptable.

 

[Titalian]

As would I. However it almost seems as if you are expecting to find someone like that though the industry if one wishes to read [I hope too much] between the lines above. I don't.

Just for the record I didn't necessarily mean an sp. but if that should happen so be it.

 

[wangbang]

+1. Guys no show all the time. Especially when they are new to review boards or a lady is new to their review board there is a lack of mutual respect for providers. Perhaps if guys cut back on the last min cancels or no shows ladies wouldn't be so concerned about getting more information from clients to verifiy they are legitimate.

Very true but let's not pretend that every day God knows how many guys get cancelled on, stood up and/or double booked. When I see the ladies as a collective trying to fix that issue then I will get behind fixing the no show issue.

For anyone to suggest that because a guy won't give up his handle he is somehow "less than ethical" is ludicrous. There are lot's of guys who are good clients but wish to maintain whatever privacy / independence they can. In my many years as a hobbyist I have never given out my handle and have only one no show to my credit. That no show was a payback situation. My self worth doesn't revolve around getting "likes" on the internet.

I've seen Amber, she is a great time but having a two tiered pricing system (handle/no handle) means that the great times are over for me.

All that is going to happen is that more guys will violate board rules and create a second handle for booking purposes. That is something I have considered but rejected as I would rather not engage in game playing of that nature.

 

[Hiding]

So are you saying that by only seeing SPs who don't make seeing them a headache that many of us are limiting ourselves?

I promise you, I indulge all the way and other than one bizarrely notable instance, have never had an issue or had to divulge anything I wasn't comfortable with.

My policy is easy: you show me yours, I'll show you mine. We're both taking a risk here: yours is legal (although minimally), mine is physical. You can know me as Rebecca, I can know you by whatever name you give me. I ask gentlemen to text me when they get to my address (which I provide the day before for planning), so that's also a phone number. As soon as he's gone, the number is deleted. I ask for an email to have at least some small detail about you: my photos are out there, my website is thorough, my blog is active and has insights into who I am, and my Twitter account is busy. I ask for your favourite quote, because 1) it shows me that you have read my site and 2) I get to know a little about you. I think that's fair, and it's less than what I'm offering you.

Is that a headache? Maybe. I love what I get to do, and I'm really good at it. If that's too much of a headache for you to meet me, then yes, you're limiting yourself.

Fuck that. The worse thing is that you don't realize you are being made to grovel and beg like some performing circus monkey. You do know I mean this figuratively right. Compared to what I go through to see a girl, demanding references and extra information is groveling and begging and oik oik with the banana.

I don't think it's groveling; it's someone explaining what they need to feel comfortable. Maybe it's not your taste - there are other options. Everyone has the right to say what they need to be comfortable.

Very true but let's not pretend that every day God knows how many guys get cancelled on, stood up and/or double booked. When I see the ladies as a collective trying to fix that issue then I will get behind fixing the no show issue.

I love this idea, actually. Any ideas how we could go about doing that, outside of not doing it ourselves? An SP collective body would be great!



About the fake references... I've had it both ways. People lying about their handles, and people lying that I've met them. In our current political climate, I don't see much need for having either. Of course they make me more comfortable on some level, but I really care about what you have with me and if you've read my site, not who else you've seen. Plus it's all pretty easy to fake. I'm happy to provide references, and when I get them I DO check them. I also give them when I'm asked.

If someone is truly a terrible experience (and I've got to be honest - I'm privileged and this has never happened), I don't think I would hesitate to share that information with other companions. I also don't think those terrible experiences are reading a thread in the TERB lounge.

When the laws change again, maybe my policies will as well... but so far, they're serving me well.

Sorry that happened, Titalian.

 

[Titalian]

Sorry that happened, Titalian.

No darling not at all. I thank the exceptional providers for giving me a heads up. I would luv to name them, but the issue is closed.

 

[doggystyle99]

I would never book anyone through email, text, or even private message on here. No hobbyist should do this post C-36 as it is a lot more easier for the purchase of sex to be proved in court if ever caught by LE.
I had no issue pre C-36 booking through texts or even email, but post C-36 it is just not a smart thing to do as a hobbyist since the purchase of sex is illegal.

Lately even when I call some indy SP's and they don't answer the phone call they respond by a text, fully and explicitly specifying what their rate is and what services they provide. I would never see such indie's as if any situations were to come up with LE and the phone of these SP's were searched (which they don't need a warrant for as they can search the phone if they believe there is a reason to) as a client you can be charged.
I always tell these indy SP's who I am calling for the first time and they respond back with a text that I would need to speak with them over the phone prior to meeting and to my surprise a lot of them just choose to communicate in a text rather than a personal phone call.

Regardless of who the SP is whether or not I have seen her previously, here is what I will never provide any SP and will never book through:
-Job description
-Home or business address
-Occupation
-Home or business phone number
-Board handle
-Marital status
-Name (real name)
-Real phone number
And I would never book through text or email for lawful purposes. Never through PM on here or any other board so that my identity online and in private are confidential.

And no I am not limiting myself anymore than SP's are limiting themselves by not seeing good clients like me are by asking for such specific personal information or by wanting to book through texts or emails which can be used in court to prove purchase of sex. One thing that every hobbyist should remember and is great about the GTA is that there are so many great SP choices to pick from both indie's and agency girls that if you wanted to see someone different every day for a whole year you could. So providing such information that could be used against you in the courts does not make sense to me.

Anyone who feels comfortable providing all of the above information for whatever reason all the more powers to you, but the fact is if anything were ever to happen with any specific SP I can assure you that you are a way easier target for LE if you do provide all of the above information or book through texts or emails.

 

[TeeJay]

What is also annoying is when gentlemen give providers fake references of other providers they haven't seen, in the hope she won't actually follow up.

Then when several females contact you, you have absolutely no idea who they are speaking of and know for a fact, you have never met said person.

Whoever that is, needs to quit also.

Been happening quite frequently.

I am sure most providers can not remember everyone they saw regardless of how much info they claim to keep

Many big name ones on this board seem clueless (eg Alona M) about past repeat clients (although I suppose it is a good thing since it means nothing strange freaked the girls out)

 

[Titalian]

I am sure most provitders can not remember everyone they saw regardless of how much info they claim to keep

Many big name ones on this board seem clueless (eg Alona M) about past repeat clients (although I suppose it is a good thing since it means nothing strange freaked the girls out)

On your first note, you would be surprised how many remember.
On your second note, maybe nothing spectacular. No offense intended.

 

[ValeriaBeleza]

I am sure most providers can not remember everyone they saw regardless of how much info they claim to keep

To be sure of something, because you had an experience of a provider not remembering, is to not be sure at all. There are many independent providers that their intent and way of connecting with customers goes beyond getting through the session and that is what I think is the take away from this conversation or this thread; fact is that each provider chooses how to screen clients based on the clients she wants to see. I think that if I ask questions (without going into asking for private/personal life details) is because I want to learn more about my customer. If i take the time to learn about my customer and he takes the time to answer then, in my opinion, it will be A better rendezvous.

 

[Ditsy]

Funny this thread is ongoing, I've been away from home and vacationing out in the Far East the last couple of weeks and when I logged in today for the first time since I left toronto,I got two PMs from two different providers here , one thanking me for a good time last week and the other to confirm my handle.. Lol . Both of whom I have never met nor contacted before.
Does that mean my account got hacked or is it just a case of mistaken identity ??

 

[Titalian]

Funny this thread is ongoing, I've been away from home and vacationing out in the Far East the last couple of weeks and when I logged in today for the first time since I left toronto,I got two PMs from two different providers here , one thanking me for a good time last week and the other to confirm my handle.. Lol . Both of whom I have never met nor contacted before.
Does that mean my account got hacked or is it just a case of mistaken identity ??

This one here concerns me. But it turns out he was a good client. Maybe you should go meet that provider. Lol

 

[foxxxy lady]

Very true but let's not pretend that every day God knows how many guys get cancelled on, stood up and/or double booked. When I see the ladies as a collective trying to fix that issue then I will get behind fixing the no show issue.

For anyone to suggest that because a guy won't give up his handle he is somehow "less than ethical" is ludicrous. There are lot's of guys who are good clients but wish to maintain whatever privacy / independence they can. In my many years as a hobbyist I have never given out my handle and have only one no show to my credit. That no show was a payback situation. My self worth doesn't revolve around getting "likes" on the internet.

I've seen Amber, she is a great time but having a two tiered pricing system (handle/no handle) means that the great times are over for me.

All that is going to happen is that more guys will violate board rules and create a second handle for booking purposes. That is something I have considered but rejected as I would rather not engage in game playing of that nature.

I will miss you terribly :Cry:


xo

 

[foxxxy lady]

Funny this thread is ongoing, I've been away from home and vacationing out in the Far East the last couple of weeks and when I logged in today for the first time since I left toronto,I got two PMs from two different providers here , one thanking me for a good time last week and the other to confirm my handle.. Lol . Both of whom I have never met nor contacted before.
Does that mean my account got hacked or is it just a case of mistaken identity ??

oops :embarassed:

xo

 

[IM469]

For anyone to suggest that because a guy won't give up his handle he is somehow "less than ethical" is ludicrous. There are lot's of guys who are good clients but wish to maintain whatever privacy / independence they can. In my many years as a hobbyist I have never given out my handle and have only one no show to my credit. That no show was a payback situation. My self worth doesn't revolve around getting "likes" on the internet.

I never giver my handle out during SC, MP or SP visits. It would compromise my ability to provide a fair rating. I have only acknowledged my handle occasionally during Terb social gatherings. There have been exceptions but they are rare.