Blue Jays: 2015 edition
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Yes. Sorry I didn't see this when I commented earlier. I used to just call Oliver "OG". I forgot his name.
I think Hawkins is the same type of guy.
I think he is a really good addition to our team.
I think when AA works his last day with the Jays, they'll say he started off doing a really great job; but, then he went completely psycho and destroyed the team by trading away all the top prospects for a bunch of old guys who didn't have enough in them to help out this team.
Seen this movie many times already.
Seen this movie many times already.
This view I used to agree with, as I thought they should have fired the Jays GM two years ago.
However, I think he should stay.
Look at it this way. The team he has assembled, with spare parts, and players who became good with the Jays, is the best offensive team in baseball. No one is better this year.
The problem is obvious for the Jays, that is starting pitching is very average.
If the Jays want top starters, they must either get lucky and develop them or pay up. The best starting pitcher the Jays developed was probably Dave Stieb. The best starting pitcher KC developed lately was Zach Greinke. The best starting pitcher the LA Dodgers developed recently is Clayton Kershaw.
Point is, developing your own starters, the real aces, just does not happen that often for any team.
Look at the team currently in first place in the division, the damn New York Yankess. Their starting pitching staff, Pineda - Seattle, Tanaka - Japan, Sabathia - Cleveland, Nova - New York. The Yankees rotation, they bought like everyone else instead of developing in house. Only Ian Nova was developed in the Yankees organization.
Rogers Communications, is too cheap to go out and buy starting pitching. That is the biggest problem.
Bautista, EE, Donaldson, now Tulowiski, that is a damn good lineup. But the starting rotation is very very average at best.
Please don't forget that many pitchers don't WANT to come to Toronto. It is a hitters park. It is a foreign country to The American players. They think they will have to pay huge taxes. And crossing the border for every away game can be a problem.
They have to trade for them. And it's tough to get real quality starters in trades.
They have to trade for them. And it's tough to get real quality starters in trades.
They had a top of the rotation ace in their system named Noah Syndergaard; but, AA went completely psycho and tossed him into the garbage can one day for no good reason.
Never trust a fat guy to do an important job for you. They're self destructive and will blow everything all to hell when they get bored.
That's my take on AA.
Name a trade that didn't make the team better or that didn't work out for AA.
Let me guess...your going to say Noah Syndergaard right? While R.A dickey hasn't been lights out, Noah Syndergaard is 4-5 with and ERA of 2.97 so while those are respectable numbers, right now he's still a losing pitcher. We also got Reyes in that trade which now has turned into Troy Tulo. So other than Noah Syndergaard, which one of these blue chip prospects that AA has traded away have done anything? Prospects are just that, prospects....
Prospects are a lottery. Veterans are a lottery, albeit not as much of one as prospects - see Boston this year. Baseball is unpredictable - see Detroit, Boston, etc. AA at least takes risks and shakes things up.
And the loss yesterday was an offensive loss, not pitching. The team scored 2 runs. That's a loss in baseball more often than not.
The trades are tough to debate, there will be pundits on both sides. However, the one fact that remains is that the current GM's teams have had very limited on field success. Every opposing team in the division has made the playoffs multiple times in AA's tenure. His teams have not.
I can hear the cries now.... Rogers is cheap, they hamstring the GM! Well the Rays have made the playoffs 3 times in the past 5 with a shoestring budget and no ability to add significant payroll and the Orioles won the division last year operating $30mln below the Jays.
At what point does on field success matter?
Trades are suppose to improve a team and make them winners. Show me the trade that got the Jays to the playoffs!
AA has been successful at making the Jays a .500 team and keeping them at that level.
I wasn't necessarily arguing that AA is a good or bad GM, my point was in response to Kilgore Trout's comment that AA will be remembered and being a "psycho and destroyed the team by trading away all the top prospects for a bunch of old guys".
Having said that, AA got this job at the end of 2009. So basically 2010 was his real first year. I don't think 5 years is long enough to for most GM's. It takes time to build a winning organization. The blue jays started in 77, and didn't make the post season until 85. I like what he does. He refuses to get locked into long term ridiculous contracts that fucks up your team years down the road, and he's very creative with his trades. The is the guy that some how traded away the un-tradeable contract A.K.A, Vernon Wells.
You have told us that Colabello can't process information. Perhaps he is just not a talented fielder. He is probably a better fielder than you, but I haven't called you stupid. Yet.
You told us that AA has ADD. Another brilliant analysis. That clearly explains everything he does. I'm not sure you have the qualifications or sufficient information gathered to determine if AA has ADD, but you make the statement anyway. And I still haven't called you stupid. Yet.
Then you make your fat guy comment. I am overweight and you have insulted me and my ability to "get something done" without even knowing me. NOW, I'm calling you stupid.
You can't fix a problem if you don't know the problem exists. Now that you've been informed, let's really find out if you can or can't fix stupid.
