BLM TO to purchase 10,000 square foot building for use as new community hub

SerialKyler

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Give it a year and then we'll start to hear about missing funds , unpaid utility bills and big BLM cash bonuses paid to themselves .
Then it will be social media campaigns for more money and how it's all the white mans fault.
Just like the Student Councils at U of T and Ryerson - the pale and scared made way for more diverse faces and voices and pretty soon money went missing and thieves complained of racism once caught.
 

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The problem really with the BLM is that, they point the blame on someone other than the internal structure (family). I have never seen them acknowledge mistakes done by parents and communities...it has always been LE & White people...you won't hear those grievances from Asians, Indians and Middle Eastern....I don't know much about Indegenous though,
It's easy to blame "the system" as they always do. The problem is more that there are enough whites dumb enough to fall for plain ruses and scams. It's time to stop being dummies and ATMs.
 
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I would respect the building more if it was all lives matter. I have mentioned once before in another thread, specific attention like this will draw problems from specifc groups. What year that will occur, who knows. Shame. Good intentions but not the way to do it...
Maybe not all races are equally benevolent? Face it, your white life means absolutely nothing to billions of people so why should you care about theirs?
 

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Black Lives Matter. Indigenous Lives Matter. And yes, you can say All Lives Matter but that is disingenuous when the topic is systemic racism. White middle class folks have it easy relative to visible minorities. (I'm white, male, middle class).

But ... I take issue with the reluctance of both these communities to mitigate their problems.

A basic education, close family ties and hard work continue to be the fundamental blocks of success. The literacy rate, divorce rate, single parent family rate and unemployment levels in these communities continues to be worse than the general population including other visible minorities such as Asians, Indians, Middle Eastern.

More importantly is the issue of violent crime. Today, the greatest danger to a young black or indigenous man is another young black / indigenous man. Not the police (though I denounce the treatment the community has received from LE over the last 100 years.). If and when I hear BLM and Indigenous Leaders honestly address this topic in addition to their other grievances I'll start to pay more attention. And if they encouraged education and familial responsibilities as well.

And before you blame the stupid white guy ... all the points I made above were made by Obama and MLK.
This is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here I awhile
Every immigrant group lives a beautiful life here
Markham - very Asian
Brampton - very south Asian
Woodbridge - very Italian
Danforth - still very Greek European
The only people I see in Toronto that do t live their best lives is the lazy fucks of all races

Our immigration minister is Somalian
Health minister -Viet I believe ( sorry if I’m wrong there )
Different minority’s is every level of government?
What the fuck do you want white people to do leave ?
Common man let’s be honest Canada is the shining light in the world
You can still buy a house for your family and pay it off in your lifetime ( getting harder yes)
You can fuck whoever you want nobody really cares have a look at pride festivals?
I’m so over the systemic BS
the Canadian government brings in people from all over the world when was the last time you saw an influx of Australians ? British ? Or anyone we call white ? But if you have any colour you are allowed to come in droves ( which is cool cause that just keeps me employed)
All I see is people from all over the world driving high end euro cars on the 401
So where is everyone being hard done by
 
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NotADcotor

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But BLM exists for a specific purpose - specifically to support blacks
Yeah, no.
If it did it would actually give a shit about the vast majority of blacks being killed by other blacks and not just the ones who get killed by cops [almost always by doing something real stupid].
They would care about the disintegration of the black family instead of trying to tear it down further [although even they figured that didn't sell well as they took it off their web page]
They would fight hard against the concept of whiteness and how doing well in school and being on time means you are acting white.

BLM is only about 2 things
1: Deflecting blame about the problems within the black community to other people.
2: Vilifying the police and other authority structures. Even if they have to straight up lie and mislead to do it.

Oh and I guess profit.
 

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Yeah, no.
If it did it would actually give a shit about the vast majority of blacks being killed by other blacks and not just the ones who get killed by cops [almost always by doing something real stupid].
They would care about the disintegration of the black family instead of trying to tear it down further [although even they figured that didn't sell well as they took it off their web page]
They would fight hard against the concept of whiteness and how doing well in school and being on time means you are acting white.

BLM is only about 2 things
1: Deflecting blame about the problems within the black community to other people.
2: Vilifying the police and other authority structures. Even if they have to straight up lie and mislead to do it.

Oh and I guess profit.
Crime and shootings is through the roof now in the major cities across the USA
Defund the police is working wonders
No mention of who is running rampant shooting people at will ?
People need to held accountable for their actions
Our major lefty city leaders will bend over and probably sell the building for a dollar lol
 

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Maybe not all races are equally benevolent? Face it, your white life means absolutely nothing to billions of people so why should you care about theirs?
All three points you made are weak and wrong. Thx for telling us about the various benevolance levels that we already know about. I'm not perfectly white either so your assumption is wrong and technically even worse, but I'm not sensitive so no worries, and you thinking I don't care is another wrong. Basically, you had nothing to offer but wanted to react anyway.
 

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This 'hardcore lefty city' has consistently elected a majority of right wing, center right and centrist councilors for years.

This 'lefty city' label is a myth.
Kind of like Asian Nazis - As if we will ever see one of those in Toronto.
 

SerialKyler

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All three points you made are weak and wrong. Thx for telling us about the various benevolance levels that we already know about. I'm not perfectly white either so your assumption is wrong and technically even worse, but I'm not sensitive so no worries, and you thinking I don't care is another wrong. Basically, you had nothing to offer but wanted to react anyway.
It's more logical to presume that across the many races there is not equal benevolence. That's easier to prove, if one had to, than that the races possess benevolence in equal amounts.

Whites are the only people anywhere to actually pay people of other races to move to their countries, take their jobs, buy their houses and then turn around and be completely ungrateful. I think it's stupid but a lot of people would call it benevolence.

And yes, it's just obvious at this point that many people (and I didn't say you) not only don't care about whites but would like to see us vanish.
 

NotADcotor

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Kind of like Asian Nazis - As if we will ever see one of those in Toronto.
Weird thing is there are Nazi and Hitler fanboys in Poland and Russia.
Talk about not getting the message.
I can see someone from there being a fan of fascism. I can even see them being fans of the Nazi style fascism but Slav instead of German focus.
But to jerk off over Hitler and the National Socialist German Workers part is a special level of self loathing.

On the other hand there are people into the the sub end of BDSM so meh.
 

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Weird thing is there are Nazi and Hitler fanboys in Poland and Russia.
Talk about not getting the message.
I can see someone from there being a fan of fascism. I can even see them being fans of the Nazi style fascism but Slav instead of German focus.
But to jerk off over Hitler and the National Socialist German Workers part is a special level of self loathing.

On the other hand there are people into the the sub end of BDSM so meh.
Dude, the joke went right over you...



























See Phil's thread...
 

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Maybe you should read the founding member’s manifesto?

it’s right there in black and white.

I can’t fix stupid.
Read their demands. There is nothing Marxist about any of them you fucking moron:


BLM Demands
ADD YOUR NAME TO CO-SIGN BLM’S 7 DEMANDS

BLM’s 7 Demands
1. Convict and ban Trump from future political office:
We are joining Rep. Ilhan Omar, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, Rep. Cori Bush, Rep. Jamaal Bowman, and others who are demanding Trump be immediately convicted in the United States Senate. Trump must also be banned from holding elected office in the future. Call your members of Congress and demand they support conviction by dialing (202) 224-3121.

2. Expel Republican members of Congress who attempted to overturn the election and incited a white supremacist attack:
More than half the Republican representatives and multiple senators stoked Trump’s conspiracy theories and encouraged the white supremacists to take action to overturn the election. We are supporting Rep. Cori Bush’s resolution to expel them from Congress for their dangerous and traitorous actions. We also support steps to bar them from seeking another office.

3. Launch a full investigation into the ties between white supremacy and the Capitol Police, law enforcement, and the military:
The Capitol was able to be breached and overrun by white supremacists attempting to disrupt a political process that is fundamental to our democracy. We know that police departments have been a safe haven for white supremacists to hide malintent behind a badge, because the badge was created for that purpose. We also know off-duty cops and military were among the mob at the Capitol on January 6th. Guilty parties need to be held accountable and fired. We are supporting Rep. Jamaal Bowman’s COUP Act to investigate these connections.

4. Permanently ban Trump from all digital media platforms:
Trump has always used his digital media platforms recklessly and irresponsibly to spread lies and disinformation. Now it is clearer than ever that his digital media is also used to incite violence and promote its continuation. He must be stopped from encouraging his mob and further endangering our communities, even after inauguration.

5. Defund the police:
The police that met our BLM protestors this summer with assault rifles, teargas, and military-grade protective gear were the same police that, on Wednesday, met white supremacists with patience and the benefit of the doubt, going so far as to pose for selfies with rioters. The contrast was jarring, but not for Black people. We have always known who the police truly protect and serve. D.C. has the most police per capita in the country; more funding is not the solution.

6. Don’t let the coup be used as an excuse to crack down on our movement:
In response to the coup, Politicians have already introduced the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2021. We’ve seen this playbook before. These laws are used to target Black and brown communities for heightened surveillance. Republicans are already busy trying to create an equivalence between the mob on January 6th and our Freedom Summer. We don’t need new domestic terror laws, facial recognition, or any other new police power for the state. Our government should protect righteous protest and stay focused on the real issue: rooting out white supremacy. There are enough laws, resources, and intelligence, but they were not used to stop the coup. Our elected officials must uncover why.

7. Pass the BREATHE Act:
The police were born out of slave patrols. We cannot reform an institution built upon white supremacy. We need a new, radical approach to public safety and community investment. President Biden has already drawn on the BREATHE Act in his executive actions calling for racial equity screens in federal programs, investing in environmental justice at historic levels, and engaging with system-impacted communities. The BREATHE Act paints a vision of a world where Black lives matter through investments in housing, education, health, and environmental justice.
 

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PolitiFact | Is Black Lives Matter a Marxist movement?

"We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists.
There are Marxist organizers in the NDP so that makes the party Marxist? There are Marxists in every social democratic movement in the world but they do not have Marxist programs. There are fascist sympathizer in the Conservative Party does that make the party fascist? This is just lazy thinking. Read the demands and the program not the agenda of particular organizers. There is nothing remotely Marxist about any of their demands. Nothing.

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Togliatti, Gramsci would not recognize a single stitch of Marxism in the program. They would find it laughably reformist And doomed to failure. It seems Marxism is just a label to say something is bad and no thought required just like the left labels things as Nazi with no thought required.
 

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Dude, the joke went right over you...

See Phil's thread...
Dude, I don't read every thread. Also if it's the Phil I am thinking of I have him on ignore.
 

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There are Marxist organizers in the NDP so that makes the party Marxist? There are Marxists in every social democratic movement in the world but they do not have Marxist programs. There are fascist sympathizer in the Conservative Party does that make the party fascist? This is just lazy thinking. Read the demands and the program not the agenda of particular organizers. There is nothing remotely Marxist about any of their demands. Nothing.

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Togliatti, Gramsci would not recognize a single stitch of Marxism in the program. They would find it laughably reformist And doomed to failure. It seems Marxism is just a label to say something is bad and no thought required just like the left labels things as Nazi with no thought required.
thanks for supporting my point that they are Marxist’s.

great job, you should post the link too, to be thorough.
 
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Sounds like a great idea, but wow $8.2m. Surely a more cost effective, and more accessible location could be selected....

If they cough up money, the City better include a lien on the building that requires it to operate as planned for at least 5-10 years meeting some minimum performance metrics.

Black Lives Matter to purchase 10,000 square foot building for use as new community hub | CP24.com

A 10,000 square foot building in downtown Toronto will soon be transformed into a new community activism and creative space operated by Black Lives Matter.

The organization, which was borne as a largely grassroots movement, has announced plans to purchase the property at 24 Cecil Street for use as a community hub.

The Wildseed Centre for Art & Activism will replace a much smaller rented space that Black Lives Matter had operated out of a building on Geary Avenue for the past year-and-a-half.

Organizers with Black Lives Matter say that the new space at 24 Cecil Street will include meeting rooms, a community kitchen, a recording studio, a dance studio and will also host a range of programming....

It is not entirely clear how the purchase of the building is being funded, though Coun. Mike Layton is expected to move a motion at a council meeting next week to have the city contribute $250,000 to help fund the project.

A real estate listing for 24 Cecil Street lists the asking price for the building as $8.2 million.

My Opinion:
BLM TO may have been borne as a largely grassroots movement, but if the organization can somehow finance the purchase of an $8.2 million piece of Toronto real estate, it is way beyond a grassroots movement now....and I don't know why Mike Layton thinks the City of Toronto should kick-in $250,000 of taxpayer money in order to help a private social advocacy/protest group make this purchase.
 

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Sounds like a great idea, but wow $8.2m. Surely a more cost effective, and more accessible location could be selected....

If they cough up money, the City better include a lien on the building that requires it to operate as planned for at least 5-10 years meeting some minimum performance metrics.
City of Toronto giving away tax $ to virtue signal on this real estate project is 100% wrong, while sending tax $ to actual disadvantaged neighbourhoods is not an issue.
Let's see what happens - wrong location to make a meaningful community impact. Will require huge annual capital costs and operating expenses.
Keep an eye on this one...
Note that GreenPeace and USW have large office buildings across the street. Those are head offices, not community hubs.
 
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