BLM TO to purchase 10,000 square foot building for use as new community hub

[richaceg]

Black Lives Matter. Indigenous Lives Matter. And yes, you can say All Lives Matter but that is disingenuous when the topic is systemic racism. White middle class folks have it easy relative to visible minorities. (I'm white, male, middle class).

But ... I take issue with the reluctance of both these communities to mitigate their problems.

A basic education, close family ties and hard work continue to be the fundamental blocks of success. The literacy rate, divorce rate, single parent family rate and unemployment levels in these communities continues to be worse than the general population including other visible minorities such as Asians, Indians, Middle Eastern.

More importantly is the issue of violent crime. Today, the greatest danger to a young black or indigenous man is another young black / indigenous man. Not the police (though I denounce the treatment the community has received from LE over the last 100 years.). If and when I hear BLM and Indigenous Leaders honestly address this topic in addition to their other grievances I'll start to pay more attention. And if they encouraged education and familial responsibilities as well.

And before you blame the stupid white guy ... all the points I made above were made by Obama and MLK.

The problem really with the BLM is that, they point the blame on someone other than the internal structure (family). I have never seen them acknowledge mistakes done by parents and communities...it has always been LE & White people...you won't hear those grievances from Asians, Indians and Middle Eastern....I don't know much about Indegenous though,

 

[NotADcotor]

Pimping ain't easy. However pumping dead black criminals is very profitable.

 

[bazokajoe]

Black Lives Matter to purchase 10,000 square foot building for use as new community hub | CP24.com

A 10,000 square foot building in downtown Toronto will soon be transformed into a new community activism and creative space operated by Black Lives Matter.

The organization, which was borne as a largely grassroots movement, has announced plans to purchase the property at 24 Cecil Street for use as a community hub.

The Wildseed Centre for Art & Activism will replace a much smaller rented space that Black Lives Matter had operated out of a building on Geary Avenue for the past year-and-a-half.

Organizers with Black Lives Matter say that the new space at 24 Cecil Street will include meeting rooms, a community kitchen, a recording studio, a dance studio and will also host a range of programming....

It is not entirely clear how the purchase of the building is being funded, though Coun. Mike Layton is expected to move a motion at a council meeting next week to have the city contribute $250,000 to help fund the project.

A real estate listing for 24 Cecil Street lists the asking price for the building as $8.2 million.

My Opinion: BLM TO may have been borne as a largely grassroots movement, but if the organization can somehow finance the purchase of an $8.2 million piece of Toronto real estate, it is way beyond a grassroots movement now....and I don't know why Mike Layton thinks the City of Toronto should kick-in $250,000 of taxpayer money in order to help a private social advocacy/protest group make this purchase.

I'm sure there will be an exemption for property tax, Provincial and Federal money to.
And if they don't get they will just cry racism and protest until they do.
It's going to be a cash cow for someone.

 

[Darts]

The folks running "BLM Corporation" are no fools. They know darn well that the potential for capital appreciation is far greater in that location than in the other locations suggested by our members.

 

[jcpro]

Toronto is a hardcore lefty city. Coming soon to your neighbourhood will be a tax on vacant houses. I fear that the lefties will then come up with a tax on "under-utilized" houses.

Or even better- subdivide McMansions because nobody needs 10, 000 Sq foot home. Far fetched? The last century socialists already tried that and "solved" the housing problem. Of course they didn't solve anything became populations do not remain static and cities need constant construction and investment.

 

[y2kmark]

How can you speak for Torontonians? You are an American living in the U.S. and commenting on a Canadian website as a some kind of a pseudo-expert.

Just making a comment. If someone like you lived in my town I'd want them to move as well. On second thought, though, Texas would be better...

 

[canada-man]

The problem really with the BLM is that, they point the blame on someone other than the internal structure (family). I have never seen them acknowledge mistakes done by parents and communities...it has always been LE & White people...you won't hear those grievances from Asians, Indians and Middle Eastern....I don't know much about Indegenous though,

Those groups you listed are more anti-black.

 

[rex_baner]

The problem really with the BLM is that, they point the blame on someone other than the internal structure (family). I have never seen them acknowledge mistakes done by parents and communities...it has always been LE & White people...you won't hear those grievances from Asians, Indians and Middle Eastern....I don't know much about Indegenous though,

My issue with BLM.... seriously... the amount of donations they got... how much is going to help the community....

on your points... Its silly to compare apples and oranges.

I love telling people to listen to chocolate rain. its interesting because it still applies and catchy. Overall its Easier to just read on up scholar documents on the topic...Less bias more facts. But in truth this entire discussion is a mobius strip... you simply have to choose which end you care to be on.

"they never try to build their community" ...The Greenwood district, Oklahoma before 1920 enters the ring. Black panthers enter the ring.
" Its their families fault" .... "war on drugs which crippled generations... enters the ring....some people deny the war on drugs, but...

indigenous Canadians though.... I actually can tell you I had absolutely. NO idea about what happened to them. None... Not until I started dating one back in 2016. It wasn't taught at all...
I find there is an interesting correlation between the black community and Indigenous community..... Who do we point blame on>?

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

A basic education, close family ties and hard work continue to be the fundamental blocks of success. The literacy rate, divorce rate, single parent family rate and unemployment levels in these communities continues to be worse...

You won't get any instruction on that at this community hub either. The only thing they'll teach are styles of clothes to dress in, recording and dance studios that teach young Blacks into believing they can only sing and dance. Notice that even in the article these things are the focus... everything else is an afterthought and put into a "range of programming", which are weasel words to describe empty programming. Programming that says "you're a victim" on repeat, yet nothing about how to improve one's lot in life.

Why can't there be classes on the importance of family, financial literacy, and how to start a business... all those fundamental building blocks that translate into prosperity and independence? That's never the focus because this is not intended to help anyone besides the people holding the purse strings. As others have said, this is a simple real estate play/flip for financial gain by the owners.

Organizers with Black Lives Matter say that the new space at 24 Cecil Street will include meeting rooms, a community kitchen, a recording studio, a dance studio and will also host a range of programming....

 

[Anbarandy]

You won't get any instruction on that at this community hub either. The only thing they'll teach are styles of clothes to dress in, recording and dance studios that teach young Blacks into believing they can only sing and dance. Notice that even in the article these things are the focus... everything else is an afterthought and put into a "range of programming", which are weasel words to describe empty programming. Programming that says "you're a victim" on repeat, yet nothing about how to improve one's lot in life.

Why can't their be classes on the importance of family, financial literacy, and how to start a business... all those fundamental building blocks that translate into prosperity and independence? That's never the focus because this is not intended to help anyone besides the people holding the purse strings. As others have said, this is a simple real estate play/flip for financial gain by the owners.

Are you black?

 

[jazzbox]

Between this and the millions to be spent on renaming Dundas Street, all I can say is I'm glad I don't live in Toronto and contribute to the municipal tax base.

My townhome is 2000 sq feet. How is this a problem? Oh right…it is about black people. But, a genocidal Catholic Church has property that would make Trump jealous and gets charitable status and tax exemptions up the ying yang. No problem.

 

[JackBurton]

You won't get any instruction on that at this community hub either. The only thing they'll teach are styles of clothes to dress in, recording and dance studios that teach young Blacks into believing they can only sing and dance. Notice that even in the article these things are the focus... everything else is an afterthought and put into a "range of programming", which are weasel words to describe empty programming. Programming that says "you're a victim" on repeat, yet nothing about how to improve one's lot in life.

Why can't their be classes on the importance of family, financial literacy, and how to start a business... all those fundamental building blocks that translate into prosperity and independence? That's never the focus because this is not intended to help anyone besides the people holding the purse strings. As others have said, this is a simple real estate play/flip for financial gain by the owners.

Yuuuuuup.

A 10 million $ building to give a stable of 15 artists the room to teach “arts”?

Listen, I’m all for the arts, but this is just a smoke screen for a real estate investment to hide $.

The founder of BLM has already been snapping up luxury properties in LA, has a book and movie deal. It seems that “Marxism” pays very well even if they don’t read history or understand the fundamental values of Marxism.

 

[masspref]

I don't think anyone disagrees that "all lives matter." But the point is that really in our society no one has to be reminded that white lives matter. "Black Lives Matter" is an inclusive reminder rather than an exclusive statement.

Having said that, spending $8.2 million to purchase a building is, in my opinion, a bad idea that will cost BLM some of the support they have, as will having the city kick in for it. Just bad optics, period.

I can only agree with you in part. So the issue with that is you only mention black and white. A lot of us feel that BLM is not inclusive at all. Many have referenced asian and middle-eastern, etc doing things for themselves and not complaining.

 

[jazzbox]

Yuuuuuup.

A 10 million $ building to give a stable of 15 artists the room to teach “arts”?

Listen, I’m all for the arts, but this is just a smoke screen for a real estate investment to hide $.

The founder of BLM has already been snapping up luxury properties in LA, has a book and movie deal. It seems that “Marxism” pays very well even if they don’t read history or understand the fundamental values of Marxism.

10 million dollars is chump change in almost any Canadian market. My townhome can sell for close to a million…


And how is BLM Marxist? Any Marxist would tell you they are not remotely Marxist. Stop reciting Rebel Media talking points. I have never heard them call for the sociialization of the means of production, nor have they called for the violent overthrow the capitalist class. They have not formed a revolutionary party nor have the infiltrated the union movement. They are not members of the 4th International. I have never heard one of them recite or reference Marxist theory or philosophy. You should engage your brain before you type not afterwards…

 

[Bumblaster]

Are you black?

He's black but identifies as white

 

[jazzbox]

He's black but identifies as white

What would Jordan Peterson say to that?

 

[canada-man]

10 million dollars is chump change in almost any Canadian market. My townhome can sell for close to a million…


And how is BLM Marxist? Any Marxist would tell you they are not remotely Marxist. Stop reciting Rebel Media talking points. I have never heard them call for the sociialization of the means of production, nor have they called for the violent overthrow the capitalist class. They have not formed a revolutionary party nor have the infiltrated the union movement. They are not members of the 4th International. I have never heard one of them recite or reference Marxist theory or philosophy. You should engage your brain before you type not afterwards…

PolitiFact | Is Black Lives Matter a Marxist movement?

"We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists.

 

[Spunky1]

Give it a year and then we'll start to hear about missing funds , unpaid utility bills and big BLM cash bonuses paid to themselves .
Then it will be social media campaigns for more money and how it's all the white mans fault.

 

[JackBurton]

10 million dollars is chump change in almost any Canadian market. My townhome can sell for close to a million…


And how is BLM Marxist? Any Marxist would tell you they are not remotely Marxist. Stop reciting Rebel Media talking points. I have never heard them call for the sociialization of the means of production, nor have they called for the violent overthrow the capitalist class. They have not formed a revolutionary party nor have the infiltrated the union movement. They are not members of the 4th International. I have never heard one of them recite or reference Marxist theory or philosophy. You should engage your brain before you type not afterwards…

Maybe you should read the founding member’s manifesto?

it’s right there in black and white.

I can’t fix stupid.

 

[SerialKyler]

Toronto is a hardcore lefty city. Coming soon to your neighbourhood will be a tax on vacant houses. I fear that the lefties will then come up with a tax on "under-utilized" houses.

I have lived in Vancouver and in Toronto and even Vancouver is more conservative and reasonable. Toronto has committed suicide.It has gone to the dogs. I don't care how much money one can make on real estate here - it's not worth it. I am planning to leave.