BLM blocks Yonge and Dundas this morning at 9 am.

[Twister]

I doubt they will get any support operating this way. Can the police not arrested them for doing that, or anyone can block the roads and get away with it?

The intersection of Yonge and Dundas Streets has reopened following a protest by Black Lives Matter Toronto.
The group had lines of protesters holding hands during Monday morning rush hour at 9 a.m.
They were protesting the death of an Ottawa man who died after being arrested by police last month.

http://www.680news.com/2016/08/15/black-lives-matter-protest-block-entire-yonge-dundas-intersection/

 

[Brill]

I hope they continue to get their point across, things need to change.

Cops are still harassing blacks because of their colour.

 

[canada-man]

why are they still ignoring the recent shooting of blacks in Rexdale? they were and are still silent on the murders of 3 black men and one 16 year old black boy in March 2014 in rexdale

 

[franci]

I hope they continue to get their point across, things need to change.

Cops are still harassing blacks because of their colour.

What does the death of an Ottawa man have to do with Toronto Police. There protest should have been in Ottawa.

 

[Twister]

I hope they continue to get their point across, things need to change.

Cops are still harassing blacks because of their colour.

They can still try to get their point across, if what they did was legal fine, but if not they're abusive.

 

[fuji]

They can still try to get their point across, if what they did was legal fine, but if not they're abusive.

Legal. Enshrined right to protest. Police would have moved them off after a reasonable amount of time to make their point and no judge would convict under those circumstances.

Whether this kind of thing and the PRIDE disruption turns the public against them is another question.

 

[Twister]

Legal. Enshrined right to protest. Police would have moved them off after a reasonable amount of time to make their point and no judge would convict under those circumstances.

Whether this kind of thing and the PRIDE disruption turns the public against them is another question.

Ok thats what I was looking for, but I remember years ago Mohawks that blocked the 401 and the G20 protesters were arrested. Maybe different circumstances.

 

[bazokajoe]

When there are protests like this they have the opposite effect on me. It pisses me off that people have the sense of entitlement to disrupt other peoples lives with total disregard. Much like the G20 protesters who trashed downtown then cried when they were rounded up the next day.
Protest all they want,it won't change my opinion.

 

[anon1]

Damn, did your people say the same thing to MLK at Birmingham?

 

[Occasionally]

Never understood why protesters don't all get round up immediately by cops for causing a hassle.

If I decided to interfere with traffic by standing in the middle of the road/intersection, someone would call the cops and I'd get arrested. Or at minimum, dragged off by the cop so that traffic can continue. And maybe I'd get a ticket or something minor.

But when protesters do it, why do cops usually just stand there and do nothing? Can someone answer? Are cops too afraid to take on 50 protesters?

 

[fuji]

Never understood why protesters don't all get round up immediately by cops for causing a hassle.

If I decided to interfere with traffic by standing in the middle of the road/intersection, someone would call the cops and I'd get arrested. Or at minimum, dragged off by the cop so that traffic can continue. And maybe I'd get a ticket or something minor.

But when protesters do it, why do cops usually just stand there and do nothing? Can someone answer? Are cops too afraid to take on 50 protesters?

Because they actually have a right to protest.

 

[Occasionally]

Because they actually have a right to protest.

So if I held a sign and stood in the middle of the st at Yonge and Dundas, I could legally cause disruption even though I'm just one guy?

 

[fuji]

So if I held a sign and stood in the middle of the st at Yonge and Dundas, I could legally cause disruption even though I'm just one guy?

I think you can think this through on your own. I have faith in your ability to learn about these issues.

 

[Occasionally]

When there are protests like this they have the opposite effect on me. It pisses me off that people have the sense of entitlement to disrupt other peoples lives with total disregard. Much like the G20 protesters who trashed downtown then cried when they were rounded up the next day.
Protest all they want,it won't change my opinion.

Agreed.

The funny thing about protesters who cause disruption is that it always has a negative effect on their image. Although, they may or may not care. But ultimately they should.

It's not different than postal works, transit works, auto workers striking and causing disruption to products and services. Or those old videos of auto workers trashing cars of management or scabs trying to keep the company running when the rest of the workforce isn't working. Or taxis clogging streets upset at Uber.

What you get is few people taking their side. People make fun of them, people verbally abuse them, some people splash coffee at them, you name it. You want to act like an ass? Then you should expect others to treat you like an ass.

On the other hand, people who peacefully protest and negotiate behind the scenes trying to achieve their goal (without pissing people off) rarely get the same treatment. Docs seem pissed off lately at funding. Where's all the docss shutting down offices, or telling patients to go home sick? I don't see it.

Docs, paramedics, pilots, etc.... they've all striked and protest for bigger money years back at some point. But they don't just all sit at home and screw people over. Nor do they hold signs and make asses of themselves disrupting people's lives.

There's a way to make a point, and a way not to. And the more whiney and disruptive it is, it shows they are weak and resort to selfish antics to get their way.

 

[K Douglas]

Because they actually have a right to protest.

The right to protest doesn't mean you are allowed to block traffic at rush hour.

 

[just4]

Can citizens charge BLM leaders in civil court due to lost wages etc as a civil suit. Shandy Hudson has 1/4 million form U of T student union so she could pay it.

 

[fuji]

The right to protest doesn't mean you are allowed to block traffic at rush hour.

Wrong. Their right to use the road for their protest is equal to your right to use it to commute. It's a public space, you don't own it either.

The courts (and police) will seek a reasonable balance between allowing the protest and permitting other road use. They will route traffic around, ensure that emergency vehicles get through, and if necessary limit the duration of the protest.

But they do have a right to use the road, just as you do.

 

[fuji]

If BLM exercise their right to the road as you suggest and block it, then I no longer have the 'right' to travel on it, thus robbing me of my right.

Right back at ya:

"If you exercise your right to use the road as you suggest then they no longer have the 'right' to protest on it, thus robbing them of their right.

How is that fair?"

When two people with rights to the same public space want to use it for conflicting purposes the police and courts will seek a solution that accommodates both.

For example, you could take a different route, and on the side of the protest, they can limit the duration of their protest, and allow emergency vehicles through.

It seems fair to me. If it doesn't seem fair to you, I suggest you have some entitled idea that you own the road and that your use should be prioritized over other people's.

 

[Glock19]

I am tired of all of this black lives matter BS. ALL lives matter. Period! There are many other races that discriminated, but yet they don't always pull out the race card. It is important to highlight that media also play big role in blowing up things. Black people kill black people (gang violence) more and yet the media only highlights police kill black people.

ALL LIVES MATTER! I don't have sympathy to groups that disrupt other people lives to play their race card only for their own group or kind benefit.

 

[cuttysark]

Right back at ya:

"If you exercise your right to use the road as you suggest then they no longer have the 'right' to protest on it, thus robbing them of their right.

How is that fair?"

When two people with rights to the same public space want to use it for conflicting purposes the police and courts will seek a solution that accommodates both.

For example, you could take a different route, and on the side of the protest, they can limit the duration of their protest, and allow emergency vehicles through.

It seems fair to me. If it doesn't seem fair to you, I suggest you have some entitled idea that you own the road and that your use should be prioritized over other people's.

You really are an obtuse little man