Black People In Toronto Are Nearly Four Times More Likely To Be Arrested By City Cops For Drug Possession When Compared To Other Races

[basketcase]

Another fake liar. Nowhere in this thread have I stated that it is my belief that black people use more drugs(lets assume illegal drugs) and I have no idea if they do. I suspect that many of the arrests are for trafficking illegal drugs, a very different thing than 'using' them. Folks, this is how the fakes work. They are liars. Ignore their B.S.

Anyways, any comments about the top 25. Racism, perhaps.

Yet you've rejected reality and instead wanted to change topics.

In case you missed it, the thread is about black people being arrested far more often than others for drug use and you tried to argue that the data is fake and instead made up your own version of what was stated. Makes it pretty transparent what your argument is.

 

[K Douglas]

That info isn't public, but I would assume a lot of them are white.

You can't assume that at all.

 

[Czar]

Yet you've rejected reality and instead wanted to change topics.

In case you missed it, the thread is about black people being arrested far more often than others for drug use and you tried to argue that the data is fake and instead made up your own version of what was stated. Makes it pretty transparent what your argument is.

Once again, you lie(as expected). I never said the data was fake. I did say that you are a fake(which you are). Intentionally making assertions of things that I say that are not true. Typical when one's arguments are a failure.

You are right that the OP did not bring up the fact that blacks have a much higher proportion of members on the most wanted list in Canada as compared to their percentage of the population. Someone else brought that up.

I could try to put forward theories but why should I. The community will and say that I should listen to the community. They have a point. Here are two voices of the community. A talk show host listening to a video by a well-known black scholar named Thomas Sowell.

 

[basketcase]

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You are right that the OP did not bring up the fact that blacks have a much higher proportion of members on the most wanted list in Canada...

Which has what to do with the topic of the OP? It was only brought up because people want to cast black people as more criminal and therefore the higher arrest rate is somehow justified. Simply all of the distractions from that article are bullshit excuses for a clear racial bias.

Actual data on drug use vs. arrests shows that black people in Toronto are charged at 5 times the rate of white people despite usage rates being similar.

 

[Czar]

Which has what to do with the topic of the OP? It was only brought up because people want to cast black people as more criminal and therefore the higher arrest rate is somehow justified. Simply all of the distractions from that article are bullshit excuses for a clear racial bias.

Actual data on drug use vs. arrests shows that black people in Toronto are charged at 5 times the rate of white people despite usage rates being similar.

Alright, to prevent unnecessary back and forth, I will accept your premise that blacks are arrested five times more than whites based on same drug use and that it is all due to racism. I will let others decide for themselves if they really believe that.

I thank you for enlightening me that obviously racism must be the reason for so many drug arrests in that proportion. Is it the same reason for the similar ratio of killers on the most wanted in Canada list.

I know, I know. Its not important. Different subject.

 

[basketcase]

Alright, to prevent unnecessary back and forth, I will accept your premise that blacks are arrested five times more than whites based on same drug use and that it is all due to racism. I will let others decide for themselves if they really believe that.

I thank you for enlightening me that obviously racism must be the reason for so many drug arrests in that proportion. Is it the same reason for the similar ratio of killers on the most wanted in Canada list.

I know, I know. Its not important. Different subject.

And sarcasm, the last refuge.

If you accept the studies that drug use is not higher in black people yet Toronto arrests are 5 times higher, do you have an alternate explanation or is it simply you don't think that racial bias exists in some police?

 

[The Fox]

Who gives a fuck. Own yourself, not your label. It’s easy.

 

[Czar]

And sarcasm, the last refuge.

If you accept the studies that drug use is not higher in black people yet Toronto arrests are 5 times higher, do you have an alternate explanation or is it simply you don't think that racial bias exists in some police?

Don't understand your answer. Once again, is it racism that explains the make-up 25 most wanted(mostly murderers). Clear yes or no would be appreciated. I have learned so much from you so far.

 

[basketcase]

Don't understand your answer. Once again, is it racism that explains the make-up 25 most wanted(mostly murderers). Clear yes or no would be appreciated. I have learned so much from you so far.

I'll answer your question but I'm sure you'll continue to ignore the one I posed.

Gang activity has always been tied to poverty and more recent immigrant groups. Right now, the poor, more recent immigrant groups are people of colour. I'm pretty sure my Irish grandfather was involved in organized crime to some extent. Italians, Russians, Vietnamese, and many other groups have also been heavily involved in gang violence in the past few decades. Then there are the Bike gangs.

My question:

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If you accept the studies that drug use is not higher in black people yet Toronto arrests are 5 times higher, do you have an alternate explanation or is it simply you don't think that racial bias exists in some police?

Or I can be more direct and ask you if you think that having darker skin is the cause of criminality.

 

[Czar]

I'll answer your question but I'm sure you'll continue to ignore the one I posed.

Gang activity has always been tied to poverty and more recent immigrant groups. Right now, the poor, more recent immigrant groups are people of colour. I'm pretty sure my Irish grandfather was involved in organized crime to some extent. Italians, Russians, Vietnamese, and many other groups have also been heavily involved in gang violence in the past few decades. Then there are the Bike gangs.

Thanks for the info,

I will have to check the top 25 list to see if there are many Vietnamese, Russian, or Italian sounding names on there. Or you could do it for me, adding them up and see how they compare. Perhaps I'll look for the biker look as well.

It would help if you list all the 'many other groups' that have been heavily involved in gang violence over the last few decades. I am learning so much here.

 

[Czar]

Thanks for the info,

I will have to check the top 25 list to see if there are many Vietnamese, Russian, or Italian sounding names on there. Or you could do it for me, adding them up and see how they compare. Perhaps I'll look for the biker look as well.

It would help if you list all the 'many other groups' that have been heavily involved in gang violence over the last few decades. I am learning so much here.

One of the white persons on the top 25 most wanted in Canada was found. Died in a plane crash the other day in northern Ontario. According to the article, his crime wasn't committed in Canada. Apparently killed a gangster. I don't have time for people associated with gangs as they may be doing other bad stuff, but in this instance, this guy did do us a favour.

B.C. fugitive accused in Thailand murder dies in plane crash with Kamloops gangster

A B.C. fugitive charged with killing a United Nations gangster in Thailand has died in a fiery plane in northwestern Ontario.

vancouversun.com

 

[Czar]

As for random crime in the GTA, some good news today. A string of violent carjackings has been resolved with arrests. The victims could have been an one of us. Some video of the actual crimes in this link.

Toronto men charged in connection to violent GTA carjackings | Watch (msn.com)

 

[Darts]

As for random crime in the GTA, some good news today. A string of violent carjackings has been resolved with arrests. The victims could have been an one of us. Some video of the actual crimes in this link.

Toronto men charged in connection to violent GTA carjackings | Watch (msn.com)

"He also said that the Project Tyga investigation is ongoing and they are looking for “some outstanding people.”"
Why did they name it "Tyga"?

 

[basketcase]

Thanks for the info,

I will have to check the top 25 list to see if there are many Vietnamese, Russian, or Italian sounding names on there. Or you could do it for me, adding them up and see how they compare. Perhaps I'll look for the biker look as well.

It would help if you list all the 'many other groups' that have been heavily involved in gang violence over the last few decades. I am learning so much here.

What a surprise. You demand other people answer your questions and when they are answered ignore them. Crime is clearly linked to poverty.

But of course you refuse to answer my question so I'll be blunt with it. Do you think there is something about non-white people that makes them more likely to be criminals?

 

[Darts]

Do you think there is something about non-white people that makes them more likely to be criminals?

Filipinos, Chinese, Koreans are probably the most docile people in the city/country. If they (rarely) commit a crime it is most likely non-violent. No, they are not all rich, far from it.

 

[Czar]

What a surprise. You demand other people answer your questions and when they are answered ignore them. Crime is clearly linked to poverty.

But of course you refuse to answer my question so I'll be blunt with it. Do you think there is something about non-white people that makes them more likely to be criminals?

Ok, I will answer your question. I would say that white people are more likely to commit crimes than some groups of non-white people, many of whom have entered this country in poverty. it is something that should be acknowledge and have open discussion of why this is so. Don't you agree with that as an overall principle?

Now you can answer mine. Could you please elaborate further on the information you provided list all the 'many other groups' that have been heavily involved in gang violence over the last few decades.

 

[johnyboy]

Thiis iis not about drug use....who gets charged for drug use?? Its drug dealing and crimes realated to that illegal activity. Its a bullshit argument. The problem is violent gang crimes. Wake up ffs!!

 

[black booty lover]

Alright, to prevent unnecessary back and forth, I will accept your premise that blacks are arrested five times more than whites based on same drug use and that it is all due to racism. I will let others decide for themselves if they really believe that.

I thank you for enlightening me that obviously racism must be the reason for so many drug arrests in that proportion. Is it the same reason for the similar ratio of killers on the most wanted in Canada list.

I know, I know. Its not important. Different subject.

No matter what you say, he will come back at you with black propaganda BS and play the white privilege card. He will find a way to tell you the police are racist..yada...yada...yada..

He will even go as far as making up stories about how when he was younger and broke the law, he got off easy while his black friends got the book thrown at them.

His handle totally suites him. Basketcase.

 

[princekwekua]

Thiis iis not about drug use....who gets charged for drug use?? Its drug dealing and crimes realated to that illegal activity. Its a bullshit argument. The problem is violent gang crimes. Wake up ffs!!

Bad Blood on Netflix shows how cocaine is distributed in Quebec and Ontario. Columbian producers ship to the port of Montreal. The Italian Mafia are the wholesalers who take control from there and send to black retailers.
It takes extensive detective work to bust the wholesalers. And as a matter of fact, 20 people across the GTA were charged just yesterday with drug related offences. The investigation took 6 months and involved multiple police agencies. I doubt there are any blacks among those arrested.
On the other hand, it takes just an undercover cop posing as a customer to bust a black retailer. And just as in real business, there are many more retailers than wholesalers.
Of course, none of this registers with those asserting racism in drug related arrests.

 

[Darts]

He will even go as far as making up stories about how when he was younger and broke the law, he got off easy while his black friends got the book thrown at them.

That story is famous in the annals of TERB.
P.S. That story, even if true, is probably from 40, 50, 60, 100 years ago.

Another famous story is how he grew up in the hood and is still alive to-day, so what's the problem.