BJ has been admitted to hospital.
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BOJO is an alcoholic, you can easily tell by his facial skin. That is probably making things worse. Wading into a virus rich area is pretty stupid. My theory is, the initial viral load you experience has a lot to do with how your recuperation goes. Get hit with a high viral load initially and you are in DEEP trouble. Low viral load ..probably a mild cold.
UK right wing populists LOVE the monarchy. It's part of "British Exceptionalism" and that's about all Brit populism comes down to.
I'm curious about the woman masturbating in your signature. Do you think her breasts are natural? If not, she has one hell of a plastic surgeon.
You mean like his national health leadership was advising. Or like the Netherlands. Or Sweden until recently.
The Irony. When a populist movement is all about taxpayer's money, it goes to waste to a figurehead.
I think his NHS was essentially muzzled. He and Cummings (his behind the scenes "ideas guy") came up with this ludicrous idea that they would not shut anything down - including mass entertainment events like concerts and sports events - and let the virus run riot and kill a % of the population while the remainder developed "herd immunity".
That wasn't based on anything that the NHS advised. It was based on a controversial study by a research facility called Imperial University. The Tories relied 100% on this sole study and ignored all other advice.
Turned out that the study they were relying on underestimated the acute care requirements of the pandemic by 50% and also assumed the immunity stats with no research. As a result, BoJo backed down suddenly and horribly and did a 180 in a couple of days when the scandal of his own incompetence became national news.
By this time, the idiot was already infected with the virus from following his own moronic advice. Time will tell if the British public is screwed as well.
So you're wrong as usual.
I was reading the imperial college study and it seems pretty solid. But I re-read the nature article on it https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01003-6 and it does mention that their earlier version was completely wrong so maybe they looked at the older version. The authors had acknowledged the limitations but politicians don’t for the most part work on data but feelings and policies And that can get dangerous
He has a certain "puffy/petrifed" look I have seen on almost every alcoholic I have come across. Plus there are the well documented incidents.Really now?? And what exactly is wrong with his facial skin??
https://www.facebook.com/scientistsforeu/
I got a lot of info from this source, which admittedly is anti BoJo and anti Tory. If you scroll down into late March, there are videos discussing the government's use of the Imperial College study.
The earlier version relied on by BoJo and Cummings erred badly in that it based the rate of ICU usage on flu epidemics and didn't factor in that CV-19 ICU usage is far higher. Therefore, it did not predict that all available ICU beds / ventilators / other necessary equipment incl PPE would be used up early on in the CV-19 pandemic if no social controls were imposed. It also didn't factor in the attrition rate on NHS front line staff, incl demoralization, illness, death and burn out that an unchecked CV-19 pandemic would impose.
It also assumed that "herd immunity" would build up reliably. There is of course no bio-chemical evidence on that, as CV-19 is a novel virus.
It also assumed that the young were largely immune to the disease and that only the aged were at risk.
The most "WTF!!!!" aspect to BoJo's policy was the smug assumption that Brits would sacrifice granny and gramps in large numbers simply to keep the economy open. I come for the UK myself and Brits are pretty into extended families and taking care of their own. Had BoJo persevered with the policy, the political ramifications would have been enormous. OTOH, Tories have a large majority and 5 years to the next election; so Boris may not have given a fuck about down the road.
https://twitter.com/PeterKolchinsky/status/1246975275021348865
I've been reading this dude Peter Kolchinsky's comments.
As far as you know, is he reliable / reputable?
Thanks for the summary on the UK situation I have not really been up to date there.
Re this twitter page. At first I was gonna say no since the guy is self promoting and a virologist with no clinical expertise. and every physician I have seen who leaves the clinical realm and focuses on themselves usually becomes a self cantered ego maniac eh Dr Carson Oz Drew.
However after reading the guys page I think he is reliable as he cites primary reliable medical journals . One thing about medicine and science which is essential is it’s reliance on evidence based medicine. Everyone is taught the scientific method and while there are biases and shortcomings of this it does limit human bias and allows for data driven information. The cornerstone of evidence based medicine are peer-reviewed journals which this guy on Twitter is citing and hence why I think he is reliable because he is relaying the evidence and not relaying his thoughts on the evidence.
That’s why in medicine you can have two polar opposite from political cultural social backgrounds work together and reach the same conclusion , you can’t say the same About any other aspect of society . Now anyone can do this. I encourage you to check out JAMA or New England Journal of Medicine or Nature Ans you can read things from the source vs something’s that’s been passed through several Chanels each with their own lense on things.
There is still a role for opinions. There are experts who can interpret the evidence and contextualize it. The latter is key , each new information on its own may seem like the next big cure or vice versa but someone who has gone to medical school and knows the available literature knows the value of things on the big picture.
I highly trust Dr Fauci and would honestly blindly follow his advice. He was a well known name within science and medicine. I have used his chapter on Infectious Diseases in Harrison’s as my knowledge source for ID.
I read somewhere that if you're put on a ventilator your chances of walking out of that hospital are less than 30%
