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Bill C-36 tabled (New Prostitution Law)

Shades

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So this bill hasnt gone through yet. If some John gets busted by the cops tomorrow, can he be charged under this current pending law?? How does that work??
No, it isn't a law and cops will probably not try to enforce it until it is a law.......what would be the point? The existing laws stay in place until replaced with this....IMHO

Party on dudes :)
 

AK-47

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Prostitution is illegal in the states (except in Nevada) yet there are escorts still operating
Oh yeah, it will never go away completely.

Question is, are you willing to risk a criminal record to get your rocks off
 

Aardvark154

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Don Detcher, a Tory MP, just said on Power and Politics with Evan Solomon (CBC News) that the advertisement provisions are intended to target exploitative situations (for example, coercive pimping)
So he thinks, however, that isn't going to prevent police from charging, Crown Attorney's Offices from prosecuting or juries from convicting based upon how the law reads rather than what Don Detcher feels it means.
 

massman

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So he thinks, however, that isn't going to prevent police from charging, Crown Attorney's Offices from prosecuting or juries from convicting based upon how the law reads rather than what Don Detcher feels it means.
And don't forget, the underlying philosophy of the law is that buying sex is by definition- exploitation
 

lovelatinas

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Oh yeah, it will never go away completely.

Question is, are you willing to risk a criminal record to get your rocks off
Been doing incalls for 6 years which is illegal and still haven't been charged. I think this bill is the conservatives way to get more female and moralists voters for the next election. Question is do you really think there will be nation wide police stings going on everyday to catch Johns. I don't think so. Besides, texting and driving is illegal but people do it everyday, shoplifting is illegal yet people do it everyday, the difference is that there is no LE and people get away with it.
 

Mencken

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I think this is, pure and simple, the PCs trying to impose a fundamentalist Christian view of sexuality on the country. It clearly does not address the safety of sex workers, and clearly does not respect the current laws under which sex work is legal....only certain activities associated with it are not. It may force the street trade further under cover, it will make a lot of the current escorting practices illegal, and it can essentially give the power to arrest a sex worker or a customer any time anywhere....because someone under 18 could reasonably be present almost anywhere.

It is clear that the intent is to prevent any sort of sex for money. Dechert made it clear that the intent or the hope would be to bring a total end to the disgusting practice of prostitution.

These people just thought they could do an end run around the intent of the court.....just make it illegal, which they effectively are doing....and then there will be no debate around safety.
 

lovelatinas

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Most of the emphasis is on selling and purchasing sexual services in public places where children could be present. I believe that is where LE will be mostly targeting.
 

lovelatinas

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So how many sex workers are willing to make minimum wage at McDonalds? I guess that's the way out of prostitution and into corporate slavery, so a CEO can make millions of $$$. It's another form of exploitation.
 

AK-47

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Canada just became Saudi Arabia
 

Ace88

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So, where are all the optimists who thought we we're over-reacting with our doom and gloom predictions, saying that the sky is falling? Well, the sky just fell.

Lovelatinas--great point. All these lovely women, currently making more than lawyers/hour, are now "liberated" from their "victimhood" by the white knights Mackay and Harper, and now have the pleasure of applying to corporate slavery jobs paying minimum wage, with a resume that is basically empty of "job experience". God I hate these people.
 

d_jedi

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We all need to complain loudly and forcefully.
Personally, I've already sent off an e-mail to Peter MacKay. For those who may wish to adapt for their own use, here's what I sent:
To the Honourable Mr. Peter Gordon MacKay
Minister of Justice and Attorney General

Mr. MacKay:
I will keep this short.
I have purchased sexual services from prostitutes. I have voted for the federal Conservative party. With the introduction of Bill C-36, I will no longer be doing one of those things.

It is a fundamental assault on the freedoms that Canadians have fought and died to protect to criminalize sexual acts between consenting adults. That is what Bill C-36 essentially does, and like my forefathers who fought to protect this country from tyranny abroad, I will fight tooth and nail to stop you from doing this. If you choose to proceed, I warn that no quarter will be given.

The government has no place in the bedrooms of the nation.
 

Allegra Escorts

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Come on guys, don't get your panties in a bunch over this. Harper's majority isn't the end of the conversation, there are still judges in Canada who know how to read the constitution, even if the Conservative Party doesn't. The law won't pass third reading in its current state, and whatever scraps make it through the committee process will promptly be struck down by the courts. It won't take five years, it won't require an injunction from Bedford, it won't even require a constitutional challenge. The first judge who looks at it will strike it down, and the appeal courts will quickly agree.

As for advertising, the newspapers are already preparing challenges under the consitutional right to free speech. As long as sex work remains legal - which is does - there's no legitimate way to criminalize the advertising of sexual services. The government is just pandering to their evangelical base, they know full well that this legislation has no chance of staying on the books - they're just doing it to say they did it, so they can look tough and moral in the eyes of their supporters. Some of the lawyers who worked on the Bedford case have already come out and stated that the new legislation violates the Charter the same way the old laws did:

http://www.pivotlegal.org/the_new_sex_work_legislation_explained

The sky isn't falling, guys - tomorrow, it'll still be business as usual.
 
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