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Butler1000

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(All of which you would have opposed at the time as half-loaf sellout legislation that was too compromised by the right wing and not bold and progressive enough.)

But hey, what did he have that Biden doesn't when he did those things?
Large majorities in both chambers.

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Funny. It is almost like having more seats makes you more likely to accomplish something big.
Funny how keeping promises gets you more seats. And promising to help people as well.
 
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As they already failed on Build Back Better, A public Option for Healthcare, a 15 dollar minimum wage, why should progressive voters believe they can stop things from happening? If the SCOTUS drops more bombs, what can they do to stop it?

Im sure they will be really good at shaking their fists and asking for donations. So far thats all they seem capable of.
You have to thank Moscow Mitch for blocking everything under the sun even though the voters gave Biden the go ahead!!
 

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You have to thank Moscow Mitch for blocking everything under the sun even though the voters gave Biden the go ahead!!
Actually it was Manchin and Sinema on BBB. Remember when it was tied to the infrastructure bill? But Manchin said it was basically extortion to combine them? Meaning the corporate donors wanted it but not BBB? Then the Dems got in enough shit from the donors that they decoupled them.

Infrastructure passed and BBB, despite being reduced from 6 Trillion to 1.75 Trillion, over ten years, failed. Their own killed it.

And Joe Biden abandoned the other two upon entering office. No vote was ever even considered in Congress. Can't blame Mitch when they don't try.
 

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Actually it was Manchin and Sinema on BBB. Remember when it was tied to the infrastructure bill? But Manchin said it was basically extortion to combine them? Meaning the corporate donors wanted it but not BBB? Then the Dems got in enough shit from the donors that they decoupled them.

Infrastructure passed and BBB, despite being reduced from 6 Trillion to 1.75 Trillion, over ten years, failed. Their own killed it.

And Joe Biden abandoned the other two upon entering office. No vote was ever even considered in Congress. Can't blame Mitch when they don't try.
Again you blame the whole of the Democrats for two rogue Senators that have consistently thrown roadblocks in the Biden Legislations.
What were your views of Romney, Romney and Murkowski when they derailed Trump's attempts to repeal the ACA?
At least some of Biden's Bills have managed to pass through the Senate. But that is why The Democrats need more Senators to counter these two rogue ones and no doubt Biden can get a lot more of his promises through the Senate. Mitch desperately tried to do everything in his path to derail the ACA during the Obama era. He and the Republicans are the corrupt ones who receive the most donations from billionaires and large Corporations!!
 
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Again you blame the whole of the Democrats for two rogue Senators that have consistently thrown roadblocks in the Biden Legislations.
What were your views of Romney, Romney and Murkowski when they derailed Trump's attempts to repeal the ACA?
At least some of Biden's Bills have managed to pass through the Senate. But that is why The Democrats need more Senators to counter these two rogue ones and no doubt Biden can get a lot more of his promises through the Senate. Mitch desperately tried to do everything in his path to derail the ACA during the Obama era. He and the Republicans are the corrupt ones who receive the most donations from billionaires and large Corporations!!
And then Chris Cooms will block things. And Tim Kaine. Lots more corporate owned right wing Dems waiting.

They had 60 seats and didn't do it. Why should anyone believe them?

Manchin, a coal company owner, is the Chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources committee. So the Democrats continue to REWARD him. That says it all.
 

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If Biden wants women to vote for Democrats, he had better come out with a Female Orgasm Month instead.....
 

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And then Chris Cooms will block things. And Tim Kaine. Lots more corporate owned right wing Dems waiting.

They had 60 seats and didn't do it. Why should anyone believe them?

Manchin, a coal company owner, is the Chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources committee. So the Democrats continue to REWARD him. That says it all.
Once again you can demand answers to your questions but not answer a single one!!
The Democrats got the ACA going as promised, and all the Republicans wanted to do was to scrap it. The Americans have to thank the likes of McCain for bravely leaving his hospital bedside to prevent that Bill from being wiped out and not replaced. After all the Corporate Greed and big Pharma Companies wanted it repealed. One or two rogue Democratic Senators and the whole Democratic Party is then lumped with them. But it is then hunky dory when the likes of Collins, Murkowski, Romney and McCain voted against the likes of the Republican extremist legislations and against the actual Big Corporations wants!!
 

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Once again you can demand answers to your questions but not answer a single one!!
The Democrats got the ACA going as promised, and all the Republicans wanted to do was to scrap it. The Americans have to thank the likes of McCain for bravely leaving his hospital bedside to prevent that Bill from being wiped out and not replaced. After all the Corporate Greed and big Pharma Companies wanted it repealed. One or two rogue Democratic Senators and the whole Democratic Party is then lumped with them. But it is then hunky dory when the likes of Collins, Murkowski, Romney and McCain voted against the likes of the Republican extremist legislations and against the actual Big Corporations wants!!
The ACA.....where the average Family of 4 pays $16,000 for coverage because the insurance companies can just hike rates as they please and demand the govt add more subsudies.

So Biden promised a Public option. Where is it?
 

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The ACA.....where the average Family of 4 pays $16,000 for coverage because the insurance companies can just hike rates as they please and demand the govt add more subsudies.

So Biden promised a Public option. Where is it?
The average costs are less than $13,000 for a family. However, it has been rising every year. Medicaid expansion is available in all Democratic States, but opposed by certain Republican States in spite of Supreme Court ruling in favour of it. At least the Democrats have the people's Healthcare in their mind, whereas the Republicans have want ACA repealed and Medicaid Expansion eliminated. Blame them for just once!!
 

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The average costs are less than $13,000 for a family. However, it has been rising every year. Medicaid expansion is available in all Democratic States, but opposed by certain Republican States in spite of Supreme Court ruling in favour of it. At least the Democrats have the people's Healthcare in their mind, whereas the Republicans have want ACA repealed and Medicaid Expansion eliminated. Blame them for just once!!
Sure. GoP sucks. There ya go.

So does the ACA.
 

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Sure. GoP sucks. There ya go.

So does the ACA.
So you agree that they are the bigger culprits in the manner in which they have opposed Healthcare for all, and affordable medications.
By the way Fox News are now pissed off with Manchin:

Lawmakers react after Manchin, Schumer agree to reconciliation deal: 'Build Back Broke'
Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn tweeted 'Build Back Broke' in response to the deal struck by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Joe Manchin


This includes lower prescription costs as well. It has not gone down with the Republicans like McConnell!!
 
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So you agree that they are the bigger culprits in the manner in which they have opposed Healthcare for all, and affordable medications.
By the way Fox News are now pissed off with Manchin:

Lawmakers react after Manchin, Schumer agree to reconciliation deal: 'Build Back Broke'
Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn tweeted 'Build Back Broke' in response to the deal struck by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Joe Manchin


This includes lower prescription costs as well. It has not gone down with the Republicans like McConnell!!
Which is about 1/20 of what Biden Promised. But hey if you are willing to settle for that I imagine you will settle for a boob flash when a provider promises GFE...... I will give credit if they manage to pass prescription drug negotiations. But really its the only thing of real value there.
 

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Which is about 1/20 of what Biden Promised. But hey if you are willing to settle for that I imagine you will settle for a boob flash when a provider promises GFE...... I will give credit if they manage to pass prescription drug negotiations. But really its the only thing of real value there.
Ah, back to the chart.
If Biden does something its never enough.

Butler is nothing if not predictable.
 

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Which is about 1/20 of what Biden Promised. But hey if you are willing to settle for that I imagine you will settle for a boob flash when a provider promises GFE...... I will give credit if they manage to pass prescription drug negotiations. But really its the only thing of real value there.
Miles and miles better than anything that the Republicans have signed into law under Trump.
If that is a "boob flash" then I will take it any day over Trump pulling down his pants to show his ass and just his ass kissers being attracted to it!!
No wonder that Fox News with the likes of Hannity and Tucker Carlson are now cursing and swearing at Manchin as they consider it as "too much spending" of the tax payers money!!
 

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Miles and miles better than anything that the Republicans have signed into law under Trump.
If that is a "boob flash" then I will take it any day over Trump pulling down his pants to show his ass and just his ass kissers being attracted to it!!
No wonder that Fox News with the likes of Hannity and Tucker Carlson are now cursing and swearing at Manchin as they consider it as "too much spending" of the tax payers money!!
A Val said, nothing is close to being done. First there will be Reconciliation and the Senate Parliamentarian. Then Vote-a-Rama, then more shit. Then the House.

So no, there is no credit that to be given really.
 

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Miles and miles better than anything that the Republicans have signed into law under Trump.
If that is a "boob flash" then I will take it any day over Trump pulling down his pants to show his ass and just his ass kissers being attracted to it!!
No wonder that Fox News with the likes of Hannity and Tucker Carlson are now cursing and swearing at Manchin as they consider it as "too much spending" of the tax payers money!!
Not only that but Biden pulled the rug out from under Moscow Mitch.
Mitch was refusing to sign the Chips bill as long as this bill was a possibility, but then they managed to convince the GOP the green bill was dead and the GOP let the Chips bill through.
Next day comes this announcement.

Well played.
 
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