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Butler1000

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Think of why Warren has moved up in the polls. She clearly did her homework and came up with the most descriptive and concise platform. That is what the voters will be scrutinizing. You are just mirroring Trump's constant rants about the media and big Corporations. The media do breakdown and parse all the debates from each of the candidates. It is transparent for all to see!!
Except for Medicare. She has a "framework". And refuses to discuss how she will pay for it.

It's not the most important policy point........

And the pundits are in a bubble. I saw some claim Klobuchar won the debate. Others Biden.

I saw Biden wiff on his son, try to claim Warren's work as his own. And get owned by Sanders on his record.

Klobuchar got some time, and said not one positive thing.

And a good portion of her platform you can thank Sanders for. Cripes she used to be a Republican and was against Single Payer until she decided to run for President.

And takes money from big donors. One month before she announced she attended a ten thousand a head cocktail dinner, with 50 grand a pop for a picture with her. Then transfered it to her Senate account before quietly transfering again to her presidential account (a total of 10 million) while claiming she wasn't taking big donor money.

She is a fraud.
 

Butler1000

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Whatever.
After 3 years of defending Trump these attacks are just you pissing into the wind.

You planted your moral turf deep in Trump's shit.
I notice you didn't refute. Just deflect.

Her sucking up to Clinton, both in 2016 looking for the VP slot and now to try for her Hamptons donor crowd says even more. She is a faux progressive who's "plans" will get watered down, or forgotten once in office.
 

WyattEarp

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And a good portion of her platform you can thank Sanders for.
That's an interesting point. I just don't see politicians 100% owning a platform. These ideas have been around for several years. Don't be dismissive of someone who can sell the message better than Bernie.

Even Trump's key policy differentiators trade and immigration have their roots in Pat Buchanan's and Ross Perot's campaigns of the 1990s.
 

mellowjello

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Why doesn't Hunter chip in?
Maybe he should, he can ask Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric how well that would work seeing that
they're the template for nepotism and conflict of interest.
Especially since Donald has 'divested' himself from his business operations and handed full control to them.
 

mellowjello

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The pundits are paid well by the corporations to tell you what to think.

Go back and actually look at the debate .
Agree.
The discrepancy between the coverage Sanders gets and the actual groundswell support he has is huge.
They have to find some way of stopping him because I believe he's the popular choice.
 

Frankfooter

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Agree.
The discrepancy between the coverage Sanders gets and the actual groundswell support he has is huge.
They have to find some way of stopping him because I believe he's the popular choice.
This was an entertaining read:

BERNIE’S POLICIES ARE GOOD, BUT HOW CAN HE APPEAL TO THE ABSOLUTE WORST PEOPLE EVER?
by CAMDEN PAILLOT



Since his bid for the Democratic Presidential Primary in 2015, Senator Bernie Sanders has found considerable popularity across the political spectrum, earning him the title of the most popular politician in the United States. I’ll admit, his policies represent a pinprick of light in the vast darkness of a crumbling American Empire, but how can he hope to appeal to decrepit weirdos and sociopathic cretins whose souls, upon death, will walk as a shadow-like mist, haunting the halls of orphanages?

In the age of Trump, the Democratic Party must maintain unity around a central goal: defeating Donald Trump. This means sacrificing all beliefs and commitments to anything other than being the enemy of the orange man. Thus, Democrats must uphold the sacred pseudo-science of electability over all else.


Okay, I’ll concede that Sanders’ policies are good. They’re really good. The majority of Americans agree that getting an education and not dying from preventable diseases are generally positive policy goals, but what about the Americans that don’t? How will a candidate like this earn the vote of completely hateable assholes, who want what’s worst for everyone? How can Sanders hope to tap into the aggressive, bizarrely psychosexual impulses of depraved weirdos whose prefrontal cortexes have been cooked at high temperatures while trying to negotiate the complex emotion of empathy?

You see, Democrats must be able to maintain a centrist character and appeal to creepy freaks who would sooner microwave a hamster than vote to improve our crumbling social programs. Look ,  are these people a small minority, who we could easily and inconsequentially ignore, instead of focusing on millions of disenfranchised, dispassionate voters? Sure, but this is the Democratic Party for chrissakes!

Indeed, one may “like” Sanders’ populist, pro-working-class ideology that has enticed  —  let me be clear  —  millions of struggling Americans, but being dragged too far left means losing the vote of cartoonish top-hat-wearing-villains, phrenology-practicing conservative centrists, and Democrat-leaning billionaires residing on secret sex-predator-islands, whose only apparent mission is to make the biosphere collapse faster.

These are votes we simply cannot afford to lose in a critical era like this.


Rerun Era is a captivating, propulsive memoir about growing up in the environmentally and economically devastated rural flatlands of Oklahoma, the entwinement of personal memory and the memory of...
This is why the only viable candidate is Joe Biden, who is currently in the ER after his left eyeball popped out and rolled across the stage and into the gaping, waiting mouth of the Abrahamic demon Moloch, who has been following him around since 1652.

You may now see why we must abandon all deeply held political convictions and instead focus on appealing to a minority of cruel, homunculus-like specters who emerge from bubbling peat-bogs, openly cheering on the suffering of man.
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles...n-he-appeal-to-the-absolute-worst-people-ever
 

Butler1000

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No, I'm ignoring what you say as its just more trolling from you.
For a guy trying to ignore me you sure spend alot of time responding to my posts......
 

Butler1000

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That's an interesting point. I just don't see politicians 100% owning a platform. These ideas have been around for several years. Don't be dismissive of someone who can sell the message better than Bernie.

Even Trump's key policy differentiators trade and immigration have their roots in Pat Buchanan's and Ross Perot's campaigns of the 1990s.
I'd say, however he has 40+ years in politics of being consistent in believing in these policies that gives him a credibility he will fight for them.

Warren doesn't. And judging from the debate she doesn't have the language, passion and charisma to sell them.

I will add this, four years ago M4A, college tuition, minimum wage hikes, tax hikes, shutting down the war machine were all "crazy" ideas. Now they are the legitimate platform of two of the frontrunners (well one for sure, the other is waffling).

And the huge grassroots fundraising of both show they are not fringe ideas to the populace.
 

WyattEarp

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The Sanders platform is fairly basic. It's encapsulated in this famous Seinfeld scene.

More Anything? More Everything!!!

 

bver_hunter

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Except for Medicare. She has a "framework". And refuses to discuss how she will pay for it.

It's not the most important policy point........

And the pundits are in a bubble. I saw some claim Klobuchar won the debate. Others Biden.

I saw Biden wiff on his son, try to claim Warren's work as his own. And get owned by Sanders on his record.

Klobuchar got some time, and said not one positive thing.

And a good portion of her platform you can thank Sanders for. Cripes she used to be a Republican and was against Single Payer until she decided to run for President.

And takes money from big donors. One month before she announced she attended a ten thousand a head cocktail dinner, with 50 grand a pop for a picture with her. Then transfered it to her Senate account before quietly transfering again to her presidential account (a total of 10 million) while claiming she wasn't taking big donor money.

She is a fraud.
Can you provide a link about her "fraudulent" claims where she was pocketing the big donor money. Obviously, the usual online right wingers are constantly coming up with conspiracy theories that you buy.

These are four lessons from Warren that Sanders could be follow in order to help his cause:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francesbridges/2019/09/30/elizabeth-warren/#6260a66f3de8
 

Butler1000

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Can you provide a link about her "fraudulent" claims where she was pocketing the big donor money. Obviously, the usual online right wingers are constantly coming up with conspiracy theories that you buy.

These are four lessons from Warren that Sanders could be follow in order to help his cause:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francesbridges/2019/09/30/elizabeth-warren/#6260a66f3de8
Go look up her donor list for her Senate campaign.

It's all right there. Where else do you think she got the 10 million she transfered from it to her presidential campaign?
 

Butler1000

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The Sanders platform is fairly basic. It's encapsulated in this famous Seinfeld scene.

More Anything? More Everything!!!

Compared to......

A few get it all, the rest can go fuck themselves.

Guess who can win that debate election day.

The internet is finally the great leveler.
 

bver_hunter

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Go look up her donor list for her Senate campaign.

It's all right there. Where else do you think she got the 10 million she transfered from it to her presidential campaign?
Looked for it and could not find it. But you are the one with the proof, so when are you going to elaborate about how and when she "pocketed" her campaign funds??
 

WyattEarp

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Compared to......

A few get it all, the rest can go fuck themselves.

Guess who can win that debate election day.

The internet is finally the great leveler.
Communism is the great leveler. It levels everything in its path.
 

Butler1000

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Communism is the great leveler. It levels everything in its path.
Lol.

That old trope?

Because if you are serious, I'd say the fact that Canada, England, France, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, most of Europe, with their public healthcare, tuition assistance, labour laws, taxation system, seem to be quite Democratic, have happier populations, and are living longer than USA citizens.

And the corporate press is losing the war to keep the population ignorant of what is possible.
 

Butler1000

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Looked for it and could not find it. But you are the one with the proof, so when are you going to elaborate about how and when she "pocketed" her campaign funds??
Let me get a name for you. I will have time later tonight.
 
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