The problem is trying to do business with them is difficult. The govt is so entwined with business there. They will steal proprietary knowledge, undercut deals, and let's not forget the two Michael's.
There are better markets to explore first.
Bad China/Good US, Canada needs to stop following US and starts to diversify its trade
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There are better markets to explore first.
BRI investments are actually going down. The reality is that they are poor quality, unsustainable infrastructure projects at high interest rates that leave countries debt ridden and beholden to the CCP. The CCP has broken basically every "deal" it has ever made
I don't need to go to China, or North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran, or some other places to know that doing business with them is a shity proposition. Not with other willing markets out there.
Well, then you need to basically sell everything you have in your house , they are either made in China or made by Chinese companies setting up factories in south East Asian lmao
In what way is the US throwing out a student for participating in the Palestine protests any different from government censorship in China?
We are not as free as we think we are, and they are not as authoritarian as we believe them to be.
China may not have our values but to do business they are good.
Have you considered your Chinese Friends are no better than Americans for being biased? I have Asian friends with the opposing view.
In the end I see a ruthless Central Govt that locked up two of our citizens for no good reason. For years. And have placed "police stations" here to intimidate residents in Canada. As well as other operatives to influence elections and stifle protests. They get no break from me.
Its not really difficult.
We do business with them already.
So what if the government is entwined?
The entire world does business with China.
So we can too.
Sure, there is a lot of dishonesty in media. Just a decade ago the media spin about China was it was the next big thing. Everyone put your money in China and get a piece of the 1.4B market. They blissfully ignored the atrocities, environmental and human rights violations cause everyone wanted a piece. Now that the CCP has shown its true colours, many are thankfully waking up and seeing them as an adversary.
For what its worth, with all the faults of our media i would take that anyday over the CCP propaganda that they spew to us in school, in the state owned newspapers, within their social media.
Lol. Bad argument. I didn't say cut off trade, I said monitor it. As an example when the tried to buy op all our potash Harper killed it. We can set up some energy exports, some food exports, so long as they pay upfront. And so long as we inspect products from China for lead and other illegal process it's fine.
But I wouldn't allow them near our water rights, food supply chain, telecommunications infrastructure, energy futures, military contracts, and other essential businesses. They can send us cheap consumer goods and widgets.
They are probably headed for a demographic problem if not a degree of collapse in the next decade or two anyway.
No, fuck communism lol I never said it was or is any good.
All I’m saying is that current US leadership right now actively attacks checks and balances such as courts and judges which moves it towards authoritarianism
Do you know how many ppl get locked up in the states for no good reasons, they are running like a business down here. US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world
Of course we can do business. See above. It's what we let them into and how that matters.
This is true. The demographic dividend China experienced may actually be their demise
And I've stopped traveling to the USA now, pretty much boycotting their products as much as possible. What's your point?
I'd say lesson learned. Set up a diversity of trade deals with the world, protect our natural resources from foreign exploitation, use our safe nation status and reputation to cut deals that work.
And from now on trust but verify.
There is a CANZUK proposal, which is a Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the UK union. I like the idea.
This is pretty hypocritical I find
People get fired and jailed for protesting Israel. POC getting detained by ICE, how is this a democracy
China locks up the highest percentage of one demographic into "reeducation camps" simply due to race and ethnicity.
Canada should follow it's own interest. But be wary of China.
They are not trustworthy and leadership doesn't change every 4 years.
They are not trustworthy and leadership doesn't change every 4 years.
