AWD vs Snow tires! MUST SEE!
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I think some people are adverse to the idea of a 2nd set of tires especially in city areas because they have the mentality that they hardly drive on snow. One thing to note though, is that the tires available now are actually WINTER tires, not SNOW tires.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...r-tires-differ-from-snow-tires/article558791/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...r-tires-differ-from-snow-tires/article558791/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44sT6Ew12Us
Good video comparing All Season, All weather winter rated and dedicated winter tires.
Good video comparing All Season, All weather winter rated and dedicated winter tires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iP8SS9vQaU
What you need to know about winter tires.
Many people think that snow tires are an expense. However, in reality you're not paying extra, since while you are using the winter tires, you are not using the summer tires, so you save on wear. In fact, owning winter tires should save you money over the long run, since you are less likely to be in an accident (which saves money in itself). In addition, some insurance companies offer discounts if you have winter tires. Call your insurance company to see if you can get a discount. That discount may pay for the tires over a long time.
There is no disadvantage of using winter tires in the winter except the time to put them on, and perhaps a storage fee if you don't own a house to store them.
What you need to know about winter tires.
Many people think that snow tires are an expense. However, in reality you're not paying extra, since while you are using the winter tires, you are not using the summer tires, so you save on wear. In fact, owning winter tires should save you money over the long run, since you are less likely to be in an accident (which saves money in itself). In addition, some insurance companies offer discounts if you have winter tires. Call your insurance company to see if you can get a discount. That discount may pay for the tires over a long time.
There is no disadvantage of using winter tires in the winter except the time to put them on, and perhaps a storage fee if you don't own a house to store them.
Please visit the link below if you want free winter tires (by insurance discount)
You will save 3 to 5 percent on your insurance, and have free winter tires.
https://www.thestar.com/business/personal_finance/2015/10/26/let-it-snow-winter-tire-insurance-offers-just-a-modest-break-mayers.html
80% of readers said they already have winter tires, and 10% are considering it. Only 10% are not interested.
The life you save can be your own or a loved one. Or maybe you will save yourself from being in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. Is it worth it?
I remember my car skidding several meters even though I had applied full brakes at a stop sign. My car went on with ABS shuddering. If there were a car in front of me, I would have smashed it. However, I was able to make a right hand turn. Otherwise, I would have been in the middle of the intersection with oncoming traffic coming at me.
Looks like only 10% know how to drive, and avoid sliding through an intersection.
Please read this if you want free winter tires (by insurance discount).
You will save 3 to 5 percent on your insurance, and have free winter tires.
https://www.thestar.com/business/pe...urance-offers-just-a-modest-break-mayers.html
80% of readers said they already have winter tires, and 10% are considering it. Only 10% are not interested.
The life you save can be your own or a loved one. Or maybe you will save yourself from being in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. Is it worth it?
I remember my car skidding several meters even though I had applied full brakes at a stop sign. My car went on with ABS shuddering. If there were a car in front of me, I would have smashed it. However, I was able to make a right hand turn. Otherwise, I would have been in the middle of the intersection with oncoming traffic coming at me.
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While that is true most "all season" tires are only all season if you live in the South.In the video uploaded, there is no mention of "all season tires", instead they are using "summer" tires, which are much worst for winter conditions
That said there are some interesting tires coming out now like the Nokian WRG3 tires that claim to be true all season tires and do have the severe weather mountain designation.
I haven't tried them, I put Hakka's on in winter but then I drive out into real shit like forest service roads. I carry chains as well just in case I get stuck in really bad conditions.
C'mon fuji!I carry chains as well just in case I get stuck in really bad conditions.
Who are you trying to kid? We know what the chains are for!
Perry
Whatever you do, Don;t try to save money by just putting winter tires on two wheels. It is illegal in some countries, and makes the handling even worse. You are just wasting your money.
THAT explains why it looked unreal,...BIG difference between "summer only", and "all seasons".In the video uploaded, there is no mention of "all season tires", instead they are using "summer" tires, which are much worst for winter conditions
I have had both, and the experience the AWD car had in that video, mirrors mine in a 330ci with "summer only" tires, on the way to get snows.
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I trust my driving skills more than I do the skills of other drivers, but I still use winter tires. Why? Because even the most skilled driver may find himself in a situation where the difference between life or death, wholeness or injury, and getting off scot free or paying thousands of dollars, is simply the advantage conveyed by improved traction in winter weather. Whether or not you believe winter tires make a small or big difference, you admit that they do make a difference. I'd rather have that advantage.
And the idiots who think they don't make a difference at all shouldn't be driving in the first place, as their judgment is obviously impaired.
And the idiots who think they don't make a difference at all shouldn't be driving in the first place, as their judgment is obviously impaired.
It is worth noting that winter tires are optimized for different conditions. Some are designed to work better in loose snow, some in icy conditions, and some when it's cold but dry. This stuff is worth taking into account when choosing tires ideal for your typical winter conditions..... One thing to note though, is that the tires available now are actually WINTER tires, not SNOW tires.
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There are studies that show winter tires saves lives:
http://www.gtradial.com/global/News-and-Media-Center/4260
Accidents down 5%, death and injury 3%.
http://www.gtradial.com/global/News-and-Media-Center/4260
Accidents down 5%, death and injury 3%.
Hobbyhorse: With current airfares wouldn't you be better off just flying down south and buying a used 3-4 year old car for FL thus saving yourself all the hassles of driving back and forth often in winter storms?So need some advice: what to do... In a couple of years I plan to start commuting to Florida, leaving at end of December, returning beginning of April...
So... should I drive snowtires down and wear them out tripping around the Sunshine State or All weather or all season and white knuckle it through Ontario and the northern states like Pennslylvania?
That is under ideal theoretical conditions. When it comes to tires, on dry pavement the shear limits of the materials also come into play. So when a tire becomes unstuck, it is not just sliding, it is also the surface layer of the material shedding. This is to some extent why larger tires can generate more traction as the shearing force is spread out over more material.It is, under ideal conditions. Friction = Fc x force
[video]http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/18/weather/weather-winter-cold/index.html[/video]
Deaths due to icy conditions. Drive carefully.
Deaths due to icy conditions. Drive carefully.
These videos show what can happen in bad weather. I experienced something similar to these types of crashes once. It can change your life.
Top winter tires:
http://www.wheels.ca/top-ten/top-10-winter-tires-for-2016/
Briegestone Blizzak appears to be one of the very best out there.
http://www.wheels.ca/top-ten/top-10-winter-tires-for-2016/
Briegestone Blizzak appears to be one of the very best out there.
Blizzak WS80 scored the best results for acceleration traction and stopping distance on snow and ice plus excellent road manners in tests of studless ice and snow tires, conducted by Tire Rack. Blizzak WS80 is best for city commuters and features an optimized contact patch with the road, helping to distribute forces evenly and effectively for better stability and control in dry, icy and snowy conditions.
“I have WS80s on my Honda Odyssey and they are fantastic in all winter conditions. The WS80 is Bridgestone’s flagship model for cars and minivans.” commented Billy Lau.
