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Mr.Know-It-All

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squeezer if you learn anything from me... if you remember anything I've written, let it be this:

"A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird
froze and fell to the ground in a large field. While it was lying
there, a cow came by and shat all over it. As the frozen bird lay
there in the pile of shit, it began to realize how warm it was.
The shit was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and
happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing
and came to investigate. Following the
sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of shit
and promptly dug him out and ate him.

Lesson?
1) Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.
2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend."

I will continue shitting all over people like you and mandrill during my tenure at TERB.
 

HungSowel

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squeezer if you learn anything from me... if you remember anything I've written, let it be this:

"A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird
froze and fell to the ground in a large field. While it was lying
there, a cow came by and shat all over it. As the frozen bird lay
there in the pile of shit, it began to realize how warm it was.
The shit was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and
happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing
and came to investigate. Following the
sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of shit
and promptly dug him out and ate him.

Lesson?
1) Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.
2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend."

I will continue shitting all over people like you and mandrill during my tenure at TERB.
You have a lot of people to thank for shitting on you then, including squeezer.
 

Jenesis

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Give it a rest. That's not a girl being choked out simply for not wearing a mask. That's a follow-on from some other incident, either part of the rioting or totally unconnected.
There was absolutely no reason to choke her. He should have used proper restraining techniques. Not that.
 
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mandrill

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There was absolutely no reason to choke her. He should have used proper restraining techniques. Not that.
That might actually be a proper restraining technique, if she was resisting. We don't know what the police manual says; nor do we know what happened before the video.
 

mandrill

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i was talking about you defending him
He isn't squeezing her throat. He isn't forcing her to the ground. He backs her into another cop and the other cop assists with an arrest. If she was resisting that sounds like reasonable force to make an arrest to me. He didn't injure her. He didn't take punches at her. He didn't kick her. He and his cop buddies didn't pile on.

What do you think actually happens when cops arrest people who are resisting?.... Eventually the arrestee is going to be physically forced to submit. That's how it happens.
 
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mandrill

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I suggest you watch the video again
she is half his size and yes he is choking the shit out of her
plus please watch the whole video where at the end he is sitting on top of her
She's being arrested. So yes, they restrain her. She's in a chokehold. It's reasonable force to accomplish the arrest. You ever seen an arrest actually happen in real life?

At the end, she is still resisting arrest and he is trying to grab her wrists and cuff her. It's a legit arrest.

What do think happens when people get arrested?
 

mandrill

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some never make it to the police station alive
If they kneeled on her chest for 10 minutes and she stopped breathing, I'd be the first to agree.

I remember when I was a kid watching the news and seeing Daley's Chicago PD break up a hippie anti war demo outside the '68 Democratic Convention. The cops waded into that crowd with riot sticks and there was blood all over those kids. What happened with that girl was pretty mild.
 

mandrill

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lucky for her the video is only 32 seconds long
Well, it was shot by her friends. So I am assuming they made the most of it and edited out any footage that would make her look bad or the cops look good.
 

Jenesis

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That might actually be a proper restraining technique, if she was resisting. We don't know what the police manual says; nor do we know what happened before the video.
You know damn well that is not an official technique. You’re a lawyer. If you did civil, you would be all over that and you know it.

I’m not saying that if she was resisting she shouldn’t be restrained but there is a proper way to do and that was totally not it. Period.

I will add I saw nothing wrong with him on her when she was on the ground. It is the direct choking and holding her by her neck that I take issue with.
 

mandrill

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You know damn well that is not an official technique. You’re a lawyer. If you did civil, you would be all over that and you know it.

I’m not saying that if she was resisting she shouldn’t be restrained but there is a proper way to do and that was totally not it. Period.
Actually I DON'T know that's not an official technique. It brought her under control. She wasn't injured and the arrest was completed. Sounds a pretty good choice by that cop.

What else is he supposed to do? Try and grab her arms? Tackle her to the ground? And we have no idea what happened before because the girl's buddies edited that part of the video out.
 

Jenesis

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Actually I DON'T know that's not an official technique. It brought her under control. She wasn't injured and the arrest was completed. Sounds a pretty good choice by that cop.

What else is he supposed to do? Try and grab her arms? Tackle her to the ground? And we have no idea what happened before because the girl's buddies edited that part of the video out.
I don’t believe you. Sorry but knowing your industry and field of practice, I believe you know that is not an official technique.

I agree we don’t know what happens before. I agree that she was indeed restrained and does not appear to be injured but I can’t get behind choke hold like that. Sorry. Guess we will have to, at least in public, agree to disagree because again, I don’t believe that privately you don’t know it is wrong.
 
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mandrill

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I don’t believe you. Sorry but knowing your industry and field of practice, I believe you know that is not an official technique.

I agree we don’t know what happens before. I agree that she was indeed restrained and does not appear to be injured but I can’t get behind choke hold like that. Sorry. Guess we will have to, at least in public, agree to disagree because again, I don’t believe that privately you don’t know it is wrong.
Like I said, I DON'T know that is not an official technique. You assume it isn't. But for all you know, chokeholds might be a recognized proper technique.
 

The Oracle

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There was absolutely no reason to choke her. He should have used proper restraining techniques. Not that.
If a supposedly trained law enforcement officer can't restrain and subdue a female quite a bit smaller than him without wrapping his hands around her throat then he needs to be sidelined and retrained.

Can you imagine if this happened in the states and she were a POC.......There would be a huge out cry from the left.

Anybody who defends this type of behaviour is just plain ignorant.

Usually I defend the police but they are using obvious excessive force in the videos I have seen and posted. In this video age you're going to get taken to task for that.
 
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Jenesis

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Like I said, I DON'T know that is not an official technique. You assume it isn't. But for all you know, chokeholds might be a recognized proper technique.
Like I said, I don’t believe you that you don’t know this is wrong.
 

squeezer

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squeezer if you learn anything from me... if you remember anything I've written, let it be this:

"A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird
froze and fell to the ground in a large field. While it was lying
there, a cow came by and shat all over it. As the frozen bird lay
there in the pile of shit, it began to realize how warm it was.
The shit was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and
happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing
and came to investigate. Following the
sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of shit
and promptly dug him out and ate him.

Lesson?
1) Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.
2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend."

I will continue shitting all over people like you and mandrill during my tenure at TERB.
That's an awesome story. Poor little bird!

Here is one for you, more like a quick fact.

I'd have no hesitation of shitting on you if you needed help.
 

mandrill

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Like I said, I don’t believe you that you don’t know this is wrong.
You just essentially called me a liar and I'm putting you on ignore.
 

Jenesis

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You just essentially called me a liar and I'm putting you on ignore.
Yes I am. So go ahead. Wouldn’t be the first time.

There is no way that you don’t know that is wrong and not a proper technique. You know damn well it is not here Canada. Australia and Canada are not that much different in their policing protocols.

Same with the US.

There is no way putting two hands around a persons neck and moving them around with that force is a proper technique.

If it was a black woman in the US, there would be riots over this. In Canada there would Lawsuits, etc

This is not proper and you know it so yeah - I’m calling you out as liar.
 
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