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Attempted Election Fraud by Changing Mail-In Forms from ‘Democrat’ to Republican

bver_hunter

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These Republicans including the Trump supporters are Corrupt to the Core:

Letter Carrier Attempted Election Fraud by Changing Mail-In Forms from ‘Democrat’ to ‘Republican,’ DOJ Says

A letter carrier has been charged in federal court with attempted election fraud related to mail-in requests for primary ballots, the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of West Virginia announced Tuesday. The mail-in primary ballot requests appear to have been part of a state plan to send absentee ballot requests to everyone in West Virginia during the novel coronavirus pandemic.

The postman defendant, Thomas Cooper, 47, of Dry Fork, faces one count. That’s according to court documents obtained by Law&Crime. Cooper even “admitted to altering some of the requests, saying it was a joke,” the Department of Justice said in a news release.

Here’s how the investigation unfolded.

“In April 2020, the Clerk of Pendleton County received ‘2020 Primary Election COVID-19 Mail-In Absentee Request’ forms from eight voters on which the voter’s party-ballot request appeared to have been altered,” the DOJ said in a news release. The West Virginia Secretary of State’s office investigated and determined that “five ballot requests . . . had been altered from ‘Democrat’ to ‘Republican,'” the news release said. “On three other requests, the party wasn’t changed, but the request had been altered.”

The forms “appeared to have been altered by use of a black-ink pen,” stated an affidavit filed in court by an investigator from the state attorney general’s office.

That affidavit makes it clear that voters’ requests for ballots were alleged to have been illegally altered; the alterations did not occur on ballots themselves. The altered requests, however, would have resulted in some voters receiving ballots for candidates of the wrong party, the court papers say, since West Virginia voters can only vote in one party’s primary.

“Had Cooper’s conduct not been detected, it would have caused the [County] Clerk to give Republican ballots to 5 Democrat voters—skewing the primary election by 5 votes and thereby defrauding all West Virginian’s [sic] of a fair election,” the court documents state.


One of the altered ballot request forms. — [Image via federal court records.]

The investigator’s affidavit said the clerk knew something was wrong when a family she knew to be Democrats had, on paper, requested Republican ballots. The clerk called the family; the family “suggested that a mail carrier might have tampered with their requests,” the affidavit said (italics in original).
The forms also had odd mixes of blue and black ink, the affidavit said, further suggesting something was amiss. (The copies filed in federal court, unfortunately, are only in black and white.)


One of the altered ballot request forms. — [Image via federal court records.]

The tampered requests were mailed to the towns of Onego, Riverton, and Franklin, W.Va., the news release said.
Cooper’s admission came, according to the investigator’s affidavit, during an April 27th recorded interview. Cooper said, “yes,” he changed requests which had been mailed directly from the Onego, W.Va. post office.

“If it was on my route, I would take the blame,” Cooper said as to the others.

“You were just being silly?” a postal inspector who was part of the interview asked.

“Yeah,” Cooper said, “as a joke.”

Cooper said “ don’t even know them” with reference to the people whose ballots were admittedly altered.

Thomas, according to court documents, is charged with violating 52 U.S.C. § 20511(2)(B). That statute penalizes anyone who “knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by . . . the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held.”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...y_hLcR5gdeZSltvWgobQidD5AyFEDltb61NvpvjG0qOcg
 

basketcase

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Guess Trump is right that mail in voting encourages fraud. Too bad the fraud is on his side.
 

jcpro

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Guess Trump is right that mail in voting encourages fraud. Too bad the fraud is on his side.
The mail in fraud is on all sides and on all levels. People have gone to prison for it on numerous occasions. The mai in voting, advance voting, anti voters id initiatives, votes buying and the plethora of rules that are not standardized between states are an invitation to abuse and fraud.
 

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The mail in fraud is on all sides and on all levels. People have gone to prison for it on numerous occasions. The mai in voting, advance voting, anti voters id initiatives, votes buying and the plethora of rules that are not standardized between states are an invitation to abuse and fraud.
And they have generally been so small in scale that they have made no impact.

Big story is really (as usual) Trump is full of shit with his claims of the Democrats planning massive election fraud.
 

jcpro

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And they have generally been so small in scale that they have made no impact.

Big story is really (as usual) Trump is full of shit with his claims of the Democrats planning massive election fraud.
Then why are you losing your shit over it? The Twitter "fact checked" Trump, only to be fact checked itself in return, almost instantly. The point being, that like justice, elections not only need to be honest, but must be SEEN as honest AND clean. Our system of governance depends on it. That goes as much for America as for any other representative democracy.
 

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Then why are you losing your shit over it? The Twitter "fact checked" Trump, only to be fact checked itself in return, almost instantly. The point being, that like justice, elections not only need to be honest, but must be SEEN as honest AND clean. Our system of governance depends on it. That goes as much for America as for any other representative democracy.
I'm losing my shit because I'm making fun of trump losing his shit?

Seems this story has touched a nerve with you.
 

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Then why are you losing your shit over it? The Twitter "fact checked" Trump, only to be fact checked itself in return, almost instantly. The point being, that like justice, elections not only need to be honest, but must be SEEN as honest AND clean. Our system of governance depends on it. That goes as much for America as for any other representative democracy.
Farkin hilarious!

This, from one of the most ardent supporters of the biggest conman, fraudster, scam artist, cheater, thief and liar in history.
 

jcpro

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Farkin hilarious!

This, from one of the most ardent supporters of the biggest conman, fraudster, scam artist, cheater, thief and liar in history.
Nah, you're just upset that Trump whipped your heroine without having to resort to petty chicanery, hence your evident, but quite impotent anger.
 

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Nah, you're just upset that Trump whipped your heroine without having to resort to petty chicanery, hence your evident, but quite impotent anger.
She got more votes.
Took the electoral college, Putin, Comey and wikileaks for Trump to even beat Clinton.
 

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The point being, that like justice, elections not only need to be honest, but must be SEEN as honest AND clean. Our system of governance depends on it. That goes as much for America as for any other representative democracy.
This is completely true. There is a reason the GOP has been screaming "voter fraud" for years now, and it is to delegitimize elections. By arguing that all elections are always dirty, they can argue no one should accept election results and therefore the GOP should always be in power.

It's insidious and Trumps latest bullshit about mail fraud is just part of the same game.
 

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This is completely true. There is a reason the GOP has been screaming "voter fraud" for years now, and it is to delegitimize elections. By arguing that all elections are always dirty, they can argue no one should accept election results and therefore the GOP should always be in power.

It's insidious and Trumps latest bullshit about mail fraud is just part of the same game.
Myopic partisanship. America went through three long years of listening to liberals explaining how Trump "stole" the election with the help of the foreigners. CNN got the Pulitzer Prize for "breaking" the story, a Special Council was appointed and poor Franky had his heart broken when nothing came out of it.
 

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No one accused the Russians of committing voter fraud. (Some rando on the internet probably did, but there is always some rando on the internet.)

But yes, part of screaming voter fraud for years was to make it that you would ignore that there was election interference. It worked. You have been successfully propagandized.

The point of this and the fake news yelling and so on is so that since it is "all bullshit" you will stop thinking for yourself and just take the party line. Even better, you will accuse anyone else disagreeing with you as just taking the other party line.

It has mostly worked, and I'm not sure it can be fixed. Epistemic closure is going to wreck shit.
 

Frankfooter

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Myopic partisanship. America went through three long years of listening to liberals explaining how Trump "stole" the election with the help of the foreigners. CNN got the Pulitzer Prize for "breaking" the story, a Special Council was appointed and poor Franky had his heart broken when nothing came out of it.
Trump was impeached.
That's not nothing.
 

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Sorry, Twitter, But Trump Is Right About Mail-In Ballots


President Donald Trump has had a problematic week on Twitter, engaging in political combat with foils like MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough has inspired a backlash beyond any he’s faced before as president.

Part of the reaction was Twitter’s decision to stick a “fact check” label on two of Trump’s tweets about mail-in ballots. This decision, in turn sparked its own backlash around issues of freedom of expression and political bias. (Will President Stacey Abrams ever get a tweet fact-checked by Twitter? Probably not.)




Overlooked in the social media scrum over Trump’s tweets, however, is the one issue most relevant to voters in New Hampshire: Donald Trump is right about mail-in ballots.

Mostly.

First, the tweets:






Per usual with President Trump, there’s a lot he gets wrong. Is it true that California is “sending Ballots to…anyone living in the state?” No. They are sending ballots to “all registered voters.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mes-california-vote-by-mail-order/5254867002/

But that’s where Trump’s concerns about mail-in ballots are on target.



Concerns about mail-in voting and fraud aren’t new.

A bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Federal_Election_Reform
co-chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker declared, “Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

In the 2018 midterms, a congressional election in North Carolina was overturned and had to be re-held because an unscrupulous Republican operative was using mail-in ballots to scam the system.

And the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) just released data https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...il-In-Forms-from-%91Democrat%92-to-Republican
that more than 28 million ballots by mail went unaccounted for from 2012 to 2018, with more than one million going to the incorrect address in 2018 alone.

“Absentee ballot fraud is the most common, the most expensive to investigate, and it can never be reversed after an election,” said the organization’s president J. Christian Adams.

“The status quo was already bad for mail balloting. The proposed emergency fix is worse.”




More recently, “in a Supreme Court contest in Wisconsin in April, about 1,600 ballots were discovered the morning after Election Day in a mail processing facility in Chicago — 1,600 voters whose ballots did not count,” The Hill reports. “Hundreds more who applied for absentee ballots did not receive them in time, https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499640-mail-ballot-surge-places-postal-service-under-spotlight
according to a report by the state Board of Elections.”

And literally the same day President Trump tweeted that mail-in ballots “would be forged,” the Department of Justice announced a mail carrier in West Virginia was being charged with attempted election fraud by committing forgery on mail-in ballots.

Does this mean mail-in ballot fraud is widespread? A threat to democracy? Not necessarily.

But it does prove that Trump’s point — mail-in voting is more susceptible to fraud — is indisputably true. And for obvious reasons: New Hampshire’s polling places and handling of ballots there is entirely secure.

Which is why the New Hampshire Democratic Party’s efforts on behalf of mail-in voting, online voter registration (also fraught with opportunities for fraud) and other changes to the election system inspire such little passion from voters. Granite Staters tell pollsters they support “no-excuse absentee ballots” (aka “vote by mail,”), but the state has the third-highest turnout in the nation using traditional, and secure, voting practices. New Hampshire voters turn out at higher rates than states that have implemented more expansive mail-in voting.

Still, Democrats press on. Reps. Annie Kuster and Chris Pappas voted to have the federal government take control of New Hampshire elections and force the state to use mail-in voting, not just as part of a COVID-19 election solution in 2020, but permanently.

As for the impact of mass mailings of ballots to last-known addresses, read this first-person story of mail-in ballot “fraud.”

Twitter’s decision to fact-check politicians’ tweets is problematic enough. They probably should have waited for a Trump tweet that actually got the facts wrong.

If history is any guide, they wouldn’t have to wait long.

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Don;t take our word for it... here's none other than Jerry Nadler explaining: "Paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud...I can show you experience which would make your head spin."


Danny De Urbina
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Jerry Nadler in 2004: “Paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud...I can show you experience which would make your head spin.”

https://twitter.com/dannydeurbina/status/1265026079456145412
 

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Trump to 'sign executive order about social media'

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52815872

In other words Trump is pissed off with the Social Media. Ahhhhh, what a moron!!
If social media ONLY encourages and monitizes LIBERAL thought and suggestion, why should he let social media run wild spreading THEIR version of any story without the other side being allowed?

Dont you see a problem with that?

Are you the type of person that lets both sides tell their story or just the one side is sufficient enough for you?
 

bver_hunter

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If social media ONLY encourages and monitizes LIBERAL thought and suggestion, why should he let social media run wild spreading THEIR version of any story without the other side being allowed?

Dont you see a problem with that?

Are you the type of person that lets both sides tell their story or just the one side is sufficient enough for you?
Really?? In the last elections who was the bias in favour of?? Whoever, spreads fake information, be it left, right or centre, including Trump, then the owners of the Social Media have every right to remove it from their sites.

We have seen Trump pedal the Obama Birther Conspiracy for years, and more recently this disgusting Scarborough murder allegations, that run in parallel to the Seth Rich murder allegations against Clinton and The Democrats. That is where fake hosts like Hannity and Fox News had a hand in it.

How about the Pizzagate nonsense??
 

bver_hunter

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Its nothing when all they found was NOTHING.
Not true, as Moscow Mitch should have allowed the true investigations to go ahead in the subpoena of the evidence that was hidden under wraps.

No doubt one day in the not too distant future will we see all these coverups being exposed including Trump's own corrupt tax returns!!
 
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