Asking College Students if They Know Why They are Protesting
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They have no right and you know that.
But as my last comment here is if you support a terrorist group of people it shows who you truly are. Look at the Palestinian history of hate.
Have fun defending your terrorist friends.
They have every right, as it is a right in a democracy to protest and demand changes.
Calling Palestine terrorist, is hate speech. Hamas are Palestinians. Palestinians are not Hamas. Don't conflate the two. The students do not support Hamas. They support Palestinians who are just regular people.
On the other hand, support for Israel, is support for terrorism. Israel is a terrorist, illegally occupying, genocidal state.
Here is an example of incitement to genocide:
There are Kahanists in the Israeli government that Canada identify as terrorists.
Ben Gvir is convicted of supporting terrorism by Israel.
That's terrorism there that you are defending.
Not to mention targeting and killing 15,000 women and children certainly looks like terrorism, as does the total destruction of Gaza and its universities, hospitals and infrastructure.
So are you saying that Facebook, Microsoft etc.have no impact on the public? And as such and that their employees have a right to demand transparency? You are in fine form tonight..
Students can ask, but they have zero right in making demands regarding regarding a universities business dealings. They have a total right to find another university to attend.
Despite their public impact, Facebook and Microsoft are businesses. So people can boycott businesses if they dont like what they do. But at the end of the day they are businesses that employees who are paid to work there, cannot control.
Universities on the other hand, are institutions where students pay to study, and can therefore absolutely make demands of. Which is what the students are rightfully doing.
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You're irrational rationalization of horrendous genocide is beyond reason. You are unreachable. I won't waste my time on your inhumanity.
Students are justified in protesting if the university they joined in Sept aids the genocide that started in Oct, considering that Israel destroyed every single university in Gaza and ran a campaign to assassinate profs.
This is the speech Columbia cancelled.
This is Calgary using riot cops on students.
Like I said, you are incapable of addressing any of my points, which are all valid. All you can do is rant.
They have the right, but have no right to make demands or occupy property which is not theirs.
You totally support Israel illegally occupying Palestine and think students protesting genocide is an 'illegal occupation'.
That is the most ridiculous lack of self awareness I've seen from you all day!
What a fucking mess of a response....
So, I'm just going to talk about one of the stupid things you said, which was that someone who hates Hamas shouldn't protest against Israel. Why not? Why is that dumb? You can hate a terror organization but still be outraged and disgusted by Israel's actions in Gaza, where they have killed thousands with little regard to the fact that they were civilians. Does that make Israel better than Hamas, who would kill and Israeli given the opportunity? It is pretty obvious that you see things in black or white. There is no grey. No nuance to any argument. It figures.
So, I'm just going to talk about one of the stupid things you said, which was that someone who hates Hamas shouldn't protest against Israel. Why not? Why is that dumb? You can hate a terror organization but still be outraged and disgusted by Israel's actions in Gaza, where they have killed thousands with little regard to the fact that they were civilians. Does that make Israel better than Hamas, who would kill and Israeli given the opportunity? It is pretty obvious that you see things in black or white. There is no grey. No nuance to any argument. It figures.
The UN votes to admit Palestine as a full member, though they do not yet get a vote.
Trudeau abstained.
Trudeau abstained.
It's functionally binary.
This is a problem with any FPTP system, but presidential elections in the US more than most.
Functionally, RFK Jr and Cornel West cannot win.
They can only help one of Trump or Biden win.
Hell, RFK's campaign person in New York even told Trump supporters that - the common enemy is Biden, and RFK running makes it easier for Trump to win. (Now, she may be wrong about that, since her whole argument was based on RFK Jr winning blue states like New York, but that is what she said.)
Cornel West won't be running in most states.
The US system, as constructed, will elect only Biden or Trump.
Any vote you cast (or choice not to vote) will only change the odds of one of those two outcomes.
Interesting rhetorical trick in that tweet.
Biden talks about "Hamas" and this guy then makes the analogy to "White people" not (for instance) "The KKK".
Pretty obvious, but I guess it is good enough for twitter engagement.
Let me know when you want to have a serious discussion, which is impossible as long as you intentionally misrepresent what others are saying.
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if you hate Hamas, you are supporting them by protesting against Israel (jews)
i know it is a two step application of logic, is that beyond your capabilities ?
they are mortal enemies, Hamas wants to eliminate Israel (jews) and Israel (Jews) is (are) no fan of that idea
So, if you hate both , it raises the question who don't you hate?
what the value of an opinion driven by hatred ?
hatred is not a good rational for any action , including protesting
protesting is an attempt at moral suasion. When was the last time hatred held the moral high ground ?
but alas , you chose the word hate
a better rational might be you oppose Hamas's barbaric actions
you could also oppose actions by Israel (Jews) to defend itself (themselves)
but then you are back to supporting Hamas by protesting against Israel (Jews)
the other obvious reason if you hate Hamas and you hate Israel (Jews) , your view is not fully expressed at a protest
Protests against Israel (Jews) are perceived by the public as just that 'a Protests against Israel (Jews)" and only Israel (Jews)
protesting is an attempt at moral suasion of the public
are you sure you only want the public to know about only 50% of your hatred?
now you could go and protest against both Hamas and Israel (jews) at the same time , but you would just be the lone blithering idiot screaming hatred on the street corner.
enough nuance to differentiate between hatred and opposing
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