Are you doing it without condom?
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In her RIGHT mind ... will never do it without a condom, but I do know some SPSs who offer an extra fee to do it without a condom, and they are just plain nuts.
Your basically playing russian roullet. a lot of people are showing no symptons of stds or aids. so why risk it and are you really going to trust it when a client says I am clean trust me.
You must have money saved for your funneral if your going to do. and how many clients are actually going to take an hiv test then see an sp after 2 weeks of waiting for results.
Your basically playing russian roullet. a lot of people are showing no symptons of stds or aids. so why risk it and are you really going to trust it when a client says I am clean trust me.
You must have money saved for your funneral if your going to do. and how many clients are actually going to take an hiv test then see an sp after 2 weeks of waiting for results.
some fairly stupid responses here:
There is definite risk involved in having unprotected sex. It's not the same risk as playing russian roulette though - for the simple reason that the odds are different.
You need to make your own decisions as to whether that's a risk worth taking. Please also note that if the person you have unprotected sex with is having unprotected sex with others then the risk is even higher (still not russian roulette).
You need to also consider that someone willing to take that risk with you might well be prone to taking risks (still not russian roulette!!!!)
But as you've pointed out (and some fail to recognize) sex with a condom just isn't nearly as good.
You get a totally hot girl
There are ways around it, but it can get pricey and/or time consuming. First, find a service provider. Build the relationship using protection. Ask about her willingness to have unprotected sex at some point. If it is possible, in the future relationship, ask her if she's willing to be tested. If so,.......
Now, now test is foolproof and it can't guarantee future safety. But a clean test goes a long way to reducing the risk.
Here's the catch - if you're lucky enough to find that girl you're going to have to make it very worth her while. You're likely going to have to get tested too.
If, on the other hand, you're just looking for a one time deal - you're wasting your time and taking a relatively stupid risk (still not russian roulette).
There is definite risk involved in having unprotected sex. It's not the same risk as playing russian roulette though - for the simple reason that the odds are different.
You need to make your own decisions as to whether that's a risk worth taking. Please also note that if the person you have unprotected sex with is having unprotected sex with others then the risk is even higher (still not russian roulette).
You need to also consider that someone willing to take that risk with you might well be prone to taking risks (still not russian roulette!!!!)
But as you've pointed out (and some fail to recognize) sex with a condom just isn't nearly as good.
You get a totally hot girl
There are ways around it, but it can get pricey and/or time consuming. First, find a service provider. Build the relationship using protection. Ask about her willingness to have unprotected sex at some point. If it is possible, in the future relationship, ask her if she's willing to be tested. If so,.......
Now, now test is foolproof and it can't guarantee future safety. But a clean test goes a long way to reducing the risk.
Here's the catch - if you're lucky enough to find that girl you're going to have to make it very worth her while. You're likely going to have to get tested too.
If, on the other hand, you're just looking for a one time deal - you're wasting your time and taking a relatively stupid risk (still not russian roulette).
kacy said:
I want to seduce your right hand into cheating on you with me. If it works out, I will suggest a threesome.
TQM said:
Just make sure you get her t-shirt size so you can surprise her with his 'n' hers "I'm With Stupid" shirts for that romantic hour of fluid exchange. And a teeny tiny one for the wee one sure to result, given I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be smart enough to know or care about that complicated and annoying birth control stuff either...
That I believe is best reserved for a mutually exclusive monogamous relationship with someone with whom you have a serious committed romantic - emotional relationship (as in marriage is at least visible on the horizon). You really have to have implicit trust in the other person.Shaunhorny said:
Yes, I do see the irony of posting the above statement on TERB.
calloway said:
I hear what you're saying... I know where I've been, I'd never touch myself without one!
Vff
Here's your argument: you shouldn't have sex with someone who's been tested and is STD free because why? Because they must be stupid and so stupid that they won't be on birth control.
Well frankly, VFF, most service providers (whether SP, MPA, or stripper or muse) aren't exactly rocket scientists. And further, If I were interested in rocket scientists to discuss rocket science I wouldn't care about what sex they were. In other words, being bright isn't a prerequisite.
But the fact is 'muse' (or mistress) is higher up on the food chain than SP or MPA or stripper. I've been fortunate to have had four such long term relationships. With each I quickly reached a point where I was having glorious unprotected sex.
Turning it around, I can't imagine, except with certain conditions, wanting to have sex where you ejaculate into a rubber. Whereas getting that young hot girl in bed - it's a major turn on knowing my cum is in her. So you have to take risk assessment. I won't do it with an SP. I won't do it unless the girl gets tested (and with some frequency).
It's far more valuable to me than to use a condom. As such I'm willing to pay more. No - none of these girls were rocket scientists. But they weren't stupid either. I'd wager, overall 3 of the 4 were actually reasonably bright.
But think what you want. Still - you've got to know there is a whole world out there of sugar daddies and their mistresses (in the traditional sense of the term) and if you think they are using condoms, you're crazy.
Here's your argument: you shouldn't have sex with someone who's been tested and is STD free because why? Because they must be stupid and so stupid that they won't be on birth control.
Well frankly, VFF, most service providers (whether SP, MPA, or stripper or muse) aren't exactly rocket scientists. And further, If I were interested in rocket scientists to discuss rocket science I wouldn't care about what sex they were. In other words, being bright isn't a prerequisite.
But the fact is 'muse' (or mistress) is higher up on the food chain than SP or MPA or stripper. I've been fortunate to have had four such long term relationships. With each I quickly reached a point where I was having glorious unprotected sex.
Turning it around, I can't imagine, except with certain conditions, wanting to have sex where you ejaculate into a rubber. Whereas getting that young hot girl in bed - it's a major turn on knowing my cum is in her. So you have to take risk assessment. I won't do it with an SP. I won't do it unless the girl gets tested (and with some frequency).
It's far more valuable to me than to use a condom. As such I'm willing to pay more. No - none of these girls were rocket scientists. But they weren't stupid either. I'd wager, overall 3 of the 4 were actually reasonably bright.
But think what you want. Still - you've got to know there is a whole world out there of sugar daddies and their mistresses (in the traditional sense of the term) and if you think they are using condoms, you're crazy.
Bud Plug said:
My feelings exactly.
Fortunately for me, just about every GF I have ever had did not use condoms. The last one hated them even more than me. To be honest, I might start out with the condoms, but they disappear after the third time usually.
I get little if any sensation when using a condom. Like you, I find them depressing and half the time, lose my hardon.
If I was seeing a pro, I'd opt for a condom for the big event, but that's about it.
CBJ, don't even bother. She could suck for an hour, I won't cum.
I haven't bothered with SP's for full service in God knows how long. I respect their desire to use a condom and would NEVER even ask not to. In fact, I would be suspicious of any SP who did not - for the main even. BBBJ to me is fine. But main even with an SP, I'd want a condom. However, since I don't get any enjoyment out of sex with a condom, I don't bother with SPs. My choice is the MP scene. A hand job can feel just as good as sex, even better. You might not get the psych out of a HJ, but it works fine for me. And no condom.
TQM said:
Hmmmm...let's ask somebody...Hey, TQM!
TQM said:
Around these parts TQM, we'd call the birth control part a "joke".
TQM said:
At least not for the ones bowled over by your particular charms
TQM said:
Is that the part of the food chain where they give you silverware made of shiny metal stuff? I've heard the food is served on some type of flat clay disk as well.
TQM said:
Now I'm no rocket scientist, but didn't you just specify above "First find a service provider"? Remember, us SPs aren't too bright and we get confused real easy-like. You may have to draw pictures 'n' stuff.
james t kirk said:
Super suggestion. The MP scene may be where I belong too. Having small feminine hands do the job can be quite exhiliarating.
It's psychological torture having a beautiful woman in front of you and not being able to climax because the condom makes the little head feel like lead. Money spent and you're still left with blue balls as well as a small underlying feeling of inadequacy.
I'm going to try SP three more times with ones that I think are perfect for me and if my little head continues to strike out, I'm done with it. I already feel somewhat uneasy paying for these services (never would I have imagined this years ago), I might as well not let all of it go to waste. We all have skeletons in the closet and this one will be mine.
I was told recently by a SP that one of her Mr. Johns actually wanted to use a condom when doing Digits, what the f**k! LOL. May be we are taking paranoia to the xtreme?
NO, I DO NOT have unprotected sex and try to do the best by opting for ribbed, or ultrasensitive condoms.
On the other hand I enjoy bbbj and DATY though I am very clear about need for hygiene here. Also, I go by my instincts and would not participate in these acts if I am not comfortable.
NO, I DO NOT have unprotected sex and try to do the best by opting for ribbed, or ultrasensitive condoms.
On the other hand I enjoy bbbj and DATY though I am very clear about need for hygiene here. Also, I go by my instincts and would not participate in these acts if I am not comfortable.
vff
Forgive me for using sp in two different senses - of the 4 relationships I've been in, 1 was a stripper; another was an mpa. None were SP's in the sense of escort. That's all I meant.
As for the rest, you can believe what you want, but it's obvious there's a much bigger world out there than you realize. Do you know there's escort services in both New York City, LA and Las Vegas that tests girls for each client because at the price being paid ain't nobody going to be using a condom?
Again, I'm not talking about one time interactions here. I've got nothing against being paid by the hour; but there's a whole different level that this game can be played at.
The bottom line is this: many men strongly desire and prefer sex without a condom. Physically, it feels much better. Psychologically, it has much greater appeal. As such, these men are willing to pay for it - pay extra for it.
Yes - these men will want to minimize the risks. That's part of the cost of the transaction. But the fact is, for most condomless sex is better.
I'm not trying to convince you to engage in the activity. I'm merely explaining why men naturally want it and how to get it. My advice is sound.
Your position is nothing but rhetoric.
Forgive me for using sp in two different senses - of the 4 relationships I've been in, 1 was a stripper; another was an mpa. None were SP's in the sense of escort. That's all I meant.
As for the rest, you can believe what you want, but it's obvious there's a much bigger world out there than you realize. Do you know there's escort services in both New York City, LA and Las Vegas that tests girls for each client because at the price being paid ain't nobody going to be using a condom?
Again, I'm not talking about one time interactions here. I've got nothing against being paid by the hour; but there's a whole different level that this game can be played at.
The bottom line is this: many men strongly desire and prefer sex without a condom. Physically, it feels much better. Psychologically, it has much greater appeal. As such, these men are willing to pay for it - pay extra for it.
Yes - these men will want to minimize the risks. That's part of the cost of the transaction. But the fact is, for most condomless sex is better.
I'm not trying to convince you to engage in the activity. I'm merely explaining why men naturally want it and how to get it. My advice is sound.
Your position is nothing but rhetoric.
I don't have a position on any of this. I had a comment and question or two on how you were expressing your opinion.
If you really feel there's men or women here who have absolutely no idea that sex feels better without a condom, or that some women can be persuaded to go without them if you pay them a great deal of money over an extended time period (mistress or wife, take your pick), then by all means, continue with the sound advice. Me and my rhetoric will go play in traffic
If you really feel there's men or women here who have absolutely no idea that sex feels better without a condom, or that some women can be persuaded to go without them if you pay them a great deal of money over an extended time period (mistress or wife, take your pick), then by all means, continue with the sound advice. Me and my rhetoric will go play in traffic
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