Lots may want them, because they are supposedly 'sweet', but how many succeed in becoming officers. A whole lot less than the number of who apply.
Are Canadian police paid too much?
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Lots may want them, because they are supposedly 'sweet', but how many succeed in becoming officers. A whole lot less than the number of who apply.
I don't think it really has anything to do with not making enough.
Look at the TTC ticket booth guy who stole from the sales of tickets. I'm pretty sure he was making over 100K.
If you're a bad person and you know you have an opportunity to get away with it. The money is always good to them. It's the same for police especially when there's a code of silence.
The only major department where I know this has been a real issue is New Orleans - and there for years the salary levels were well below the average.
That's right- the amount of money available to bribe a cop far outweighs anything we could pay them
A corrupt person will take the bribe no matter what they are paid
Was the crime higher or lower in the fifties and sixties when cops were paid less and we're high school educated at best?
Interestingly enough, on the Government Corruption Index, the US ranks 20th best Canada is 9th and Finland is 1st out of 175 countries. Uzbekistan was last.
http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/gov_cor-government-corruption&ob=ws
Further to the US; http://www.policemisconduct.net/2010-npmsrp-police-misconduct-statistical-report/
this was a surprise;http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=6486&embed
http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/gov_cor-government-corruption&ob=ws
Further to the US; http://www.policemisconduct.net/2010-npmsrp-police-misconduct-statistical-report/
this was a surprise;http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=6486&embed
I don't think we want people who are attracted by money, that is not attracting the right kind of person. A bit more turnover would be good. Too many lifers on the payroll.
Why is it a surprise? Almost no officers get held to account for misconduct so the rate appears low.
Way overpaid and $80k is crazy for a three year vet, especially in London. I know many University students from top schools who can't even find a job, let alone one that pays half that amount.
We are way over policed in Toronto, of course the propaganda will tell you crime is on the rise.
Then again bus drivers make almost the same amount.
We are way over policed in Toronto, of course the propaganda will tell you crime is on the rise.
Then again bus drivers make almost the same amount.
So you don't believe the facts/findings I see, nothing new for you. From the same report.
According to our 2010 data:
- Approximately 11% of the reports tracked this year involved US drug policies.
- 698 Law enforcement officers were involved in reported misconduct that involved drugs in some way.
- 343 of those law enforcement officers were criminally charged, convicted, or sentenced for those incidents.
- At least 7 lives were lost due to misconduct involving drug laws.
- At least $11,220,000 was spent in civil litigation due to drug law related police misconduct.
Likewise ~1000 others were convicted and sentenced on other charges .
That doesn't come anywhere close to 'almost no officers'.
Perhaps these unemployed grads should have applied to be a cop. I mean it's such a sweet deal. Compared to other N. American forces in comparable cites, Toronto doesn't have too many. How many officers do you think would be enough?
I think nottiboy mean Canadian cops are just as crooked as th US , just ours are not exposed, or prosecuted more. Thus we rank lower in corruption index but in fact we are so corrupt crooked cops often walk away with just slap on the wrist.
So it the old 'just my opinion, but I have no facts or findings to back it up' argument. Maybe Canadian cops are smarter and therefore don't get caught as often, really?
Considering he use think all drug cops were bent, he's certainly come down from that. That cops get lesser penalties when convicted is not in dispute now or ever, but juries do that all over the two countries. Blame the juries, people whom the police protect, not the laws or the courts.
Actually juries have no say on punishment, their role is only to make a finding of guilt.So it the old 'just my opinion, but I have no facts or findings to back it up' argument. Maybe Canadian cops are smarter and therefore don't get caught as often, really?
Considering he use think all drug cops were bent, he's certainly come down from that. That cops get lesser penalties when convicted is not in dispute now or ever, but juries do that all over the two countries. Blame the juries, people whom the police protect, not the laws or the courts.
I fully agree on this. I think most unions need to be cancelled dropped from most if the jobs. Doctors, firemen are the essential in my book. We have more than enough police men trying out to get into the force, there are more nurses looking for work than we need, that's why most work part-time and usually don't full benefits which I am against for due to their physical and mental well being for their work environment. But although we can debate that these people risk their lives, but they understand the basic requirements of these jobs, they can always find another job if they don't enjoy such a setting. The union makes them stay and use excuses of "mentality and physically distress" of these jobs that make the employers go to the union and strike. Teachers, and garbage men? Go dig a hole and shut up. The government should look into limited and restraining more public services such as Ontario works and maybe focus more on pension plans.
I understand that, so they might lean towards finding the police not guilty, or if given the option, guilty on a lesser charge with a lesser sanction.
Most cops are great, honest, hardworking folks BUT there are some who arent. A buddy is a cop....he told me that those in drug enforcement are the highest paid. i.e. $200K in cash found, $100K is reported. The difference is distributed with a strict code of silence. Are the perps going to say "we had more drug money than reported"?....
Not saying this happens EVERY time....but dont kid yourselves....it happens.
To stay on topic, people are arguing that TO cops should be the highest paid due to cost of living. It would be interesting to see how many DONT live in TO. I know 3 city cops personally and they all live in Durham. Now before someone says "why arent cops allowed to commute when others obviously do?"....I'm just saying people will naturally gravitate to affordable housing and CHOOSE to work where they do/can....
Not saying this happens EVERY time....but dont kid yourselves....it happens.
To stay on topic, people are arguing that TO cops should be the highest paid due to cost of living. It would be interesting to see how many DONT live in TO. I know 3 city cops personally and they all live in Durham. Now before someone says "why arent cops allowed to commute when others obviously do?"....I'm just saying people will naturally gravitate to affordable housing and CHOOSE to work where they do/can....
