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Apple Does NOT Recommend that Mac Users Install Anti-Virus Software

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Actually, they are still saying antivirus could be useful. Cnet quotes an Apple spokesperson saying:

"The Mac is designed with built-in technologies that provide protection against malicious software and security threats right out of the box. However, since no system can be 100 percent immune from every threat, running antivirus software may offer additional protection."
 
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danibbler said:
That's a far cry from recommending that users actually install (multiple) AV software.
Very true!
Heck then they would be no different than Windows!....:eek:
 

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"Apple encourages the widespread use of multiple antivirus utilities so that virus programmers have more than one application to circumvent, thus making the whole virus writing process more difficult."

You know you come off as 100% fanboy, right? They did but now they don't but they still should recommend some malware protection.
 

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Fanboys could be the biggest fag's out there. Hows that cut and paste on the iphone? WQhy do they only let you send an attachment as long as its an email? Apple is for the high school crowd...and fagboys.
 

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cypherpunk said:
They did but now they don't but they still should recommend some malware protection.
And you base your recommendation on what? I may come off as an Mac fanboy but at least I do have something to cheer about.
 

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In the laboratory.
This discussion is heating up. Might have to move it to the Religion forum.

jwm
 

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danibbler said:
So, a Mac hater and gaybasher? Good luck with that... :rolleyes:

Not a mac hater. Just hate the little Dinks that think mac's and apple are the bomb. Dame type of dork that thinks the iPhone is a Jesus phone. And because I called you a fag I'm a gaybasher? Yeah good luck with that sport.

I'm am going to guess you are also a spice girls fan too. Right?
 

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digdoo said:
And because I called you a fag I'm a gaybasher? Yeah good luck with that sport.
LOL! The first page of your most recent posts already show you to be a gaybasher. Why deny it?

Anyways, life is too short to waste on your sort...good luck.
 

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danibbler said:
And you base your recommendation on what? I may come off as an Mac fanboy but at least I do have something to cheer about.
Apple has a less than stellar track record of responding to serious vulnerabilities. Cheer all you want, but they act like Microsoft circa 2002 and that's not nearly good enough.
 

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cypherpunk said:
Apple has a less than stellar track record of responding to serious vulnerabilities. Cheer all you want, but they act like Microsoft circa 2002 and that's not nearly good enough.
Initially you said that they should recommend malware protection...now you're saying that they don't have a good track record of response. This is all pretty vague stuff...look, the original post was to correct the idea that Apple has recommended anti-virus software.

If you've got something else more specific then spit it out.
 

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danibbler said:
LOL! The first page of your most recent posts already show you to be a gaybasher. Why deny it?

Anyways, life is too short to waste on your sort...good luck.

If the saying "fanboys are gay" rings true then I guess I am.
 

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Wow ... fanboy hater .... sounds kind of messed either way u slice it.
I am an Apple System Engineer/Unix/Linux consultant... there is a tool for everything.... everything has its good and bad points.
I deal with so called fanboys and IT Guys that hate Apple "Products just because" ... both of u need to give your heads a shake nothing is perfect.
 

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canucklehead said:
Wow ... fanboy hater .... sounds kind of messed either way u slice it.
I am an Apple System Engineer/Unix/Linux consultant... there is a tool for everything.... everything has its good and bad points.
I deal with so called fanboys and IT Guys that hate Apple "Products just because" ... both of u need to give your heads a shake nothing is perfect.
I agree. I'm trained on Windows, Mac, Linux, and have some Free BSD experience, and I will say each OS has its strength and weakness.

The point is that Apple is constantly proclaiming its OS superiority, but has, in certain cases, the worst product. Earlier this year, the supposedly secure Airbook was cracked in record time (2 mins and change). My roommate bought an Apple screen to do photog stuff, turns out you have no way of adjusting resolution unless you own a Mac (he has a PC). Tiger still has occasional crashes. And the Iphone, with its inability to cut and paste, no MMS, no secure email, and mediocre phone quality should be relegated to the highschoolyard.
 

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danibbler said:
Initially you said that they should recommend malware protection...now you're saying that they don't have a good track record of response. This is all pretty vague stuff...look, the original post was to correct the idea that Apple has recommended anti-virus software.

If you've got something else more specific then spit it out.
I'm sorry. The problem is that you don't really follow Mac security or computer security in general. If you did, it would not have been vague at all. More here:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/03/28/apple-patches-patchy

Of course, this means that your arguments are more or less without credibility and I'm not keen on arguing about technology with lay folk. If in fact you are competent in matters of security but merely suffered a head injury, do let me know.
 

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cypherpunk said:
I'm sorry. The problem is that you don't really follow Mac security or computer security in general. If you did, it would not have been vague at all. More here:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/03/28/apple-patches-patchy
This isn't vague?

The boffins looked at how many times over the past six years the two vendors were able to have a patch available on the day a vulnerability became publicly known, which they call the zero-day patch rate. They then took this number and divided by their shoe size and discovered that there were 658 vulnerabilities affecting Microsoft products and 738 affecting Apple.

This might be OK if Apple ever bothered to patch them particularly fast. The boffins said that Apple was below 20 unpatched vulnerabilities at disclosure consistently before 2005 but these days Apple is always above that figure.

The net result is that the number of unpatched vulnerabilities are higher at Apple.
Divide by shoe size? Before 2005? What's the number after 2005?
 

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canucklehead said:
I deal with so called fanboys and IT Guys that hate Apple "Products just because" ... both of u need to give your heads a shake nothing is perfect.
If you think I'm a OS X fanboi then you've never truly dealt with any. :rolleyes:
 
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