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JohnLarue

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She's not my fave US Congressperson for sure. I think shes overrated on influence, gets way more credit than she's earned. A pissweak backbencher is what she'd be in oz. And I disagree w a lot of her policies
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So an idiot then

But she's doing proper legislation, using proper democratic methods, and with enthusiasm really trying to get things done that help people.
Learning procedures , following rules is hardley the hallmarks of anything above operationally competent.

not demonizing her opponents,
???

She has had hissy fit fights with two separate elected- politicians in less than two years

and honestly
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I do not think you understand the implications of how this nut views her moral viewpoint
I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.
If her moral view point dictates she is right, then the facts of the matter are irrelevant to her
That is as dishonest as it gets


I find it admirable, even if her policies are misguided
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It is her policies which can have an impact on peoples lives

She can defend them too, again, honest people can disagree with her. But she lays it out for discussion. Again, what she's proposing is mainstream in most of the world's democracies.
Not if she has not been prepped for the question ahead of time.

There is a reason she avoids open debate
If it is not pre-staged, she is a deer in the headlights


In contrast, MTG is doing performance art, waving her firearms and making veiled and not so veiled threats against people. Madison Cauthorn and Bobert doing the same - just own the libs. No need to put forth policy positions nor any meaningful legislation.
MTG does not make AOC any smarter


My problem is WHY THE FUCK is this grounds for this extraordinary, virulent, psychotic hatred of AOC? She's not asking for an ethno-state, nor turning USA into a dictatorship, nor banning the rich from voting, nor coddling dictators, nor profiting personally through conflicts of interest, etc.

Politics is a rough game
If you want to demand other people make massive changes to livelihoods and way of life, you had better be ready to face scrutiny and have your competencies examined carefully
Her intelligence is being examined and , it is clear, this is a dim bulb

The other is the dishonesty
If her moral view point dictates she is right, then the facts of the matter are irrelevant to her
That is as dishonest as it gets

I really do not like someone who intentionally and deliberately misleads others for politician gain

So i come back to why the hatred? Why the constant threats against her life
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No politician should be threatened with physical harm
Best be sure the allegations are real, AOC does have a flair for the dramatic
She feared for her life during the Capital Hill protests, despite being blocks away


Sure, I'd rather bone her than talk politics w her, or accept her positions (outside of CG and doggy lol) but the point is she can talk policy. MTG didn't understand HIPAA nor what a US Attorney General does nor how the rules work in the legislature, and spends her time making campaign ads showing her threatening AOC and the squad (btw, threatening their lives, not their careers or ideas).
again
MTG does not make AOC any smarter

I think people making honest efforts to help others should be tolerated.
If she was honest you might have an argument

Her "Green New Deal" could be paid for by increased taxes.... juts at the "Tippy Top"
Meanwhile it would decimate the economy and accomplish none of her ideological goals or impact the climate
Trying to backdoor socialism via climate change policy is about as dishonest as it gets


And done respectfully when we disagree. I try to be respectful to all of you whether I agree or disagree. I've done my time as a warrior, thus don't feel the need to be the keyboard kind. Yet AOC seems to draw the fire of the latter, and others on the right like she's a greater threat to civilisation than the Nazis or the Chinese or the Taliban. I'd think Putin or Xi or that fat kid running north korea (to quote the great John McCain) would deserve such vitriol, but they don't seem to get half of what AOC gets.
History is filled with examples of the human suffering cause by fools who acquired too much power
An election should not be about selecting the candidate who promises you the most while crossing their fingers
It should be about ensuring a fool is not given too much power
 

danmand

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BS. All of them are economic migrants seeking illegal entry and rob the racialized poor Americans of their jobs. It is why the Hispanics are turning Republican and why the Republicans are going to flip the Congress.
Something does not become right because you repeat over and over again. Try presenting arguments instead of repeating empty slogans.

They are legally seeking asylum in USA, following the rules by presenting themselves at the USA border. The proof of that is that the are welcomed by the border patrol and bussed to immigration processing sites.
 
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JohnLarue

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Again, the king daddy racist is back, LOL!
Playing the racist card when you lack intelligent counter arguments.?

You brought up border control not me. Still can't find where I ever stated anything about border control? You ignorantly tried to paint Mexican’s into your South American “hell hole” list of counties. I just corrected your ignorance to state they’re North American
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???
Still can find where you stated border control?
Not even when describe the racist bigot tried to build a wall to keep out Mexicans

You’re correct the racist bigot tried to build a wall to keep out Mexicans (who by the way are from North America) and who originally populated most of the southern states.
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Seems like every perspective that is different than yours is incorrect, hmmm.
Hardly , "the racist bigot tried to build a wall to keep mexicans out is kind of right in there with the term boarder contril

You forgot to add in your list as #3 capitalist countries slashing jobs, closing down factories and leaving middle America with only Walmart employment as they took their manufacturing to China all for bigger profits, lol. So, you place the blame on the fool politicians who are manipulated and controlled by corporations, lol. That's why no single ideology works! It’s a matter of finding the best of all worlds, thoughts, perspectives, etc. Again, I repeat, take some time to read my words before you write your idiotic responses.
Again you are quite free to emigrate to a non capitalist society if you find capitalism so repugnant

As you indignantly type away on the laptop brought to by capitalism in the comfort of the air conditioned room you are in (also brought to by capitalism)
Better take a break as it is close to dinner time. You know the food that was brought to you via the capitalist's system
Another warning for you: Be prepared for some mandatory weight loss should you choose Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea

That in addition to losing your right to express your strange views. Freedom of speech is likely something you can not survive without
 

JohnLarue

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Something does not become right because you repeat over and over again. Try presenting arguments instead of repeating empty slogans.

They are legally seeking asylum in USA, following the rules by presenting themselves at the USA border. The proof of that is that the are welcomed by the border patrol and bussed to immigration processing sites.
The real sad part is that you think you can fool anyone with that disingenuous pile of bovine scatology
 

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Wow. Wash, rinse, and repeat.
 
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Playing the racist card when you lack intelligent counter arguments.?

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Still can find where you stated border control?
Not even when describe the racist bigot tried to build a wall to keep out Mexicans



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Hardly , "the racist bigot tried to build a wall to keep mexicans out is kind of right in there with the term boarder contril


Again you are quite free to emigrate to a non capitalist society if you find capitalism so repugnant

As you indignantly type away on the laptop brought to by capitalism in the comfort of the air conditioned room you are in (also brought to by capitalism)
Better take a break as it is close to dinner time. You know the food that was brought to you via the capitalist's system
Another warning for you: Be prepared for some mandatory weight loss should you choose Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea

That in addition to losing your right to express your strange views. Freedom of speech is likely something you can not survive without
Damn your dense! I’d highly advise leaving the trailer park and living in a few different countries and continents before your time comes. Especially, before you begin telling others how or what is it is like to live in these other countries. Don’t think being stuck in the same spot your whole life warrants you any serious consideration when expressing how others should live or decide to live or what is best for them, lol. On a side note, do any of your responses come from any of your own hands-on experience or are you just repeating what you have read or been told on FOX News ?!
 

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BS. Reuters reported on June 25th over ONE MILLION arrests on the American southern border in fiscal year 2021. Pretty much all of them economic migrants. It is YOU who is spreading nonsense and misinformation.
You mean all those people who are fleeing cartel run countries like Guatemala and Honduras?

Sound like genuine refugees in my book. I wouldn't like to live in a country where cartels run my town. And they want to earn more money and have better jobs in the USA?..... That doesn't make them economic migrants if they are actually fleeing oppression.
 
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JohnLarue

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Damn your dense !
It is not my fault you lack the ability to make a logical argument and need to play the race card
It is not my fault you believe in an ideologue bimbo and the irrational , unachievable and very destructive lies she is peddling

I’d highly advise leaving the trailer park and living in a few different countries and continents before your time comes
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I would highly advise you learn some economics, finance and some ethics, Do not wait as a mind is a terrible thing to waste


Especially, before you begin telling others how or what is it is like to live in these other countries.
Oh so you have a much better understanding of why the average Venezuelan is losing weight and it is not due to food shortages?
You have a much better understanding of why the Cubans are protesting the on going repression of their freedoms ?
You have an an inside perspective of life in North Korea under a lunatic communist dictator? Odd how it is the one country in all of Asia which has no lights on @ night. (No electricity for the masses, yet they have a nuke program)
You have a better explanation why China's billionaires are communist party members who have enriched themselves via dirt cheap labor and brutal repressions of ethnic groups



Don’t think being stuck in the same spot your whole life warrants you any serious consideration when expressing how others should live or decide to live or what is best for them, lol
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That is pretty ironic as those countries already have repressive dictators deciding how the people should live, and sadly deciding some of their people do not get to live
Call me sentimental , however I am pretty sure the average Venezuelan might prefer not to be losing weight because of food shortages

On a side note, do any of your responses come from any of your own hands-on experience or are you just repeating what you have read or been told on FOX News ?!
I have experienced some weight lose in the pass due to exercise and and planned dietary changes, however I must admit I have never experience weight loss because of socialism
I will have to admit I have never experienced the loss of basic freedoms , although it does look like Justin Trudeau does want to control what I am able to post online

still whining about Capitalism despite enjoying one of the highest standards of living in history ?

 

JohnLarue

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You mean all those people who are fleeing cartel run countries like Guatemala and Honduras?
Yeah like there has never been any repression in Central America before, but suddenly all these people decide now is the time to leave


Sound like genuine refugees in my book. I wouldn't like to live in a country where cartels run my town. And they want to earn more money and have better jobs in the USA?..... That doesn't make them economic migrants if they are actually fleeing oppression.
The bimbo AOC makes headlines demanding ICE be abolished and promoting open boarders and then her party wins. And according to you that has absolutely nothing to do with millions showing up at the boarder
let then all in and relocate them to her district., i am sure she must have a plan to ensure they get settled

Odd how they choose to try to enter the USA, when supposedly there is an utopian socialist dream of Venezuela a short walk to the south
Oh that's right, they would have been trampled by the mass exodus moving north from that economic nightmare

They are economic refugees
It is truly amazing how you actually believe you could fool anyone with your political refugee argument

All countries need to have boarder control for a lot of reasons
 
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It is not my fault you lack the ability to make a logical argument and need to play the race card
It is not my fault you believe in an ideologue bimbo and the irrational , unachievable and very destructive lies she is peddling

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I would highly advise you learn some economics, finance and some ethics, Do not wait as a mind is a terrible thing to waste



Oh so you have a much better understanding of why the average Venezuelan is losing weight and it is not due to food shortages?
You have a much better understanding of why the Cubans are protesting the on going repression of their freedoms ?
You have an an inside perspective of life in North Korea under a lunatic communist dictator? Odd how it is the one country in all of Asia which has no lights on @ night. (No electricity for the masses, yet they have a nuke program)
You have a better explanation why China's billionaires are communist party members who have enriched themselves via dirt cheap labor and brutal repressions of ethnic groups



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That is pretty ironic as those countries already have repressive dictators deciding how the people should live, and sadly deciding some of their people do not get to live
Call me sentimental , however I am pretty sure the average Venezuelan might prefer not to be losing weight because of food shortages


I have experienced some weight lose in the pass due to exercise and and planned dietary changes, however I must admit I have never experience weight loss because of socialism
I will have to admit I have never experienced the loss of basic freedoms , although it does look like Justin Trudeau does want to control what I am able to post online

still whining about Capitalism despite enjoying one of the highest standards of living in history ?

No, incorrect, I call you racist because you are a racist! It's not a card it's a fact! Like I said before, get out, travel, and then tell people what it is like to live abroad or what is truly going on in your so called “shit hole” countries cause you have no clue. You just repeat everything you hear on the news! Your like a Arts Major talking about Physics, unqualified! Just so you’re clear, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark are all socialist countries. While Brazil, Ecuador and Colombia are all governed by right wing parties today. It’s funny how your fixated on AOC and border control. But when it comes to foreign countries meddling their power into sovereign nations you look the other way, lol. Look up “embargo” and “sanctions” and you’ll start to comprehend what is being done to the people in Cuba and Venezuela have minimal to do with their own leaders. Problem is you suck up all the propaganda and then repeat it, shows that as long as you repeat something over and over the morons believe it. Especially the ones who are in front of a tv and computer all day long…Adios loser!
 

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No, incorrect, I call you racist because you are a racist! It's not a card it's a fact! Like I said before, get out, travel, and then tell people what it is like to live abroad or what is truly going on in your so called “shit hole” countries cause you have no clue. You just repeat everything you hear on the news! Your like a Arts Major talking about Physics, unqualified! Just so you’re clear, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark are all socialist countries. While Brazil, Ecuador and Colombia are all governed by right wing parties today. It’s funny how your fixated on AOC and border control. But when it comes to foreign countries meddling their power into sovereign nations you look the other way, lol. Look up “embargo” and “sanctions” and you’ll start to comprehend what is being done to the people in Cuba and Venezuela have minimal to do with their own leaders. Problem is you suck up all the propaganda and then repeat it, shows that as long as you repeat something over and over the morons believe it. Especially the ones who are in front of a tv and computer all day long…Adios loser!
The Germans have a way to describe somebody like this: dumm geboren, nichts dazugelernt
 

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You mean all those people who are fleeing cartel run countries like Guatemala and Honduras?

Sound like genuine refugees in my book. I wouldn't like to live in a country where cartels run my town. And they want to earn more money and have better jobs in the USA?..... That doesn't make them economic migrants if they are actually fleeing oppression.
The right wingers just aren't very bright on this subject.
They'd rather build walls then deal with helping out the countries so people don't need to flee them.
Just like they get surprised when other people flee from countries like Guatemala after climate change destroys their livelihood.

 
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JohnLarue

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]No, incorrect, I call you racist because you are a racist!
you know nothing about me you sanctimonious moron

It's not a card it's a fact!
no actually its a judgement call and in this case its a judgement call by you, a fool with poor judgement


Like I said before, get out, travel, and then tell people what it is like to live abroad or what is truly going on in your so called “shit hole” countries cause you have no clue. You
yeah been done that
have you every been to Venezuela?


ust repeat everything you hear on the news!
So in your world Venezuelan are happy well fed and content?
So in your world cubans are not protesting out of despair?

Your like a Arts Major talking about Physics, unqualified!
well actually i would abstain from commenting on the arts , however i do know a thing or two about physics

Just so you’re clear, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark are all socialist countries.
Actually , the leader of Denmark was emphatic that his country was not socialist
Sweden went down that road in the 1970s and since moved to the right
it was very expensive last time i visited, did you have the same experience?



While Brazil, Ecuador and Colombia are all governed by right wing parties today.
after having experienced the failures of the left, funny how that works

It’s funny how your fixated on AOC and border control.
her stupidity does draw attention


But when it comes to foreign countries meddling their power into sovereign nations you look the other way, lol. Look up “embargo” and “sanctions” and you’ll start to comprehend what is being done to the people in Cuba and Venezuela have minimal to do with their own leaders. Problem is you suck up all the propaganda and then repeat it, shows that as long as you repeat something over and over the morons believe it. Especially the ones who are in front of a tv and computer all day long…
i am well aware of the usa past history meddling , odd how everyone still wants in despite that past

Adios loser!
i would recommend you do not sign your posts as 'loser', however that is your choice
 

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The right wingers just aren't very bright on this subject.
They'd rather build walls then deal with helping out the countries so people don't need to flee them.
Just like they get surprised when other people flee from countries like Guatemala after climate change destroys their livelihood.

USA does not have to help these countries in order for this to stop.

USA only has to leave these countries alone, and not interfere to install right wing regimes.
 
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