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Stay home, save lives: How Canada could avoid the worst of COVID-19
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-canada-social-distancing-1.5497789
Stay home, save lives: How Canada could avoid the worst of COVID-19


Now is the time for social distancing, before the disease gets 'completely out of control'


Kelly Crowe · CBC News · Posted: Mar 14, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 10 hours ago

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau practises social distancing while holding a news conference at Rideau Cottage in Ottawa on Friday.


Stay home. Do nothing. Save lives.

That might well end up being the story of how Canada conquered the terrible pandemic of 2020.

While Italy and other countries waited to act until cases were flooding hospitals, Canada has a chance to get out ahead of the COVID-19 crisis, according to the researchers who have been watching the coronavirus wreak deadly havoc around the world.

"We can't afford to wait until we see how bad it is," said Dr. David Fisman, a University of Toronto epidemiologist. "That just means that you've missed the boat."

But social distancing is one of the most challenging things many Canadians have ever been asked to do.

Up close, it's messy. As schools close and events are cancelled, it looks like a society in retreat.

But in fact, it's a society taking control of a situation — a country pulling together in a collective effort to head off disaster.

One Toronto critical care physician published an open letter Thursday warning that this is Canada's one brief chance to change the course of this epidemic.


"I simply want you to know that the COVID-19 situation is dire and may soon be completely out of control," wrote Dr. Michael Warner, the head of the ICU at the Michael Garron Hospital in Toronto.

He wrote a cri de coeur and sent it to 200 colleagues and his Twitter followers with the hope that it might reach people in time to make a difference.

"We have some time before the surge in patients hits Canada," he said. "At least one week or longer."

Canadians being urged to help 'flatten the curve' of COVID-19
Warner said he wrote it while he still had the time.

"Two weeks from now I'm going to be too busy to do anything but work."

His message is blunt:

Avoid all close contact with people unless necessary.
Never shake hands.
Cancel/avoid all travel.
"The only hope to slow the virus is based on community behaviour — that's you, your neighbour, your family…everyone," he wrote.

"The current risk to the individual remains low, but the risk to society is immeasurable. I implore you to follow these recommendations to slow the spread of the virus.

"Begin social distancing NOW — do not wait for a politician to tell you it is necessary."

'We have to shut this down'

Fisman, of U of T's Dalla Lana School of Public Health, said he almost shed tears of relief when he heard that Ontario announced Thursday it was closing its schools for three weeks.

He got the news while visiting some colleagues in an ICU, dreading the impending crisis and the risks that his friends could soon be facing.

"I feel a great sense of relief that we're starting to get it," he said, adding that Canada might just be learning from the mistakes made by other countries. "If you wait until things are bad, you've waited too long."

"We have to really shut this down in order not to have our health care system collapse in the way we're seeing in other countries. The time to do this is now."

Extreme measures: European governments pull out the stops to slow COVID-19
Fisman has been following the outbreak since early January, when the world first heard about a new coronavirus circulating in China. He calculates that the time to act is before critically ill patients start flooding hospitals.

He calculates the disease progression this way: It takes about five days (on average) from infection to first symptoms, and about seven more days for the infected person to get sick enough to see a doctor.

Add another three days at least before patients become critically ill and end up in the ICU.


Paramedics carry a hazardous medical waste box as patients lie on camping beds in one of the emergency structures that were set up to ease procedures at the Brescia hospital, northern Italy, on Thursday. (Luca Bruno/The Associated Press)
Italy learned the hard way, waiting for those first ICU cases before testing for the coronavirus and then shutting down the country. Now horrific stories about overwhelmed hospitals are shocking Canadians into action.

Warner said the stories coming out of Italy prompted his letter.

"Patients are dying. Resources are being rationed. Non-COVID patients with treatable disease are not getting treated," he said. "I'm not scared of disease and getting sick. I'm scared of not being able to help people."

'Hell demon of a virus'

Other lessons Canada still has time to learn: the coronavirus loves a crowd. Church groups, cruises, large medical conferences — all have seeded outbreaks.

"That's how this hell demon of a virus operates," said Fisman. "I think we have time because we're not in the soup yet."

Canada's cases are growing, but so far hospitals are not yet reporting large numbers of critically ill patients.

'They have changed the course of this outbreak:' Revelations from handling of coronavirus in China
That's why the country is in the midst of a surreal and unprecedented experience of watching major sporting events cancelled, jury trials postponed, theatres postponing performances and social events disappearing from the calendar one by one.

"None of us has lived through a time like this," said Fisman, who said the closest comparison is probably the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. And studies of that experience can also guide behaviour now.



One 2007 study comparing Spanish flu in two U.S. cities is suddenly getting wide circulation.




A little over one hundred years ago, during the Spanish flu, Philadelphia held a massive parade across the city – ignoring warnings from health officials of a virus outbreak. Three days later, thousands were infected, and in a few short days, 4,500 were dead. It was a different story in St. Louis, just 900 miles away, where local officials listened to health experts and told people to keep their distance from one another and avoid public places.




Philadelphia allowed a large parade to happen even though the city already had cases of the Spanish flu. St Louis imposed social distancing within three days of the first cases, dramatically reducing the city's death rate.



Is it all an over-reaction? That's something that will only be decided in hindsight.


ANALYSIS
In 2003, Canada failed the pandemic test. Here's what we've learned since
"I think only retrospectively will we know if it was the right time, but I think we have to use science to guide us," said Warner. "We have enough science from China and Italy to inform us of what appropriate decisions to make."


If the social distancing experiment works, and Canada slows the viral spread, the experts say the skeptics might have the last laugh after all.

Fisman hopes the people who call this an over-reaction will be able to gloat in six months.

Because that will mean Canada successfully dodged the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic of 2020.
 
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I know a 20 year old is a man . But that what the exact wording of the Italian Doctor said in the video. I am quoting what the doctor said in the video.

How old are you? Don't think you are invincible!! Just saying there are 161 strain of cov-16 !! There were only 1 strain of H1N1 ! When more data come in from Italy then from France's and Germany and finally from USA. We will get the real picture not the phoney data from China. If a 20 year old man start to need a ICU bed don't think you by some unlucky chance you happen to need a ICU bed also.


PS Go to video 7:36 hopefully you will understand why this is more deadly then H1N1 it spread faster then H1N1 and you can spread it with out showing any symptoms also.
I'm in the "dying" demographic. Am I concerned, yes? Am I scared, absolutely not! I weather sickness and injuries well and I fully expect to survive, if infected. Actually, I went through a pretty nasty flue just this January. The Italian guy- who knows? Maybe he had a bad reaction, infection or some other underlying problem. Maybe he had a bad fettuccine alfredo, the day before. There's still a lot we don't know, but panic and overreacting will get us nowhere. Right now, as it stands, this is not as serious as the N1H1. We certainly didn't shut down the world, then. A little discipline, vigilance and some plain common sense will see us through this with no major problems.
 

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Yes, for most this will be just like dealing with a seasonal flu.
Yes, the media (and 24/7/365 social media feeds) have somewhat hyped this up to some degree.

HOWEVER, tell Italy (and soon to be Spain and Germany) this is being overblown.

What y'all are forgetting is the bubble. IF we or any country (see Italy) sees an exponential growth in cases (which is what happens when you get community spread that goes unchecked), our already stretched healthcare system will buckle under the weight of too many patients needing serious interventions (respirators) that cannot be helped due to lack of beds or equipment. Doctors in Italy are now having to make life and death decisions based on those parameters. Not that they can't be saved and healed, but simply because they're aren't enough resources to deal with everyone.

So, stop being so fucking selfish. Being asked to be inconvenienced for a few weeks in order to help those in higher risk groups (including our healthcare workers who if overloaded run the risk of becoming infected themselves). This is about being a decent human being as part of a larger society, for the greater good. It isn't about "oh, my RRSP just dropped 15% over the past two weeks". Yes, we'll all die at some point. Yes, you're probably more likely to die falling in your shower or in a car accident than from Covid-19. But if we can slow the spread down, people will be saved. Why have people die needlessly, when it can be managed?

Stop being so selfish, self-centered and narcissistic. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU AND YOU ALONE.
Well said. It’s not about getting it’s about not spreading. Let’s flatten the curve.
 

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I'm in the "dying" demographic. Am I concerned, yes? Am I scared, absolutely not! I weather sickness and injuries well and I fully expect to survive, if infected. Actually, I went through a pretty nasty flue just this January. The Italian guy- who knows? Maybe he had a bad reaction, infection or some other underlying problem. Maybe he had a bad fettuccine alfredo, the day before. There's still a lot we don't know, but panic and overreacting will get us nowhere. Right now, as it stands, this is not as serious as the N1H1. We certainly didn't shut down the world, then. A little discipline, vigilance and some plain common sense will see us through this with no major problems.

Stay home, save lives: How Canada could avoid the worst of COVID-19
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-canada-social-distancing-1.5497789
Stay home, save lives: How Canada could avoid the worst of COVID-19


Now is the time for social distancing, before the disease gets 'completely out of control'


Kelly Crowe · CBC News · Posted: Mar 14, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 10 hours ago

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau practises social distancing while holding a news conference at Rideau Cottage in Ottawa on Friday.


Stay home. Do nothing. Save lives.

That might well end up being the story of how Canada conquered the terrible pandemic of 2020.

While Italy and other countries waited to act until cases were flooding hospitals, Canada has a chance to get out ahead of the COVID-19 crisis, according to the researchers who have been watching the coronavirus wreak deadly havoc around the world.

"We can't afford to wait until we see how bad it is," said Dr. David Fisman, a University of Toronto epidemiologist. "That just means that you've missed the boat."

But social distancing is one of the most challenging things many Canadians have ever been asked to do.

Up close, it's messy. As schools close and events are cancelled, it looks like a society in retreat.

But in fact, it's a society taking control of a situation — a country pulling together in a collective effort to head off disaster.

One Toronto critical care physician published an open letter Thursday warning that this is Canada's one brief chance to change the course of this epidemic.


"I simply want you to know that the COVID-19 situation is dire and may soon be completely out of control," wrote Dr. Michael Warner, the head of the ICU at the Michael Garron Hospital in Toronto.

He wrote a cri de coeur and sent it to 200 colleagues and his Twitter followers with the hope that it might reach people in time to make a difference.

"We have some time before the surge in patients hits Canada," he said. "At least one week or longer."

Canadians being urged to help 'flatten the curve' of COVID-19
Warner said he wrote it while he still had the time.

"Two weeks from now I'm going to be too busy to do anything but work."

His message is blunt:

Avoid all close contact with people unless necessary.
Never shake hands.
Cancel/avoid all travel.
"The only hope to slow the virus is based on community behaviour — that's you, your neighbour, your family…everyone," he wrote.

"The current risk to the individual remains low, but the risk to society is immeasurable. I implore you to follow these recommendations to slow the spread of the virus.

"Begin social distancing NOW — do not wait for a politician to tell you it is necessary."

'We have to shut this down'

Fisman, of U of T's Dalla Lana School of Public Health, said he almost shed tears of relief when he heard that Ontario announced Thursday it was closing its schools for three weeks.

He got the news while visiting some colleagues in an ICU, dreading the impending crisis and the risks that his friends could soon be facing.

"I feel a great sense of relief that we're starting to get it," he said, adding that Canada might just be learning from the mistakes made by other countries. "If you wait until things are bad, you've waited too long."

"We have to really shut this down in order not to have our health care system collapse in the way we're seeing in other countries. The time to do this is now."

Extreme measures: European governments pull out the stops to slow COVID-19
Fisman has been following the outbreak since early January, when the world first heard about a new coronavirus circulating in China. He calculates that the time to act is before critically ill patients start flooding hospitals.

He calculates the disease progression this way: It takes about five days (on average) from infection to first symptoms, and about seven more days for the infected person to get sick enough to see a doctor.

Add another three days at least before patients become critically ill and end up in the ICU.


Paramedics carry a hazardous medical waste box as patients lie on camping beds in one of the emergency structures that were set up to ease procedures at the Brescia hospital, northern Italy, on Thursday. (Luca Bruno/The Associated Press)
Italy learned the hard way, waiting for those first ICU cases before testing for the coronavirus and then shutting down the country. Now horrific stories about overwhelmed hospitals are shocking Canadians into action.

Warner said the stories coming out of Italy prompted his letter.

"Patients are dying. Resources are being rationed. Non-COVID patients with treatable disease are not getting treated," he said. "I'm not scared of disease and getting sick. I'm scared of not being able to help people."

'Hell demon of a virus'

Other lessons Canada still has time to learn: the coronavirus loves a crowd. Church groups, cruises, large medical conferences — all have seeded outbreaks.

"That's how this hell demon of a virus operates," said Fisman. "I think we have time because we're not in the soup yet."

Canada's cases are growing, but so far hospitals are not yet reporting large numbers of critically ill patients.

'They have changed the course of this outbreak:' Revelations from handling of coronavirus in China
That's why the country is in the midst of a surreal and unprecedented experience of watching major sporting events cancelled, jury trials postponed, theatres postponing performances and social events disappearing from the calendar one by one.

"None of us has lived through a time like this," said Fisman, who said the closest comparison is probably the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. And studies of that experience can also guide behaviour now.



One 2007 study comparing Spanish flu in two U.S. cities is suddenly getting wide circulation.




A little over one hundred years ago, during the Spanish flu, Philadelphia held a massive parade across the city – ignoring warnings from health officials of a virus outbreak. Three days later, thousands were infected, and in a few short days, 4,500 were dead. It was a different story in St. Louis, just 900 miles away, where local officials listened to health experts and told people to keep their distance from one another and avoid public places.




Philadelphia allowed a large parade to happen even though the city already had cases of the Spanish flu. St Louis imposed social distancing within three days of the first cases, dramatically reducing the city's death rate.



Is it all an over-reaction? That's something that will only be decided in hindsight.


ANALYSIS
In 2003, Canada failed the pandemic test. Here's what we've learned since
"I think only retrospectively will we know if it was the right time, but I think we have to use science to guide us," said Warner. "We have enough science from China and Italy to inform us of what appropriate decisions to make."


If the social distancing experiment works, and Canada slows the viral spread, the experts say the skeptics might have the last laugh after all.

Fisman hopes the people who call this an over-reaction will be able to gloat in six months.

Because that will mean Canada successfully dodged the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic of 2020.
 

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Some of us have older people in our lives with severe lung issues who would not survive. Ignoring the fact that this is a highly communicable virus is selfish and ignorant. Whatever your conspiracy theories are, it is a real virus and it is here.

Asking people to socially distance and be responsible is not "over blowing" anything or reacting to fear mongering. All people are asking is that you wash your hands.
A few questions for the people blaming the media.

1)Did the media influence the W.H.O. who collects and assesses the worldwide data. Did the media influence them to not be objective in their research and that is why the W.H.O. declared it a pandemic? The W.H.O. has an agenda?Or maybe, just maybe we should believe what they are telling us.

2)Did the media influence cause there to be enough sick people in Italy, China etc. to overload their systems and their capacity to treat patients and potentially have to make choices as to who to treat and who does not get treatment?

3)Did the media influence the trump administration to be unprepared for adequate testing and manpower. Did media influence cause trump to fire the pandemic team so that there is no cohesive team of experts?

To all the conspiracy idiots, these things happen because people around the world are getting sick at an increasing rate. It has nothing to do with the media, in general. They are reporting what's happening and keeping us as informed as possible.

IDIOTS.
 

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A few questions for the people blaming the media.

1)Did the media influence the W.H.O. who collects and assesses the worldwide data. Did the media influence them to not be objective in their research and that is why the W.H.O. declared it a pandemic? The W.H.O. has an agenda?Or maybe, just maybe we should believe what they are telling us.

2)Did the media influence cause there to be enough sick people in Italy, China etc. to overload their systems and their capacity to treat patients and potentially have to make choices as to who to treat and who does not get treatment?

3)Did the media influence the trump administration to be unprepared for adequate testing and manpower. Did media influence cause trump to fire the pandemic team so that there is no cohesive team of experts?

To all the conspiracy idiots, these things happen because people around the world are getting sick at an increasing rate. It has nothing to do with the media, in general. They are reporting what's happening and keeping us as informed as possible.

IDIOTS.
Idiots are those who accept the overblown tabloid news sources (see youtube link above trying to be passed off as a "doctor")

#1 - the media very much DID influence people around the globe (look how many even Canadian news sources were anti-Coro as recently as Jan 2020)
And the WHO then tries to appease those people to remain relevant.

#2 - how could the Coro "overload" their health systems? Explain this to me. Its a flu. Period. Unless you are 65+ or have a compromised immune system (HIV etc) the treatment is go home and stay in bed for a few weeks. The only thing I can even think of is these rural areas are letting homeless people stay in hospital or something

#3 - Trump (USA) is doing just fine. To the contrary the US system is doing better than the Canadian one so...
Also note the Trump fired pandemic team is an internet myth (there was a restructure back in 2018 but you would need to be living under a rock to not see all the changes Trump made to Obama health care systems)
The "team" actually refers to a single person (lol) by the name of a single politician
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/

They did not even cut funding, they just got the money from an alternate source in the end
Source: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/false-claim-about-cdcs-global-anti-pandemic-work/
 

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Idiots are those who accept the overblown tabloid news sources (see youtube link above trying to be passed off as a "doctor")

#1 - the media very much DID influence people around the globe (look how many even Canadian news sources were anti-Coro as recently as Jan 2020)
And the WHO then tries to appease those people to remain relevant.

#2 - how could the Coro "overload" their health systems? Explain this to me. Its a flu. Period. Unless you are 65+ or have a compromised immune system (HIV etc) the treatment is go home and stay in bed for a few weeks. The only thing I can even think of is these rural areas are letting homeless people stay in hospital or something

#3 - Trump (USA) is doing just fine. To the contrary the US system is doing better than the Canadian one so...
Also note the Trump fired pandemic team is an internet myth (there was a restructure back in 2018 but you would need to be living under a rock to not see all the changes Trump made to Obama health care systems)
The "team" actually refers to a single person (lol) by the name of a single politician
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/

They did not even cut funding, they just got the money from an alternate source in the end
Source: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/false-claim-about-cdcs-global-anti-pandemic-work/
Look around the world as to what is actually happening to real people and real businesses and people's way of life. It will address all your points. You just have to be willing to open your eyes.
 

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Yes, for most this will be just like dealing with a seasonal flu.
Yes, the media (and 24/7/365 social media feeds) have somewhat hyped this up to some degree.

HOWEVER, tell Italy (and soon to be Spain and Germany) this is being overblown.

What y'all are forgetting is the bubble. IF we or any country (see Italy) sees an exponential growth in cases (which is what happens when you get community spread that goes unchecked), our already stretched healthcare system will buckle under the weight of too many patients needing serious interventions (respirators) that cannot be helped due to lack of beds or equipment. Doctors in Italy are now having to make life and death decisions based on those parameters. Not that they can't be saved and healed, but simply because they're aren't enough resources to deal with everyone.

So, stop being so fucking selfish. Being asked to be inconvenienced for a few weeks in order to help those in higher risk groups (including our healthcare workers who if overloaded run the risk of becoming infected themselves). This is about being a decent human being as part of a larger society, for the greater good. It isn't about "oh, my RRSP just dropped 15% over the past two weeks". Yes, we'll all die at some point. Yes, you're probably more likely to die falling in your shower or in a car accident than from Covid-19. But if we can slow the spread down, people will be saved. Why have people die needlessly, when it can be managed?

Stop being so selfish, self-centered and narcissistic. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU AND YOU ALONE.
Here’s a simpler solution...instead of putting fear into the whole public & killing the economy let’s isolate the problem...the at risk! Put the baby boomers in self isolation & the others at risk, not saying this to be a smart ass but there the ones it affects. The majority have put a lot of sweat equity into building this country & they should be taken care of. All the useless facks collecting welfare could be delivering their groceries, prescriptions, give a ride to essential doctors appt, shovel the driveway, put the garbage out etc. Well with the libtards in power that bill isn’t going to get passed anytime soon but most seniors have some family or friends that could assist with this. And yes the boomers are traveling more than ever, so no non essential travel & retirement homes absolutely no visitors.

After reading about the Philadelphia parade I was quite shocked...ya gotta limit the large gatherings & non essential group meetings. But a little common sense on everyone’s part & vigilant hygiene will survive the “pandemic” & life will go on like after sars, mers, H1N1. I wouldn’t bet my left one but I’ll bet anyone a bj it doesn’t get anywhere close to the average flu mortality we have every year.

Everybody take a deep breath & say we can get through this!
 

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Everybody take a deep breath & say we can get through this!
1. There is absolutely no leadership in this country. Time of crisis and what do we get? Meh.

2. Every person for themselves. That is the correct thing to do. After all, the government is not going to do anything.

3. This does not mean we should be looting or killing each other. Be polite, be a true a Canadian. Fucking government. Useless. Have faith in the people. The people will help each other out.

4. Patience. There is no other option.

:yo:
 

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Look around the world as to what is actually happening to real people and real businesses and people's way of life. It will address all your points. You just have to be willing to open your eyes.
Yeah exactly
Its already over in many countries (eg check out Macau which had massive outbreak and its on borders with China)

MACAU has now ZERO CASE of Corona Virus. All 10 patients are discharged. ������
How Macau handles the Corona Virus?
1. Lockdown
2. Hotels, Restaurants, Shops, Offices, Banks,
Parks and Schools are totally closed.
3. No people are allowed to go outside.
4. Limited bus schedule. People walk to
avoid crowded places.
5. Proper distribution of masks. 10pcs. per
person (after 10 days you can buy another
10pcs.)
6. Every hour they announce the status of the
virus all over the place.
7. Every building and street they have staff
checking your body temp.
8. They have an online health declaration.
9. All the borders are closed.
10. The people are respecting the government
and follow the rules.
The issue is NOT how rich they are,
its not the budget, its not the population.
It’s because they are ALL COOPERATIVE, OBEDIENT and DISCIPLINED.
At walang "maraming marunong" na kumontra dahil TANGGAP nila na wala silang kontrol sa sitwasyon.
SANA ALL
 

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Idiots are those who accept the overblown tabloid news sources (see youtube link above trying to be passed off as a "doctor")

#2 - how could the Coro "overload" their health systems? Explain this to me. Its a flu. Period. Unless you are 65+ or have a compromised immune system (HIV etc) the treatment is go home and stay in bed for a few weeks. The only thing I can even think of is these rural areas are letting homeless people stay in hospital or something
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A hard flu season will already fill hospitals to overflow.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3982983/hospitals-flu-overcrowding-greater-toronto-area/
 

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Canadian Stats (as of today, Sunday)

ON Cases 142
CA Cases 288

Age 60+ Cases 84
Required Hospitalization 34
Died 1
Cases of Travelers Returning 228
Cases Close Friends / Relatives of Travelers 23

So again this is super minor and anyone freaking out or hoarding is an idiot

There were 39 new cases of COVID-19 reported in Ontario Sunday, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 142. Of that 142, five cases are deemed resolved by Ontario Public Health.

Nationally, using the latest figures from Public Health Canada, the number of cases stands at 288 positive cases and 4 probable cases once the new Ontario numbers are added in.
 

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Canadian Stats (as of today, Sunday)

ON Cases 142
CA Cases 288

Age 60+ Cases 84
Required Hospitalization 34
Died 1
Cases of Travelers Returning 228
Cases Close Friends / Relatives of Travelers 23

So again this is super minor and anyone freaking out or hoarding is an idiot

There were 39 new cases of COVID-19 reported in Ontario Sunday, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 142. Of that 142, five cases are deemed resolved by Ontario Public Health.

Nationally, using the latest figures from Public Health Canada, the number of cases stands at 288 positive cases and 4 probable cases once the new Ontario numbers are added in.
Are media reporting different numbers for Canada that you posted? Are they reporting inaccurate numbers in other countries? I assume not. So if they are reporting accurate info, why are they responsible for the way people panic? We see trivial stuff that causes hysteria/overreaction all the time. It seems to be human nature to overreact.

It is their job to keep us informed which, from what I can see, they are doing.
 

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It's hysteria
 

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There is way too much emphasis by the media and putting way too much fear into everyone.

I saw my doctor for normal check up and he put me at ease, and said more die of the flu and we have to live our life's.
Also its true its more for the older with low immune system and respiratory problems. This will go away and we have to carry on.
Just be a little more careful in washing hands in public places.

On this note, I will continue to see my ladies.
 

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COVID-19 is primarily affecting the elderly may be greatly exaggerated....Not Just Seniors: French Doctors Report 50% Of ICU Patients Under 60 Years Old, Netherlands Under 50

It's beginning to look like someone's lying ( China & and also "MainstreamMedia") as both French and Dutch medical professionals are reporting that half of coronavirus ICU patients are under the age of 60 and 50-years-old respectively.



"MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60," tweeted The Atlantic's Rachel Donadio on Saturday.


Rachel Donadio
✔
@RachelDonadio
CX: FRANCE NOW PUSHING EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restos, cafés, non-essential stores closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60; France has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said head of French health service. Replaces:
https://twitter.com/RachelDonadio/s...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under

Meanwhile in the Netherlands, over half are reportedly under 50 years old.

"Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site." -AD.nl



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Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old


On Saturday, AD documented the case of a 16-year-old boy with no disclosed underlying conditions who wound up in the ICU after complaining of nausea and headaches. He is currently on ventilation in a medically-induced coma.





https://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavir...patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under


"As long as he can't breathe properly himself, they keep him artificially asleep," said his 24-yaer-old brother Babor.







The reports suggest that COVID-19 is more than just a "boomer remover" - a phrase made popular by younger generations who think they're invincible.

Considering that US hospitals are projected to be completely full come mid-May, the implications of the coronavirus impacting more than just the elderly are significant.


The new reports of younger ICU patients echo unconfirmed accounts from Italian doctors:



In which case, reports that COVID-19 is primarily affecting the elderly may be greatly exaggerated.
 

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Canadian Stats (as of today, Sunday)

ON Cases 142
CA Cases 288

Age 60+ Cases 84
Required Hospitalization 34
Died 1
Cases of Travelers Returning 228
Cases Close Friends / Relatives of Travelers 23

So again this is super minor and anyone freaking out or hoarding is an idiot

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It is backwards looking ignorant people like you that makes me sure Ontario will be in trouble.

Three weeks ago, Italy had 3 confirmed cases. Three cases. Overrun in three weeks. In a medical system generally regarded as superior to the one we have

I am not advocating people should hoard, but to call this super minor is fucking ignorant
 

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There is way too much emphasis by the media and putting way too much fear into everyone.

I saw my doctor for normal check up and he put me at ease, and said more die of the flu and we have to live our life's.
Also its true its more for the older with low immune system and respiratory problems. This will go away and we have to carry on.
Just be a little more careful in washing hands in public places.

On this note, I will continue to see my ladies.
Well said Larry!! I've been saying this for weeks now. The Influenza kills more then 50 million a year since 2010. Why isn't that a problem. 900 people did last week in California with the Influenza flu not a word said abt it.

If your older over 70+ with auto immune issues you should be careful stay out of large groups other then that live your life normal people.

My doc told me to stay away from large groups of 100 or more. I guess that means I can continue to seduce gents like I normally enjoy doing haha.

Happy Hobbying Everyone muah xx
 

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Well said Larry!! I've been saying this for weeks now. The Influenza kills more then 50 million a year since 2010. Why isn't that a problem. 900 people did last week in California with the Influenza flu not a word said abt it.

If your older over 70+ with auto immune issues you should be careful stay out of large groups other then that live your life normal people.

My doc told me to stay away from large groups of 100 or more. I guess that means I can continue to seduce gents like I normally enjoy doing haha.

Happy Hobbying Everyone muah xx
Covid19 is ten times more deadly than influenza, and it’s long term effects are unknown. That’s why.
 
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