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xmontrealer said:
Considering it started right after Oct. 7, before Israel had even started its retaliation, I have a feeling it's repressed antisemitism finding a convenient escape valve...

York and TMU have been hotbeds of antisemitism for years.
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No it didn't start on Oct 7, it has been going on for decades...stories should not be told from the middle but right from the beginning.
 
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NP View: No truth behind claim that Israel is committing genocide (msn.com)


School is supposed to be a place where children go to learn life skills and facts about the world around them. But as reported in Thursday’s National Post , a disturbing number of school principals and faculty have been spreading blatant mistruths about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including the biggest lie of all: that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people.


On Nov. 12, a high school principal in Brampton, Ont., landed in hot water for claiming there was an “Israel-led genocide in Palestine.” But it turns out this was just the tip of the iceberg.

A former teacher at another Brampton school told the Post that her principal’s Twitter feed, which was displayed on a screen in the school’s foyer, has been accusing Israel of committing genocide for the past year. And after Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack, the principal publicly called for people to “stand collectively against the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.”

The “genocide” accusation has also been levelled by a group of Democrat s in the U.S., numerous United Nations officials , climate activist Greta Thunberg , a host of academics , along with many others. And it has become a staple of pro-Palestinian rallies. The only problem is that it has no basis in fact.


The UN defines genocide as “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,” including systematic killing, imposing conditions designed to “bring about (the group’s) physical destruction” and “imposing measures intended to prevent births.”

Commonly recognized genocides are readily apparent when looking at population estimates. There were over 16.7-million Jews globally in 1939, but by the end of the Holocaust in 1945, that number had dropped to 11 million. Likewise, Rwanda was home to 7.9-million people in 1993, but by 1995, fewer than 5.7 million remained.

The Palestinian territories, by comparison, have witnessed a population boom since they fell under Israeli control in the Six-Day War .


According to the UN , in 1967, there were 1.1-million Palestinians living in the territories. The latest Palestinian census , conducted by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics in 2017, showed a combined population in Gaza and the West Bank of nearly 4.8 million, excluding Jewish settlements. Today, that number has risen to over 5.3 million, according to UN data.

Clearly, there has been no systematic elimination of the Palestinian people. Nor has there been any attempt to control birth rates: in the West Bank , women have an average of 3.54 children; in Gaza , 3.38. This is a higher fertility rate than in Israel (2.94) and more than twice as high as Canada (1.57).


Even if the anti-Israel crowd was referring to “cultural genocide,” there would be no evidence to support it.

The population of the West Bank, including the Israeli settlements, is estimated to be 80-85 per cent Muslim; in Gaza, Islam is practised by around 99 per cent of the population. And schools in both territories are well known for indoctrinating children with anti-Israel and antisemitic propaganda. This is hardly a population being forcibly assimilated. Israel doesn’t even control the territories.

There’s no question that the Hamas fighters who streamed into Israel on Oct. 7 intended to kill or capture as many Israeli civilians as they could. The Israel Defence Forces (IDF), in contrast, have taken active steps to minimize civilian casualties.

At the start of the war, Israel warned civilians to evacuate northern Gaza. It dropped leaflets, placed phone calls and sent text messages ahead of air strikes and ground offensives. It opened humanitarian corridors so Gazans could move south in safety, and initiated daily four-hour humanitarian pauses so people could gather supplies or travel to safer areas.


Again, these are not the types of actions Israel would take if it were attempting a genocide. That doesn’t mean the death toll hasn’t been high, though.

Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry claims that 16,000 Palestinians have died since the start of the war, which is almost certainly inflated and doesn’t distinguish between civilian and terrorist deaths. Nevertheless, IDF officials have privately told reporters that around 5,000 Hamas fighters have been killed in action and that the civilian casualty ratio is around 2:1 (two civilians killed for each combatant), which would mean that around 10,000 civilians have lost their lives.

This is undoubtedly higher than anyone would like, but the ratio is similar to many other wars — including the Korean and Vietnam wars — and far lower than the Chechen wars and NATO’s offensive in Yugoslavia. Nevertheless, Israeli officials have expressed hope that the civilian casualty ratio “will be much lower” during the current phase of the conflict.

To ensure that happens, the IDF created a map that splits Gaza into over 600 small zones, and is using traditional surveillance systems combined with cell phone data and artificial intelligence to track population movements in real time and inform civilians about the precise areas that are about to be hit, and where they can go to be safe.

Rather than committing genocide, Israel is implementing novel and innovative solutions to protect innocent lives. Hamas, on the other hand, has been firing rockets out of zones Israel has designated as safe — inviting the IDF to retaliate so Hamas can claim more civilian casualties.

The false accusation of “genocide” against Jews isn’t a matter of misunderstanding, of course. Accusing the people who suffered the most systematized genocide ever recorded of committing the same crimes they suffered from is not only meant to wound them, but to erase their history. It erodes the magnitude of true genocide, specifically the Holocaust, which was the ultimate justification for world support for the creation of Israel.

It’s one thing for the antisemites who attend pro-Palestinian rallies to lie about what’s happening in Gaza. It’s quite another when those tasked with educating future generations of Canadians are perpetuating lies that have no basis in fact and are clearly intended to incite hatred against Israelis and their Jewish neighbours here in Canada.

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Who gave you permission to use facts? That is vile and despicable and proves that you are calling for the genocide of all Palestinians.

See, fringie? I'm helping you spread the message.
 
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Kusa said:
No it didn't start on Oct 7, it has been going on for decades...
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Terror attacks by different groups of Palestinian extremists?

I remember Munich 1972. 5 decades ago.

Thank you for helping us remember how long Palestinian terror groups have been a scourge on the world.
 
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niniveh said:
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A teacher wrote a Palestinian rallying cry in her email. She’s on leave.
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By Nicole Asbury
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A Montgomery County teacher was placed on administrative leave for writing, “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” in her school email signature. (Bonnie Jo Mount/The Washington Post)
A Maryland schools employee says officials discriminated against her by placing her on administrative leave for writing, “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” in her school email signature.
Hajur El-Haggan said in a complaint filed to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission this week that other employees at Argyle Middle School in Silver Spring, Md., similarly have expressed support for political and social causes through their email signatures but that she was the only employee known to face disciplinary action.
The phrase, “From the river to the sea,” is a decades-old rallying cry for Palestinian nationalist aspirations, but it is also interpreted by some as a call to eradicate Israel. The phrase refers to a territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, which includes the state of Israel — as well as the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza. Pro-Israel and other allied groups argue the phrase is antisemitic, suggesting the abolition of the Jewish state during a time of rising antisemitism.

This is an excerpt from a full story.
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It's an anti Semitic cry to eradicate Israel.
 
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wigglee said:
This is like curing head lice by burning the patient to death. It is genocide and shows that "never again" only refers to Jews.

I'm no military expert but I know genocide when I see it.
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So when you were talking about “surgical” operations against hamas you were talking out of your ass.

Now, if your patient developed a gangrene and is going through an amputation some good flesh and bone would necessarily have to go with the bad.
Please don’t pretend to be an expert on how much of the good flesh has to go. Just trust the surgeon.
 
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Frankfooter said:
The National Post?

How about the Center for Constitutional Rights?
ccrjustice.org

Palestinians Will End Israel’s Genocide

Palestinians Will End Israel’s Genocide and Reshape the WorldThe U.S.
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You keep ignoring the blocking of food and water as being the clearest intent towards genocide.
“In the present case, there is much direct evidence in the form of statements by senior officials and politicians in Israel indicating an intent to destroy the people of Palestine. Furthermore, the conduct of the State of Israel provides evidence from which genocidal intent may be inferred. The avowed policy of depriving Gaza of water, food, medicine and electricity, bearing in mind the rather desperate economic situation in the territory prior to the conflict and the fact that the borders are sealed, leaving the people of Gaza with nowhere to go, will inexorably lead to their physical destruction. If the siege and blockade continue, there can be no other outcome.”
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The fact that you find a website that repeats bullshit doesn't make that bullshit non-bullshit, Frankie.
 
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Frankfooter said:
No it isn't.

According to the Convention, genocide is a crime that can take place both in time of war as well as in time of peace. The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.
Nor is there a safe place, from a poll 2 weeks ago while things have only gotten worse.

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Those look like dead combatants, Frankie.

You missed the main point of my previous post, which is that entire villages and groups of people - including women and children - are rounded up and deliberately and indiscriminately killed. That is NOT what is happening in Gaza.

You must spend fucking hours looking up your sad attempts and posting them.
 
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mandrill said:
Except you don't. Genocide is where you round up entire villages, machine gun them all including women and kids and bulldoze the bodies into an unmarked mass grave. The Gazans have been given safe zones and warning to move there and aid trucks bring food and water. Difficult and unpleasant times. But not genocide.
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Keep telling yourself that... it 'll make it easier to sleep.
 
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wigglee said:
Keep telling yourself that... it 'll make it easier to sleep.
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Look. You can argue that the Israeli invasion is an over reaction to the original incident on 7 October. That's logical and gives you a basis for saying that the civilian deaths in Gaza are excessive. I won't agree, but you have an arguable position.

Those deaths are simply not "genocide". That is NOT arguable because genocide is something different. Here you go. Here's the definition. Read it.

en.wikipedia.org

Genocide - Wikipedia

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