Another Canada Post strike
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After the last postal strike, a lot of companies switched their strategy and are not held hostage by Canada Post any longer. Once bitten...so to speak. Same goes for a lot of people I know who made the switch to online billing completely.
So the union can go on strike and watch their future disappear while they whine about "job security".
So the union can go on strike and watch their future disappear while they whine about "job security".
100%, we never send invoices or statements via letter mail anymore unless specifically requested. The same with client payments, the vast majority are electronic. Every and I mean EVERY package goes via courier now, in the last 15 years we have reduced our use of Canada Post by 95% at least. The near elimination of letter mail easily covers the few extra dollars we spend on couriers for much better service.
I heard on the news that Canada Post submitted its "Final Offer" to the union today.
I hope this brings the pimple to a head, as I have important letters with large charitable donation cheques to mail, and I don't want to send them into a full-blown strike.
As they technically don't have to arrive at the charities until December, I don't want to pay the extra amount for courier services.
I'll wait until the issue is fully resolved...
I hope this brings the pimple to a head, as I have important letters with large charitable donation cheques to mail, and I don't want to send them into a full-blown strike.
As they technically don't have to arrive at the charities until December, I don't want to pay the extra amount for courier services.
I'll wait until the issue is fully resolved...
Canada Post wants the government to force the union to vote on it's "Final Offer".
The government said it won't force a vote, and stated that the two parties must come to a mutual agreement.
That hasn't worked since the strike last year, and isn't working now.
Imho the government doesn't want to force anything more at this point, as it doesn't want to appear to be the "bad guy" to labour.
Instead they'll sit back and allow the issue to fester until it does become a full-blown strike, with unfortunate consequences for Canadian individuals and businesses.
Cowards!
The government said it won't force a vote, and stated that the two parties must come to a mutual agreement.
That hasn't worked since the strike last year, and isn't working now.
Imho the government doesn't want to force anything more at this point, as it doesn't want to appear to be the "bad guy" to labour.
Instead they'll sit back and allow the issue to fester until it does become a full-blown strike, with unfortunate consequences for Canadian individuals and businesses.
Cowards!
Maybe doing without mail for a while will make Canadians decide if its a service they are willing to pay for, like police and firemen.Canada Post wants the government to force the union to vote on it's "Final Offer".
The government said it won't force a vote, and stated that the two parties must come to a mutual agreement.
That hasn't worked since the strike last year, and isn't working now.
Imho the government doesn't want to force anything more at this point, as it doesn't want to appear to be the "bad guy" to labour.
Instead they'll sit back and allow the issue to fester until it does become a full-blown strike, with unfortunate consequences for Canadian individuals and businesses.
Cowards!
According to The Toronto Sun, the postal union issued a statement on Saturday saying it was inviting Canada Post to a fair, final, and binding arbitration process to resolve the dispute.
I can't see why Canada Post wouldn't agree to that, unless they are hoping that the union will full-on strike, and the government will, after a few weeks or so, force them back to work.
I can't see why Canada Post wouldn't agree to that, unless they are hoping that the union will full-on strike, and the government will, after a few weeks or so, force them back to work.
I don't understand how they can ask for job guarantee. There are no guarantees anywhere.
For me it's my morning candy with breakfast. Early morning home delivery, politics (with a conservative bias), pro-Semitic, anti-Hamas, sports, entertainment news, etc. What more can I ask for at breakfast?
I have a New York Times digital subscription for up-to-the-minute news and more serious content, with a "left" bias, plus a weekly subscription to The New Yorker magazine for interesting articles, anti-Trump political comments, and of course the great cartoons.
And TERB for the really important stuff lol
Last time they went on strike, most companies had to scramble. Since then, they've worked on moving away from dependencies on Canada Post. Most of the revenue comes from companies. That revenue is not coming back.Canada Post wants the government to force the union to vote on it's "Final Offer".
The government said it won't force a vote, and stated that the two parties must come to a mutual agreement.
That hasn't worked since the strike last year, and isn't working now.
Imho the government doesn't want to force anything more at this point, as it doesn't want to appear to be the "bad guy" to labour.
Instead they'll sit back and allow the issue to fester until it does become a full-blown strike, with unfortunate consequences for Canadian individuals and businesses.
Cowards!
So every time Canada Post threatens to go on strike, they are only contributing to their own demise.
These union hacks live in a bubble and feel entitled to more and more regardless of how well the company is doing.
Canada can't afford to give Canada Post $1 billion+ loan to stay afloat only for them to keep losing money every year.
That may be so, but I consider some basic model of a relatively inexpensive, yet timely, postal service to be essential for many individual Canadians and small businesses.
Perhaps reduced delivery days to each address, but at least once a week, if not twice.
They should be considered an "essential service", and not permitted to strike. Binding arbitration being the only acceptable alternative.
Binding arbitration to keep an organization that has not adapted with the times is a waste of time, money and effort.
They face a dilemma: wanting to keep a large unionized workforce employed while demand dwindles. That doesn't work in most other businesses and doesn't work here.
The government would be better off subsidizing private mail delivery than lending money we don't have to keep an inefficient dinosaur alive.
You need a Canadian source for news for balance.For me it's my morning candy with breakfast. Early morning home delivery, politics (with a conservative bias), pro-Semitic, anti-Hamas, sports, entertainment news, etc. What more can I ask for at breakfast?
I have a New York Times digital subscription for up-to-the-minute news and more serious content, with a "left" bias, plus a weekly subscription to The New Yorker magazine for interesting articles, anti-Trump political comments, and of course the great cartoons.
And TERB for the really important stuff lol
In the situation you envision, what should the charge be for the private mail delivery of a standard No.10 envelope of usual weight, to be sent anywhere in Canada with, say, a 7 to 10 day delivery standard, which is what Canada Post can usually do today for $1.23?
And how much money do you think the government would have to subsidize a private mail service to maintain that rate?
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The amount of small-large businesses using Canada post has been dwindling for many years. They've already found alternatives that work for them, especially after being held hostage by the last strike.
Sending paper mail is bad for the environment so it needs to be drastically reduced.
Even if Canada post subsidizes the cost of postage at the current rate, it would still be saving money by shedding all of the operational costs.
You didn't mention how important Canada Post is to individual Canadians, especially seniors.
Nor did you attempt to estimate how much the subsidies would cost the government. Of course how could you know how much that would be?
As far as paper mail and the environment, the junk mail I receive far outweighs any actual important mail I receive or send, although I imagine it helps to mitigate the operating costs of Canada Post.
Let's agree to disagree...
Seniors will be gone soon. So if we're planning for the future, it doesn't include them. Sad but true.
I don't accept homework from strangers on the internet so if you want hard numbers, you will need to research that on your own.
Here's my math:
Losing $1 billion per year means demand and operational efficiencies aren't there and no business would survive in the same scenario.
No one needs or relies on paper flyers aside from seniors who are either not capable or unwilling to change with the times. See my first point.
