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Another black man killed by a cop in Atlanta trying to escape arrest

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Any good defence lawyer will play the tape to the jury of a black AG telling us the taser is a lethal weapon except in the case when a black man fired one at a police officer. Then it's not a lethal weapon and the cop can be charged with murder. What a shit show this is going to be.
 

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It will be very difficult for them to bullshit their way out of this one, but I suspect it'll be the usual ad hominem attacks
I actually watched the entire body cam footage
and the cops were very proper and nice to the guy (who was drunk enough to not know where he was and deny being the driver which would be hilarious except I knew how it ended) up until he resisted arrest.

Ima follow this case. At this point it seems that the murder charge will turn on whether the cop was obligated to count taser shots and know that the taser was empty, which I am pretty sure no jurors would agree on. It's notoriously known that people are incapable of counting shots in a real life shootout.
 

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According to the breathalyzer the deceased's BAC was 0.108 which is legally intoxicated to drive in the state of Georgia but would likely not cause him to pass out in a drive thru. I'm predicting the tox screen will come back with drugs in his system as well.
 

apoptygma

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Hey danmand, Apopigme, basketcase, shack and a few others. You were saying something about a taser not being a deadly weapon??
This is right from Paul Howard's mouth. He's the Atlanta DA who just charged Garrett Rolfe with murder.
Only problem is he said these words 2 weeks before the Rayshard Brooks incident happened, which means this murder case is now dead in the water ?

So what you are saying is that the officer attempted to use lethal force when he tased Rayshard Brooks while he was trying to get away.
I wouldn't brag about these words from Paul Howard.
They are going to be prosecutorial gold in the case against the murdering cops... but the defense will claim that tasers are NOT lethal weapons.
You murderer-apologists can't have it both ways... but you guys aren't clever enough to recognize the hypocrisy.
 

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Yup I wonder how is going to spin this now?
There is no way to spin it.

As it pertains to another case, the District Attorney explicitly stated "THE TASER IS A DEADLY WEAPON UNDER GEORGIA LAW".

Now, mere weeks later he turns around and says it isn't. It's like he is making it up as he goes LOL.

Brooks had two more charges in the Taser = two more chances to render Rolfe incapacitated and go for his gun and kill him or someone else. Or in the frenzied state he was in, continue to run and use the Taser against an innocent passerby.


It's like the DA, the mayor etc have all lost their collective minds.

EG., the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, specifically tasked to fully investigate this case says they were blindsided by DA Howard's decision to pursue charges. "The GBI was not aware of today’s press conference before it was conducted. We were not consulted on the charges filed by the District Attorney". That is BIZARRE!

Also it has been revealed that DA Paul Howard lied about the other officer Brosnan turning "state's witness" agreeing to testify against Rolfe.

It is a blatant LIE. According to Brosnan's attorney:

Speaking with CNN, Attorney Don Samuel said, "Officer Brosnan has not agreed to testify. He has not agreed to plead guilty. He honestly told the DA’s office everything that happened during a lengthy interview yesterday. He will continue to tell the DA or the GBI, or any other investigator what happened. But he is absolutely not guilty of any crime and will not plead guilty and has not agreed to be a ‘state’s witness.’
 
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Ima follow this case. At this point it seems that the murder charge will turn on whether the cop was obligated to count taser shots and know that the taser was empty, which I am pretty sure no jurors would agree on. It's notoriously known that people are incapable of counting shots in a real life shootout.
Wait a minute here bucko.....Harry Callahan did it all the time.

So surely this officer could do the same thing. Come on now!
 

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This one problematic. Clearly resisted arrest, despite being treated professionally, takes one of their weapons away and shoots it at the cops. This is not a case to hang your protests on. The arrestee had multiple chances to prevent this outcome - chose to resist, chose to fight, chose to take the taser, chose to fire it at the cops. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. 4 really bad decisions. Then burning down the Wendy's compounds the stupidity.

Was shooting him required though? That's the tricky part. I would think not. But in the Monday morning quarterbacking when time slows down and you can stop and think logically not pressed for split second decisions it seems there might have been a few more options. But unfortunately this event happens in real time, split seconds, and under those circumstances the shooting could be reasonable.
This is pretty much how I feel. ^^^

25 Cops have been shot to death in the US so far this year. But you don't hear about that on the news!

https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2020
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So what you are saying is that the officer attempted to use lethal force when he tased Rayshard Brooks while he was trying to get away
No, if he wanted to use legal force he wouldve shot him

I wouldn't brag about these words from Paul Howard.
They are going to be prosecutorial gold in the case against the murdering cops... but the defense will claim that tasers are NOT lethal weapons
You got that exactly the other way around. It will be gold for the defense.
The taser has been approved as a LESS lethal weapon that can be used instead of an officer's handgun, but that doesnt mean they arent occassionally lethal.
Also note I said APPROVED for law enforcement. But Brooks was not LE plus he was a convicted felon, therefore he was illegally in possession of a less lethal weapon like the taser.

Read here: https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/stun-gun-laws-georgia.htm
 

apoptygma

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No, if he wanted to use legal force he wouldve shot him


You got that exactly the other way around. It will be gold for the defense.
The taser has been approved as a LESS lethal weapon that can be used instead of an officer's handgun, but that doesnt mean they arent occassionally lethal.
Also note I said APPROVED for law enforcement. But Brooks was not LE plus he was a convicted felon, therefore he was illegally in possession of a less lethal weapon like the taser.

Read here: https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/stun-gun-laws-georgia.htm
Do you believe the bullshit that you type?
LESS LETHAL? So the target would be less dead?
Get help.
 

apoptygma

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Its less lethal in percentages when fired compared to a regular handgun.
Surely you understand this??

Well....maybe you dont
You murderer-apologists just can't agree, can you?
Less lethal, non-lethal, lethal.
Which is it Pillsy?

I'll give you a hint:
For guys like you, it's non-lethal when the po-po use it, less lethal when you are trying to defend it's use, but deadly lethal when blacks use it.
Sound about right?
 

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Phil C. McNasty

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You murderer-apologists just can't agree, can you?
Less lethal, non-lethal, lethal.
Which is it Pillsy?
Less lethal

I'll give you a hint:
For guys like you, it's non-lethal when the po-po use it, less lethal when you are trying to defend it's use, but deadly lethal when blacks use it.
Sound about right?
Nope, its less lethal for all parties
 

basketcase

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Also you have no clue how a Tazer works, you can hit a dude with the cartridge prongs and use direct contact against a second individual incapacitating both at the same time.
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I addressed that several times. He pointed the used taser from a distance --> No threat as the prongs were shot. He was running away --> no threat of contact usage (if any charges were even left)
 

basketcase

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You want police treated like everyone else but are against them protesting what they believe is injustice, Are you a hypocrite?
Actually I want them held to a higher standard. They are supposed to be well trained professionals.
 

basketcase

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Phil C. McNasty said:
We could just as easily call you a criminal-apologist



funny how people who have sympathy for criminal brooks don't have sympathy for [alleged] criminals cops. It's almost like their sympathy is driven by race lol
How about people who expect professionals to act like professionals?
 

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I think you are completely oblivious as to what Black Lives Matter stands for as a group. They are vehemently anti police & anti authority. They are anarchist and believe in a form of black supremacy, not unlike the Black Panther Party. The fact that they have hijacked the equality and civil rights conversation may have fooled some weak minded (mostly lib left) but make no mistake about it. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.
You are pretty clueless about this. BLM encompasses a wide variety of groups with a wide variety of views. I know it makes you more comfortable to consider BLM (or antifa) as a cohesive, evil group but that's not reality.
 
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