Another American School Shooting...

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Oh my god, I can't even the imagine the fear and concern for the parents.
 

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Apparently last year 3 students of that school were killed in separate and individual shootings, but not on the school campus.
 
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Every time there is a school shooting we always say that our thought and prayers are with the family... and they are. No parent should have to go through this. Looking at the US as a whole, though, I have no sympathy. What on earth would make a country think that it is OK for its citizens to own military grade hardware. The second amendment was written at a time when the US was striking a militia to fight their British overlords. It has absolutely no place in today's society yet no legislator has the balls to do anything about it. This is not the first time this has happened and will not be the last, unfortunately.
 

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'Mericans will defend their right to military grade automatic arms to the bitter end - they are paranoid about any centralized government control.
It is insane but predictable - 20 years from now the same headlines.
 
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Our thoughts and prayers.....................................are with the NRA. At some point there there will be strong anti-gun legislation. Then they'll have to bite the bullet.
its not the NRA they are a lobby group

the second amendment will prevent any "strong anti-gun legislation" and so it should as Americans have the right to bear arms
 

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Every time there is a school shooting we always say that our thought and prayers are with the family... and they are. No parent should have to go through this. Looking at the US as a whole, though, I have no sympathy. What on earth would make a country think that it is OK for its citizens to own military grade hardware. The second amendment was written at a time when the US was striking a militia to fight their British overlords. It has absolutely no place in today's society yet no legislator has the balls to do anything about it. This is not the first time this has happened and will not be the last, unfortunately.
then the ALL the amendments are old and have no place so now there are NO freedoms in the us
 

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'Mericans will defend their right to arms to the bitter end - they are paranoid about any centralized government control.
It is insane but predictable - 20 years from now the same headlines.
you lack on knowledge shows full auto is strictly controlled class 3 weapon in the us banned since the 1930's last open in 1986 most people cant own full auto nor could they afford to cheap fa guns start around $10-15K
 

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you lack on knowledge shows full auto is strictly controlled class 3 weapon in the us banned since the 1930's last open in 1986 most people cant own full auto nor could they afford to cheap fa guns start around $10-15K
They buy retrofit kits - it is done all the time - look at Vegas shooting - openly sold at gun shows or online or with the silent militia.
 

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They buy retrofit kits - it is done all the time - look at Vegas shooting - openly sold at gun shows or online or with the silent militia.
its a felony 10 years in jail to convert a semi automatic to full auto unless your a licensed manufacture its also 10 years for possession of an unregistered full auto

lets say you have a semi automatic akm if you have the parts to convert said rifle to full auto, you WILL if caught be charged with conspiracy to manufacture a full auto and face 10 years

vegas he used a bump fire stock NOT a full auto you can tell by the rate of fire alone in the videos its different then real full auto, bump fire stocks after Vegas were banned but the courts overturned it but the court case still winds through

you cannot have FA parts if you own the gun they fit that's not a registered NFA weapon

look up and read the national firearms act

yes you can buy the parts but for instance the akm you need to drill another hole in the receiver that's ONLY used for the auto trip sear so it would be illegal and plainly obvious you did so
 
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its a felony 10 years in jail to convert a semi automatic to full auto unless your a licensed manufacture its also 10 years for possession of an unregistered full auto

lets say you have a semi automatic akm if you have the parts to convert said rifle to full auto you WILL if caught be charged with conspiracy to manufacture a full auto and face 10 years

vegas he used a bump fire stock NOT a full auto you can tell by the rate of fire alone in the videos its different then real full auto, bump fire stocks after Vegas were banned but the courts overturned it but the court case still winds through

you cannot have FA parts if you own the gun that's not a registered NFA weapon

look up and read the national firearms act

yes you can buy the parts but for instance the akm you need to drill another hole in the receiver that's ONLY used for the auto trip sear so it would be illegal and plainly obvious you did so
Well it seems like you are certainly an expert in firearms - you proved my point - anyone with sufficient knowledge can modify a weapon which then no longer becomes one for self-defence and to protect the government from being overthrown. Someone motivated can and will make those changes.
The only use for anything other than a handgun is to kill and maim as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time. Not protecting democracy or protecting your home.
The whole mindset is just insane. I highly doubt they could have imagined that kind of power in the hands of ordinary 'Mericans when they drafted that amendment.
Having a personal gun is dumb too - they can argue it is to protect you but billions of people around the world function well without that thinking.
I have fired rifles in a controlled environment. I know the power and it is not something that should be in the hands of 200 million potentially unhinged 'Mericans.
 
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Well it seems like you are certainly an expert in firearms - you proved my point - anyone with sufficient knowledge can modify a weapon which then no longer becomes one for self-defence and to protect the government from being overthrown. Someone motivated can and will make those changes.
The only use for anything other than a handgun is to kill and maim as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time. Not protecting democracy or protecting your home.
The whole mindset is just insane. I highly doubt they could have imagined that kind of power in the hands of ordinary 'Mericans when they drafted that amendment.
Having a personal gun is dumb too - they can argue it is to protect you but billions of people around the world function well without that thinking.
I have fired rifles in a controlled environment. I know the power and it is not something that should be in the hands of 200 million potentially unhinged 'Mericans.
we fortunately your NOT the one who decides what others need or don't need

handguns kill the most people in the usa per year then your "powerful rifles" are simply not a factor and are used in 2% of all gun deaths in the us more people die falling out of bed per year then from an AR15


as for modifications they are illegal by your logic cars and everything else should be banned as somebody MIGHT/mod it and do something bad with it

as for full auto being used in crimes very very rare you get too much jail just for the gun. only one i can think of off hand is bank of America shoot out in LA in 1997 over 2000 rnds fired and ONLY the robbers were killed (stopped by cops who got rifles form a local gun shop)

full auto is fun at the range and very useful to cross a street when being shot at but its used in movies more then real life crimes the US army after Vietnam changed the m16/M4 to semi and 3 shot burst as full auto used to much ammo for too few kills they still have a LMG in a squad for fire suppression
 

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'Mericans will defend their right to military grade automatic arms to the bitter end - they are paranoid about any centralized government control.
It is insane but predictable - 20 years from now the same headlines.
military grade? wrong

civilian ar15's would not pass the us army acceptance tests they are semiautomatic only and only the most expensive ones are made to specification regarding materials

military grade means, any item be it a rifle or blanket must be made of certain materials and specifications size weight ect.

ford pickup trucks advertise that the frame is made out of "military grade aluminum"
 

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military grade? wrong

civilian ar15's would not pass the us army acceptance tests they are semiautomatic only and only the most expensive ones are made to specification regarding materials

military grade means, any item be it a rifle or blanket must be made of certain materials and specifications size weight ect.

ford pickup trucks advertise that the frame is made out of "military grade aluminum"
I stand corrected - the weapons are not made of the same materials as the US army but can inflict nearly the same rate of death and maiming.
You are ignoring the main point which is that high rate death weapons are not required to defend property and were not in existence when the 2nd amendment was written.
 

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I stand corrected - the weapons are not made of the same materials as the US army but can inflict nearly the same rate of death and maiming.
You are ignoring the main point which is that high rate death weapons are not required to defend property and were not in existence when the 2nd amendment was written.
so then by YOUR logic the 1st amendment should go too because the computer or smart phone your on here wasn't around when it was written

handguns kill the most americans per year
rifles of ANY type are used in less then 2% of deaths so they do not cause all this death and maiming you go on about please read this table from the FBI pay attention to the rifle section FBI — Table 20
each state had more people killed by "other" weapons then by rifles hell many states had more people killed by hands and feet then by rifles

once again rifles are simply not a problem
 
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so then by YOUR logic the 1st amendment should go too because the computer or smart phone your using wasn't around when it was written

handguns kill the most americans per year
rifles of ANY type are used in less then 2% of deaths so they do not cause all this death and maiming you go on about please read this table from the FBI pay attention to the rifle section FBI — Table 20
each state had more people killed by "other" weapons then by rifles hell many states had more people killed by hands and feet then by rifles

once again rifles are simply not a problem
There's logically no connection between the 1st and 2nd Amendment. Speech doesn't become exponentially more dangerous because there are computers and phones.

OTOH, even semi automatic firearms are more dangerous than muzzle loading muskets with a rate of fire of twice a minute and a range of 100 yards. Add in that there are no redcoats to fend off, no Indians, no cattle rustlers, no marauding grizzly bears and that folks don't live on farmsteads at a population density of 10 per square mile and you have a completely different society. And the 2nd A CLEARLY refers to "militia". And that's not the 3 %-er type either.

And yup, these are below military grade semi automatics. But they feature in a disproportionate number of events which criminologists call "mass public shootings" - shootings w random, non-crime related victims.

No other Western society puts up with bizarre anachronistic shit like "open carry". It's an unhealthy part of the American Right's fixation w "government oppression and tyranny" - which loosely translates into a guy and his idiot buddies threatening to kill any government official who orders him to do anything his latest Far Right conspiracy theory tells him is part of the "commie plot".

And no other Western society puts up with multiple school shootings each year as the cost of its macho stance on rifles.
 
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