Android Invasion: The Next Phase Begins..
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who said google is open source?
Google is not hey lets get together and hug a tree.... they want all your info data ...... everything just like facebook... i have a droid milestone.... prefer to use my iphone... typing is better cut and paste works more often on the iphone then the droid.... better games for long flights.... droid has a better screen... easier to root .... but ui is clunky and slow... yep running 2.2 .... just my experiences working with google and engineers. will it be all over for sure ... everyone would like to manufacturing costs...
Google is not hey lets get together and hug a tree.... they want all your info data ...... everything just like facebook... i have a droid milestone.... prefer to use my iphone... typing is better cut and paste works more often on the iphone then the droid.... better games for long flights.... droid has a better screen... easier to root .... but ui is clunky and slow... yep running 2.2 .... just my experiences working with google and engineers. will it be all over for sure ... everyone would like to manufacturing costs...
Actually Google is the next evil empire........ but for now they are the new kids on the block.
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I am surprised people are surprised that Facebook and others invade your privacy. I don't think I have ever put my info at these social sites. About the only way anyone gets my info is if I am buying something with a CC online and they need a shipping address. My Myspace, Facebook and others, fake names and address. My Gmail isn't even close to me. I do go by the name Haywood Jablowme alot!!
6 Thinly Disguised Google Jabs At Apple from the google I/O keynote address
Jab #1: The Closed iPhone Ecosystem
Vic Gundotra, vice president of engineering at Google, told I/O attendees an account of his first day at Google, which included meeting Andy Rubin, co-founder and former CEO of both Danger Inc. and Android. Gundotra said he was initially skeptical about the need for yet another mobile operating system and expressed this to Rubin, who responded that it was critical to provide an open mobile OS that would enable innovation at every layer of the stack.
Gundotra said that was when he realized that Android would help avoid a situation in which "one man, one carrier and one device would control everything".
"That's a future we don't want," Gundotra said to thunderous applause.
Jab #2: Javascript Performance On iPad
Android 2.2 includes the same Javascript interpreter Google uses in the Chrome browser. In a animated video demo comparing the Javascript performance of Android 2.2, Android 2.1 (code-named clair) and an iPad, which used the SunSpider Javascript benchmark, Android 2.2 blew the doors off the competition.
Referring to the animated demo, Gundotra chuckled: "I really wonder if we'll be able to get that in the App Store."
Jab #3: Apple's Flash Loathing
Android 2.2 includes support for Adobe's Flash Player 10.1, and when Gundotra revealed this in his keynote, he literally had to stop for a few seconds as conference attendees cheered the official confirmation.
Apple, of course, wants nothing to do with Flash, least of all on the iPhone, and Gundotra suggested that the broader IT industry doesn't share this view. "It turns out that one the Internet, people use Flash," Gundotra said. "And part of being open means you're inclusive, rather than exclusive, and you're open to innovation."
Jab #4: iPhone Push Notifications
Developers are thrilled about Google's new Cloud-To-Device Messaging API, which lets developers deliver Web-based information, such as Google Maps directions, down to a mobile device. iPhone push notifications perform a similar function, but in a rather clunky manner, Gundotra suggested.
"This is not push notifications designed to compensate for a lack of basic functionality like multitasking in the OS," Gundotra said. The giggling from audience members was evidence that he wasn't alone in this assessment.
Jab #5: Closed Development Architectures
Google is teaming up with VMware to make it easier for developers to write Java applications that run on a wide variety of cloud platforms. The idea is to let developers leverage the open source Spring Framework that VMware picked up in last year's acquisition of SpringSource.
David Glazer, Google's director of engineering, hammered home the message that embracing open standards makes innovation flow much more easily, something that can't be said of closed development architectures. "Architectures tend to trap people," Glazer said in a keynote at I/O. "Applications are trapped, and the choices you make today lock you into the deployment models of tomorrow."
Sure, maybe Glazer was referring to Microsoft, or Oracle, or some amorphous, nameless collection of companies. But the iPhone development architecture sure seems to fit this description.
Jab #6: HTML5 And Web Video
Google at I/O said it's making the VP8 video codec available under a completely royalty free open-source license. This could help end the industry bickering that's been going on over Web video, and it's a move that has some of Google's partners noticing the contrast with Apple's stance on Flash on the iPhone.
"We wouldn't accept that HTML5 is only used for documents and not for applications," said Mike Shaver, vice president of engineering at Mozilla . "We've seen what happens when things change at the whim of one organization, and the Web needs to be free of that."
Jab #1: The Closed iPhone Ecosystem
Vic Gundotra, vice president of engineering at Google, told I/O attendees an account of his first day at Google, which included meeting Andy Rubin, co-founder and former CEO of both Danger Inc. and Android. Gundotra said he was initially skeptical about the need for yet another mobile operating system and expressed this to Rubin, who responded that it was critical to provide an open mobile OS that would enable innovation at every layer of the stack.
Gundotra said that was when he realized that Android would help avoid a situation in which "one man, one carrier and one device would control everything".
"That's a future we don't want," Gundotra said to thunderous applause.
Jab #2: Javascript Performance On iPad
Android 2.2 includes the same Javascript interpreter Google uses in the Chrome browser. In a animated video demo comparing the Javascript performance of Android 2.2, Android 2.1 (code-named clair) and an iPad, which used the SunSpider Javascript benchmark, Android 2.2 blew the doors off the competition.
Referring to the animated demo, Gundotra chuckled: "I really wonder if we'll be able to get that in the App Store."
Jab #3: Apple's Flash Loathing
Android 2.2 includes support for Adobe's Flash Player 10.1, and when Gundotra revealed this in his keynote, he literally had to stop for a few seconds as conference attendees cheered the official confirmation.
Apple, of course, wants nothing to do with Flash, least of all on the iPhone, and Gundotra suggested that the broader IT industry doesn't share this view. "It turns out that one the Internet, people use Flash," Gundotra said. "And part of being open means you're inclusive, rather than exclusive, and you're open to innovation."
Jab #4: iPhone Push Notifications
Developers are thrilled about Google's new Cloud-To-Device Messaging API, which lets developers deliver Web-based information, such as Google Maps directions, down to a mobile device. iPhone push notifications perform a similar function, but in a rather clunky manner, Gundotra suggested.
"This is not push notifications designed to compensate for a lack of basic functionality like multitasking in the OS," Gundotra said. The giggling from audience members was evidence that he wasn't alone in this assessment.
Jab #5: Closed Development Architectures
Google is teaming up with VMware to make it easier for developers to write Java applications that run on a wide variety of cloud platforms. The idea is to let developers leverage the open source Spring Framework that VMware picked up in last year's acquisition of SpringSource.
David Glazer, Google's director of engineering, hammered home the message that embracing open standards makes innovation flow much more easily, something that can't be said of closed development architectures. "Architectures tend to trap people," Glazer said in a keynote at I/O. "Applications are trapped, and the choices you make today lock you into the deployment models of tomorrow."
Sure, maybe Glazer was referring to Microsoft, or Oracle, or some amorphous, nameless collection of companies. But the iPhone development architecture sure seems to fit this description.
Jab #6: HTML5 And Web Video
Google at I/O said it's making the VP8 video codec available under a completely royalty free open-source license. This could help end the industry bickering that's been going on over Web video, and it's a move that has some of Google's partners noticing the contrast with Apple's stance on Flash on the iPhone.
"We wouldn't accept that HTML5 is only used for documents and not for applications," said Mike Shaver, vice president of engineering at Mozilla . "We've seen what happens when things change at the whim of one organization, and the Web needs to be free of that."
then there is this 11 Ways Google Just Slapped Apple
1) Here's the biggest "duh" in the bunch. Google's new TV platform clobbers Apple's rather meek TV effort. Android-based Google TV adds a web-like interface to television watching. It's like TiVo on steroids. You can watch cable, and watch YouTube and search the web all on your television.
2) In response to Apple's iAds, Google VP Vic Gundotra announced Google Mobile Ads. When Vic introduced it, he made some joke about advertisers not having to spend one million dollars to participate in Google's mobile advertising program. That's the price Apple is looking for the first iAds.
3) At the start of the event Vic Gundotra noted that search on the mobile phone has growth 5X since 2008. Why does this matter? Some people think the importance of apps on the iPhone diminishes the importance of search in mobile. Google wants Apple to know that standard web searching is still big and growing on mobile.
4) On stage Google conducted a speed test of mobile browsers with SunSpider, which is a widely used JavaScript benchmark test. It compared the newest version of the Android browser running versus Apple's Safari iPad browser. The Android browser was much faster. As you can see in the chart above (via Gizmodo) Google says the Android broswser is the world's fastest.
5) Sony CEO Sir Howard Stringer delivered a quote that might haunt him one day. Sitting with Eric Schmidt on stage he said, it's great to work with Google, it's a partnership where you "have no fear." Sony is scared of Apple and its hardware devices. It's all well and good for Howard to say that now, but any tech company that doesn't fear Google on some level is nuts.
6) Eric Schmidt said to Sir Howard Stringer, we at Google always looked at Sony for innovation. That's a bold statement since we've read that Google was always inspired by Steve Jobs. To say that Sony was inspirational is a big jab at Apple.
7) Vic Gundotra talked about handing his iPad to his daughter. She immediately went to her favorite site, Nickelodeon. That site relies heavily Flash so his daughter was disappointed. He then pulled out an Android handset that could access the site in full.
8) Google announced plans to start selling music through its Android Marketplace. There wasn't pricing or details available immediately, but Google just went into Apple's iTunes turf. At the same time it announced this, it also announced that it will allow users to stream their music collection to their phone. This pre-empts whatever announcement Apple is planning for its Lala acquisition.
9) We almost forgot about this until a commenter pointed it out. Google also announced the ability to buy apps through the web and have them sync with your phone. Another clear slap at the iTunes/App Store model. When Vic demoed it, he said "Now there's something called Internet" which was a smack at Apple's model.
10) The latest version of the iPhone software implies that tethering is coming to the iPhone. It's still not available, though. Apple and AT&T promised this almost a year ago. Today Google showed off its version of Internet tethering.
11) Google just muscled its way into the living room. It now offers a complete suite of products for consumers. From the desktop to the mobile phone to the television, Google now has software for consumers to use. If you buy a Sony TV running Android software, you'll be more likely to buy an Android handset, or so the thinking goes. Apple does not have a similar offering.
source http://www.businessinsider.com/10-ways-google-just-slapped-apple-2010-5
1) Here's the biggest "duh" in the bunch. Google's new TV platform clobbers Apple's rather meek TV effort. Android-based Google TV adds a web-like interface to television watching. It's like TiVo on steroids. You can watch cable, and watch YouTube and search the web all on your television.
2) In response to Apple's iAds, Google VP Vic Gundotra announced Google Mobile Ads. When Vic introduced it, he made some joke about advertisers not having to spend one million dollars to participate in Google's mobile advertising program. That's the price Apple is looking for the first iAds.
3) At the start of the event Vic Gundotra noted that search on the mobile phone has growth 5X since 2008. Why does this matter? Some people think the importance of apps on the iPhone diminishes the importance of search in mobile. Google wants Apple to know that standard web searching is still big and growing on mobile.
4) On stage Google conducted a speed test of mobile browsers with SunSpider, which is a widely used JavaScript benchmark test. It compared the newest version of the Android browser running versus Apple's Safari iPad browser. The Android browser was much faster. As you can see in the chart above (via Gizmodo) Google says the Android broswser is the world's fastest.
5) Sony CEO Sir Howard Stringer delivered a quote that might haunt him one day. Sitting with Eric Schmidt on stage he said, it's great to work with Google, it's a partnership where you "have no fear." Sony is scared of Apple and its hardware devices. It's all well and good for Howard to say that now, but any tech company that doesn't fear Google on some level is nuts.
6) Eric Schmidt said to Sir Howard Stringer, we at Google always looked at Sony for innovation. That's a bold statement since we've read that Google was always inspired by Steve Jobs. To say that Sony was inspirational is a big jab at Apple.
7) Vic Gundotra talked about handing his iPad to his daughter. She immediately went to her favorite site, Nickelodeon. That site relies heavily Flash so his daughter was disappointed. He then pulled out an Android handset that could access the site in full.
8) Google announced plans to start selling music through its Android Marketplace. There wasn't pricing or details available immediately, but Google just went into Apple's iTunes turf. At the same time it announced this, it also announced that it will allow users to stream their music collection to their phone. This pre-empts whatever announcement Apple is planning for its Lala acquisition.
9) We almost forgot about this until a commenter pointed it out. Google also announced the ability to buy apps through the web and have them sync with your phone. Another clear slap at the iTunes/App Store model. When Vic demoed it, he said "Now there's something called Internet" which was a smack at Apple's model.
10) The latest version of the iPhone software implies that tethering is coming to the iPhone. It's still not available, though. Apple and AT&T promised this almost a year ago. Today Google showed off its version of Internet tethering.
11) Google just muscled its way into the living room. It now offers a complete suite of products for consumers. From the desktop to the mobile phone to the television, Google now has software for consumers to use. If you buy a Sony TV running Android software, you'll be more likely to buy an Android handset, or so the thinking goes. Apple does not have a similar offering.
source http://www.businessinsider.com/10-ways-google-just-slapped-apple-2010-5
Speaking of apps without borders, have they removed the space limit for apps? Currently, on a Nexus One, Droid Incredible, etc. You can have gigs and gigs of on board memory but only a 150-200 MB is allocated to store apps. That sounds like a big border to me.
Android 2.2 allows you to store apps on SD cards now removing that so called border
All Android phones only use internal storage for apps? Droid limited to 256MB from http://www.9to5mac.com/android-rom-install-256-droid
Thanks for the video. I watched the whole thing. Interesting. I will be getting either an Incredible or Nexus One when my contract runs out in two weeks.
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I too found the video very interesting. An Android-based phone is definitely on my radar screen.
It took 4 releases before it occurred to them that current limitation was bad for users?Android 2.2 allows you to store apps on SD cards now removing that so called border
So let me get this straight. I go out and buy a Droid Incredible which has 8 GB of internal storage but I can't max it out by downloading apps? Froyo doesn't let me use all that space and forces me to buy SD cards? Is that what's considered progress on Android?
Google TV Logitech companion box demo (Engadget)
using an iPhone as the remote
looks like a cool device. something i will definitely consider
and yes there is an app for Android to control everything as well
using an iPhone as the remote
looks like a cool device. something i will definitely consider
and yes there is an app for Android to control everything as well
Jeff, I don't know what carrier you're with but the Incredible is only CDMA. The Nexus One only on HSPA.
If you're on Verizon, you can get a Incredible. It's only with them. The Nexus One is available to all HSPA carriers but is only subsidized by T-Mobile. If you want something like the Incredible on HSPA, look for the HTC Desire. It's available in Europe but can be purchased online from sites that sell European/Japanese phones worldwide. Just do your homework and make sure the Desire supports the spectrum we use in North America. I'm pretty sure it does but haven't confirmed it.
Just a FYI.
lol now you're nitpicking. i already have a bunch of SD cards used in various devices. they are pretty cheap and getting cheaper under $20 for 8 gig. it certainly isn't a deal breaker lol How are you enjoying all that flash content on your iPhone/pad lmao all those FREE games and 75% of the web video content. now to me THAT would be a deal breaker
btw how many frikkin apps do you need or use? most iphone users i know use them for games....how silly is that?
