Andrew Tate is arrested and his luxury villa in Romania is raided by police

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dirtyharry555

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So you're arguing that men shouldn't be leaders because they are too violent and criminal?
I'm saying a small but significant proportion of men are extremely violent and aggressive (greater than the proportion of females) that gets them placed in prison, just like a small but significant proportion of men are genius psychotic work horses that place them into leadership positions at higher rates than women.

There are also higher rates of severely mentally challenged males compared to females at the lowest end of the distribution. So while you'll likely find more men in leadership positions than women, you'll also likely find more males suffering on the bottom tier of society than women.
 
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I'm saying a small but significant proportion of men are extremely violent and aggressive (greater than the proportion of females) that place them in prison, just like a small but significant proportion of men are geniuses and psychotic work horses that place them into leadership positions at higher rates than women.

There are also higher rates of severely mentally challenged males compared to females at the lower end of the distribution. So while you'll likely find more men in leadership positions than women, you'll also likely find more males suffering on the bottom tier of society than women.
Genetics or conditioning?

Are a small amount of men born prone to violence or could it be they are all top g wannabe's and alpha male followers?
Once you answer that, can you show that this ratio really is more than women, or that society doesn't deal with violent women differently?
 

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Genetics or conditioning?

Are a small amount of men born prone to violence or could it be they are all top g wannabe's and alpha male followers?
Once you answer that, can you show that this ratio really is more than women, or that society doesn't deal with violent women differently?
Genetics.

The field test has been done for you over hundreds of thousands of years of human history and in the millions of years of archaic-human history before it. Across all cultures, no matter the geography, no matter how isolated.
 
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Thought you enjoy this one...
Oracle absorbs far right website and twitter content almost continually. He reads it several hours a day. Observe the results.

A few days ago, Oracle was expressing distaste for Tate and the criminal charges. Now Oracle is reycling pro Tate horseshit videos. This is how it works, guys. The continual diet of extreme content from1 side of the spectrum remakes opinions and attitudes.
 

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Oracle absorbs far right website and twitter content almost continually. He reads it several hours a day. Observe the results.

A few days ago, Oracle was expressing distaste for Tate and the criminal charges. Now Oracle is reycling pro Tate horseshit videos. This is how it works, guys. The continual diet of extreme content from1 side of the spectrum remakes opinions and attitudes.
Which pretty much closes the genetics vs conditioning argument.
 

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You would think that would close the file on Tate for all his supporters.

Here he explains what happened in the bar fight.

The video in the tweet is just a hit piece with nothing new to add. Every video he has ever made is being carefully dissected,lol.

I'm more eagerly awaiting to see how this will progress. Charges maybe a conviction or acquittal. Perhaps they don't go forward but I'm thinking they have to now.
 

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The same way everyone thinks Tate is good?
I see two main camps... those that believe innocent until proven guilty. This "everyone" is clearly the minority.

The other camp is the mass media & politicians, and the only thing that's coming from it are presumptions of guilt and slander. They have the lion's share of supporters, and they hold all the power.
 
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I see two main camps... those that believe innocent until proven guilty. This "everyone" is clearly the minority.

The other camp is the mass media & politicians, and the only thing that's coming from it are presumptions of guilt and slander. They have the lion's share of supporters, and they hold all the power.
Didn't the guy admit to doing what he was accused on video?
What would you take as proof?
 

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Here he explains what happened in the bar fight.

The video in the tweet is just a hit piece with nothing new to add. Every video he has ever made is being carefully dissected,lol.

I'm more eagerly awaiting to see how this will progress. Charges maybe a conviction or acquittal. Perhaps they don't go forward but I'm thinking they have to now.
Doesn't the fact the authorities have already confiscated everything hint at the fact they believe he's done like dinner? Don't you think it will be very embarrassing for prosecutors to not only have to release him but also give everything back with their hats in hand apologizing and watching Tate gloat?

I say it's a 90% chance he's doing some serious time and losing much of his loved wealth.
 

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Doesn't the fact the authorities have already confiscated everything hint at the fact they believe he's done like dinner? Don't you think it will be very embarrassing for prosecutors to not only have to release him but also give everything back with their hats in hand apologizing and watching Tate gloat?
Well it's Romania so my belief is that they can do that on suspicion alone. It's different than what we are used to.

And yes that's why I think they will charge him and go forward with this.

My inner self is saying that he's guilty of being a braggadocious pompous actor but nothing more.

I'm open to the fact that i'm wrong though.
 
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Well it's Romania so my belief is that they can do that on suspicion alone. It's different than what we are used to.

And yes that's why I think they will charge him and go forward with this.

My inner self is saying that he's guilty of being a braggadocious pompous actor but nothing more.

I'm open to the fact that i'm wrong though.
Braggadocious or not, people like Tate, who run webcam operations, are more than likely guilty. It will always lead to some form of trafficking, abuse and other illegal activities.
 
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Braggadocious or not, people like Tate, who run webcam operations, are more than likely guilty. It will always lead to some form of trafficking, abuse and other illegal activities.
Are people who run escort agencies guilty likely to be guilty of the same thing as well then? By that reasoning.

Think of where we are....Slippery slope.
 

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Genetics or conditioning?

Are a small amount of men born prone to violence or could it be they are all top g wannabe's and alpha male followers?
Once you answer that, can you show that this ratio really is more than women, or that society doesn't deal with violent women differently?
Its the same with men in leadership positions too. Women face challenges with acceptance in positions of authority and therefore are conditioned to either seek lower paying jobs or to not enter into conflicting situations. Similarly men are conditioned into thinking that they cannot be vulnerable and dont seek mental health help and end up suffering more.
 

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Are people who run escort agencies guilty likely to be guilty of the same thing as well then?

Think of where we are....Slippery slope.
It very well might be happening, we just may not know it. Who knows?
 
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