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American's obsession with guns.WTF

asuran

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First is one guy carrying a gun here and there.... sooner or later a larger group of people will be carrying it into airports. All of them are gonna use the 'It's my right to carry!'
If, if, if the worst case happens, will then be finally a drastic change to gun laws?
 

cunning linguist

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There are lots of areas in the United States where people carry firearms and it hasn't devolved into the doomsday, Wild West scenario that antis have dreamed up in their heads. The gun "problem" in the United States isn't as problematic as many would like to believe.

Is this guy being an attention whore? Sure, but he didn't hurt anyone and that's the important thing.
 

scouser1

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Let's make it clear white middle aged dudes get to carry loaded weapons into an airport, can you imagine if a black or "Muslim looking" dude did this, how fast would he have been arrested or worse?
 

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When asked why he brought his rifle with its 100-round magazine into the airport — one of the more secure, policed and surveilled places ordinary citizens are likely to go — the man answered, "Safety". Clearly, by his lights, the only way for someone else to be equally safe —especially to be safe from him — would be to carry an even deadlier weapon with an even larger magazine. An armoured scooter with a pair of machine guns in a turret perhaps? We called the arms-race MAD during the Cold War, follow the link if that term for stupid self-detructive iillogic's a new one for you.

Put aside the very real question of the mental health and reasoning power of such people, if that's the best behaviour expected of average citizens, what happens when one of them feels extra-unsafe seeing some other armed guy who makes them suddenly afraid enough to shoot? And their target, now with very real fears confirmed, shoots back? It's not like those 200 plus bullets just drop harmlessly to the floor as soon as they miss their target. Or don't kill people targeted in error. And no law can ever compel anyone to be good at anything, never mind being wise enough and skilled enough to never miss your shot and never mistake your target.

We need some guns in some peoples hands in some proper places for some proper purposes. We don't need unknown whackos carying them everywhere. But thanks be, it was at least an open carry. Not that his chosen penis-substite could be easiiy hidden.

If your society isn't safe, making it more dangerous is an insane way to fix it. And fixing's what's needed.
 

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The law kept him out of the secure area. The unsecured area is, well, unsecured. So what harm was done?

I agree he seems obsessed, but so what.
 

red

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It's a shame that he feels afraid to walk around unarmed.
 

asuran

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There are lots of areas in the United States where people carry firearms and it hasn't devolved into the doomsday, Wild West scenario that antis have dreamed up in their heads. The gun "problem" in the United States isn't as problematic as many would like to believe.

Is this guy being an attention whore? Sure, but he didn't hurt anyone and that's the important thing.
Those areas are probably not where there are huge crowds of people from different cultures, believes, and colours waiting in lineups after lineups after long stressful travels.
Tho, for the purpose of interest, what are those places you spoke of? Gun rallies?

The police received calls about the situation. In some ways what he did was a public nuisance/safety issue.
 

cunning linguist

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I would say, "don't allow the sale of guns period" Problem really solved.
Not so different from illegalizing prostitution to combat human trafficking. Both are missing the forest for the trees.

P.S. How's your theory working out in places like Chicago or Baltimore?
 

nobody123

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There are lots of areas in the United States where people carry firearms and it hasn't devolved into the doomsday, Wild West scenario that antis have dreamed up in their heads. The gun "problem" in the United States isn't as problematic as many would like to believe.
Exactly. "Gun culture", the widespread ownership of guns, and open carry laws don't lead to anarchy and chaos, they merely lead to an increase in accidental deaths. A statistical blip. What's a few dead toddlers and suspicious-looking-but-innocent black teenagers compared to the right to be an asshole in an airport, after all?
 

cunning linguist

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What's a few underaged foreign girls being trafficked and exploited compared to getting your dick wet?









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poorboy

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The United States was settled with the gun. Those that don't know the history of the gun should read up on its history. Legendary designers and manufacturers like Browning and Remington were very religious and moral people. Browning was a Mormon, and Remington wouldn't fire a gun on Sundays. Guns are inanimate objects. It's the people using them that makes them dangerous. More people are killed in auto accidents than with guns, but cars aren't banned.

By and large, gun owners are law abiding citizens. You can't legally get a gun unless you have no criminal record. Gun control is largely ineffective because criminals don't abide by the law and ignore possession and magazine capacity restrictions. Strict gun control didn't prevent the Parliament attack or the Charlie Hebdoe attack. The terrorists were not legally allowed to possess or use those firearms.

People ignorant of guns also are almost exclusively city folk. The fact of the matter is Canada is mostly rural, and almost every farmer has a firearm to dispose of pests, hunt or go plinking with their kids. Further down the list is self protection because in small communities, the police can be an hour away.

The Swiss are some of the most heavily armed citizens on the planet, and even have a state sponsored shooting day. I'm pretty sure their country isn't on the verge of anarchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
 

scouser1

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The United States was settled with the gun. Those that don't know the history of the gun should read up on its history. Legendary designers and manufacturers like Browning and Remington were very religious and moral people. Browning was a Mormon, and Remington wouldn't fire a gun on Sundays. Guns are inanimate objects. It's the people using them that makes them dangerous. More people are killed in auto accidents than with guns, but cars aren't banned.

By and large, gun owners are law abiding citizens. You can't legally get a gun unless you have no criminal record. Gun control is largely ineffective because criminals don't abide by the law and ignore possession and magazine capacity restrictions. Strict gun control didn't prevent the Parliament attack or the Charlie Hebdoe attack. The terrorists were not legally allowed to possess or use those firearms.

People ignorant of guns also are almost exclusively city folk. The fact of the matter is Canada is mostly rural, and almost every farmer has a firearm to dispose of pests, hunt or go plinking with their kids. Further down the list is self protection because in small communities, the police can be an hour away.

The Swiss are some of the most heavily armed citizens on the planet, and even have a state sponsored shooting day. I'm pretty sure their country isn't on the verge of anarchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
An assault rifle loaded with a 100 rounds serves only one purpose that is to kill people, cars are meant for transportation, very weak argument.
 

cunning linguist

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Here we go again, a semi-auto AR-15 is not assault rifle. If you want to produce legislation that affects somebody else’s life, you do have an obligation to know quite a lot about the activities you want to restrict. So at the very least, please educate yourself. This guy is being an attention whore for sure, but so is Bru...I mean, Caitlyn Jenner.
 
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