American's obsession with guns.WTF

red

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Wanting to be armed, his choice. Not owning a gun, your choice. Live and let...something or other.
The fellow said he needed the gun for safety. So he felt afraid. I am not against guns. For target shooting or hunting but there is no need to be carrying them in the city.

As for your assumption that I don't own guns you would be wrong. I don't walk around with them in the city because I am not afraid of people.
 

poorboy

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An assault rifle loaded with a 100 rounds serves only one purpose that is to kill people, cars are meant for transportation, very weak argument.
So what do you want to do then? Do you think a guy set on killing is going to pause and say "Hmm, the government has limited me to 5 rounds and a bolt action. When I go on a killing spree, I better make sure I follow the law."

I can tell you are a non gun owner. If you were, you'd know 100 rounds is nothing. Even in a precision rifle match, you'll use 100 rounds.

Gun sales in Canada and the U.S. are at record highs, but the violent crime rate has been trending down, so what's the matter here?
 

cunning linguist

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The fellow said he needed the gun for safety. So he felt afraid. I am not against guns. For target shooting or hunting but there is no need to be carrying them in the city.

As for your assumption that I don't own guns you would be wrong. I don't walk around with them in the city because I am not afraid of people.
Fine, that's your choice as well. He lives in a place where it's not only legal, but recognized as a right. He didn't hurt anyone, so what's the problem?
 

poorboy

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Obama has done more to sell firearms than any U.S. President in history. His efforts to bring in gun legislation drove the sale of AR15's to record highs and produced ammo shortages because of citizens stockpiling ammo. His efforts to get the ATF to ban the popular M855 5.56 ammo for the AR15 also drove record sales of 5.56.

Even the lowly Ruger 10-22 was impossible to get 2 years ago because Ruger had a 4 million gun order backlog. All because of Obama.

He'll go down in history as being responsible for making guns the new golf in America.
 

jcpro

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The fellow said he needed the gun for safety. So he felt afraid. I am not against guns. For target shooting or hunting but there is no need to be carrying them in the city.

As for your assumption that I don't own guns you would be wrong. I don't walk around with them in the city because I am not afraid of people.
The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or target shooting. This individual has a right and he's exercising that right. Don't like it? Change the Constitution.
 

james t kirk

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Obama has done more to sell firearms than any U.S. President in history. His efforts to bring in gun legislation drove the sale of AR15's to record highs and produced ammo shortages because of citizens stockpiling ammo. His efforts to get the ATF to ban the popular M855 5.56 ammo for the AR15 also drove record sales of 5.56.

Even the lowly Ruger 10-22 was impossible to get 2 years ago because Ruger had a 4 million gun order backlog. All because of Obama.

He'll go down in history as being responsible for making guns the new golf in America.
I don't recall Obama trying to bring in ANY kind of gun control legislation. Nada.

Maybe you could enlighten me and post a link to a reputable site where it lays out Obama's gun control agenda. Because right now, I don't recall him doing shit to control guns.
 

poorboy

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I don't recall Obama trying to bring in ANY kind of gun control legislation. Nada.

Maybe you could enlighten me and post a link to a reputable site where it lays out Obama's gun control agenda. Because right now, I don't recall him doing shit to control guns.
You must be living under a rock. One of the biggest controversies in the U.S. in the last 2 years. The NRA and even other members of Congress have been successful in stopping Obama's attempts. Some of his ideas are valid, but limiting the type and capacity of guns is killing him.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambr...n-control-laws-mean-for-32b-firearm-industry/

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/03/obama-announces-gun-control-actions/?_r=0

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ol-push-backfires-as-us-firearms-in/?page=all

http://www.westernjournalism.com/result-obamas-push-greater-gun-control-citizens-now-control-guns/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/05/obamas_last_gasp_effort_at_gun_control.html
 

jcpro

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Did not really make the papers here, but it sure added another shift at the arms manufacturing plants. Talk about unintended consequences. In the history of the good old US of A, there never was more and better armed populace. Thank you Mr. President.
 

wilbur

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Exactly. "Gun culture", the widespread ownership of guns, and open carry laws don't lead to anarchy and chaos, they merely lead to an increase in accidental deaths. A statistical blip. What's a few dead toddlers and suspicious-looking-but-innocent black teenagers compared to the right to be an asshole in an airport, after all?
Compared to the huge numbers of firearms in circulation in the US (over 300 million), accidental firearm deaths are relatively rare per capita.

 

nottyboi

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Sigh... You know you're old when someone on an adult themed board ain't getting the pop culture references you recognize instantly...

Its a pop culture character with the named after a weapon. The pop culture status does not invalidate my statement.
 

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A penis reference on the first page. Let's see how long it takes before we can get a bingo.
Guess you were deaf to the BINGO the news-item is about, when Open-Carry got as ridiculous as many predicted.

The guy says that big semi-auto with the honkin' 100 round mag makes him feel 'safe' in the airport.

If you don't think that relates to his feelings of male inadequacy without it, I'll settle for calling him a dickhead on the basis of inadequate reasoning powers.
 
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TeeJay

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Gun rights advocates keep screaming guns are not the problem
One needs only look at Japan or Australia to see the positive benefits of banning firearms
 

Carling

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Gun rights advocates keep screaming guns are not the problem
One needs only look at Japan or Australia to see the positive benefits of banning firearms
its too late..everyone has a gun....let them have em... can't wait till the shoot outs over the last bottle of milk happen at your local grocery store..oh and if you're not white, all these paranoid gun toting freaks will have itchy trigger fingers.. i'll never go to a NRA supported /Open Carry state , ever.
 

poorboy

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Gun rights advocates keep screaming guns are not the problem
One needs only look at Japan or Australia to see the positive benefits of banning firearms

You're spreading misinformation. Statistics from 1996 to 2012 for Australia.

Armed robberies in Australia were up 69%
Assaults with guns, up 28%
Gun murders up 19%
Home invasions up 21%

As I stated earlier, criminals don't follow the law.

Japan never had a firearms culture. Its history was established with the blade, not the gun.

http://www.military.com/video/guns/small-arms/australias-gun-ban-not-working-so-well/1775480805001/

If you believe that video is biased, look at this Chicago Tribune article.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...130118_1_gun-control-mandatory-gun-gun-deaths

Wall Street Journal

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466

Both New York and Chicago have strict gun control.
 
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red

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The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or target shooting. This individual has a right and he's exercising that right. Don't like it? Change the Constitution.
Well I don't live in the us anymore so I won't spend anytime trying to change it. However I will express my views on the subject using my right of free speech as limited only by Fred and his staff
 
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